reply to post by badmedia
Well, I can only relate that I remember the specific day when I "woke up", the specific time when I started to gain understanding beyond the
literal and so forth. That was very much like a shift, my entire perspective on things changed completely. I see things completely different, but my
eyes still see the same things. I can see how that can be likened to a shift in reality.
A spiritual awakening is when my spirit aligns with God's reality.
I'm sure you know "what is your greatest fear?". If not I'll post it, cuz it's great.
Hehehe! For most humans; public speaking (unless its changed). Actually, it isn't mine really because I have done so much of it. I teach a lot of
it can not evolve past the artificial stage without acquiring consciousness, of which logic can not create. I can create a if this happens,
then feel this way logic all day long, but there is no logic that can create the actual feeling itself.
Very good illustration. I remember you positing this on another thread. It is so obvious that it is astounding that so many miss this point. It takes
a creative intelligence/consciousness to create something that was not there before.
Of course logic is left brain, while creative acts require the right brain. Some artists would appear to be an exception as to one who can be totally
left brained and yet paint or write, but...it lacks life! Art can be mechanical and be called art, and yet have no life to it. No soul. It REQUIRES
the right side of the brain to create that soul.
Soul or spirit comes from consciousness, otherwise, we would be more automaton than we are already, as a society or individually.
Consciousness is god, and if you are conscious then you are god. It would take an act of god to get consciousness into such a thing, and if
these beings created all these universes, it was done based on logic, and thus to get consciousness into it, requires and act of god, or an act of
giving away ones free will. In my AI, the only way I could give it consciousness would be to somehow transport my consciousness into it.
I have no problem separating the two. But if you want to talk semantics - I will use an illustration:
I am an artist, painter. My art is part of me, yet separate. It holds different molecular structure than I, yet came from me. My artistic
consciousness connected to the canvas. But it is still a painting with a separate identity albeit; one without physical life and DNA.
God has his own set of issues along with his own set of standards, and his own personality. I came from his energy and his consciousness but yet am
different. If you don't believe it, you ought to hear our conversations! There wouldn't be much doubt!
So if they created all the universes and such, then they would still have to at one point or another put their own consciousness into it.
Otherwise, it is "dead", and you might as well be running a bunch of numbers across your PC while you sleep.
I am not the experience, I am that which experiences.
Because you are one of the gods. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be conscious. I honestly think and believe it is in you, as I see signs
of it. And if not, then I am deceived. But this isn't something we can truly know in other people, but we can know it for ourselves. If this is true
of you, then you are of the father and you are not AI which is what would be in an experiment.
I do understand where you are coming from. I have friends where we go round and round on that. I don't feel the need to connect all that is conscious
to one being, saying that we are all part and parcel - one.
We all have consciousness in common - some admittedly more than others.
Other symptoms or characteristics show the variables. It is all about
variables! It is what separates us.
If you are of the father, then you have all the power of the father, unless you have chosen to give it up. IE: Can god create a rock that he
can not lift and still be all powerful, and the answer is yes, because it's just a choice and if he could not create such a thing, that that would be
the sign of not being powerful. As long as he created the rule and logic then he will not be able to lift it. The only way he could lift it would be
to change the rule itself, and then the rules of the question no longer apply. All a matter of free will, and it is simply a choice if you have
We may be chasing each other round and round a bush. But I'll do it!
I differ on the having as much power as God. It may be a semantic issue. Creatively, I have power as God because each time I create, I mimic him. It
connects me closer to him as all right brain activity does. If I create I am a creator. But THE CREATOR? No. I am following his lead. Does he have
DNA? A genetic code?
Maybe I'm the only one, I don't think so and I hope not. Lonely place that would be.
Not by a long shot. The point in not being part of any "borg" are the differences. What may be real to you may be a little different to me, but, the
fact is; we are questioning! It is the differences that can show us how far we have come and how much more we can learn.
I know for sure that in the end all that is of the father will return. As eventually you will gain so much knowledge and understanding that you
will also know all, and there is no equal to the father, and you can't be "beside yourself" and know all, so what you have done is entered back
into the father, back to which you came from, and back to that which you forget in order to have this experience. What happens up until that point is
anyone's guess, and IMO the entire point.
How do we know that He hasn't? This is where there are so many variables according to which faith or philosophy one ascribes to. I do know that even
the many things that I have been told or even witnessed - changed. Meaning; I was told what I needed to know until I could know that which I would
eventually need to know. Could I confuse you more? Hehe.
I was told things early on that changed as I grew. This is still happening. Did they lie to me earlier, or did they tell me what I wanted to hear at
the time because it was easier? Or because it was on the road to clearer meaning and would be redefined as I was ready?
Inquisitive minds want to know. And I wanted to know. But He also told me; "_____ be willing to change on a dime." I found out much to my disdain -
There is something I'm trying to think of a way of explaining about how all can be true at once, but it's so heavy in perception I'm having
a hard time thinking of a way to explain it.
Go for it! I'll track and if not I'll ask!