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Originally posted by consciencious observer
reply to post by nenothtu
hey chu guy why not use your abilities to help prevent the worst from happening instead of just preparing for it. dont you think this will be far more productive for all
NOTE: i say this not only to this guy but to all that give a d@mn
Originally posted by whaaa
What I fear about this "discontent" is that it will eventually be directed at people of color and become racially motivated: Especially with the current feeling against "illegals". Paranoia strikes deep, into your lives it will creep.
The cities will burn and the infrastructure will crumble in the ensuing "race riots"
Is this what you want? Because this will not be a return to freedom unless you consider anarchy and chaos freedom.
Originally posted by malcr
Let's play the numbers game here. If it is true that there is a substantial proportion of the population who is disillusioned with the current system then surely you can vote to change it. I'll refer to this group as the Tea Party (why not?). So if the Tea Party is a minority what gives them the right to dictate to the majority. The answer is none. No minority has the right to overrule a majority. Irrespective of which side you are on ...tough. However if the Tea Party is a majority then it must have at least 51% of the voters in support. So a rough guess (not knowing the demographics of the US population) would be around 100 million voters. If each voter donated $10 to the tea Party they would have a 1Billion dollar chest to fight elections. That is more than enough to run a campaign. However, you don't really need anywhere near that amount since 51% would vote for the tea Party candidiate even there was no publicity whatsoever.
So the numbers don't add up. A majority wanting change can implement change democratically with a minimal amount of money. I'm not sure what it costs to post a candidate but whatever it is add it up for just over half of the state votes (remember you only need to post candidates in the most likely areas to return a presidential majority!!). Can a US person do the math and work out how much it would actually cost per Tea Party supporter?
Once that is done then stop moaning and organise a democratic change. You have 4 years which should be plenty of time.
This reminds me of many new populaist parties in UK politics. They have all withered and died since there is a huge difference between a vocal noisy minority and voting majority.
Originally posted by Question
To those that keep saying "this isn't the 1700's the army is better armed" yadda yadda. Firstly, you forget your history, Britain was indeed better armed and better supplied than the colonists. They did NOT play on an "even" field and if you think so, you've deluded yourself. Many colonists had to scrap and scrounge as much as they could for weapons were as the british already had powerful fleets of ships, more cannons, ammo etc. Not to mention that they also had to fight against other colonists as well (the green jackets, a.k.a the loyalists to the british crown) The colonists didn't have this privilege of better well supplied armament, yet they still sent the king's men packing out of sheer will and desire for a better life.
Originally posted by reluctantpawn
reply to post by alphabetaone
Couple that with guerrilla tactics, home field advantage, supply chain disruption, chain of command, support of the people, inability to use weapons of mass destruction[due to collateral damage], troop failure due to desertion, and a myriad other tactical advantages that the people would have, and you have bad odds for the government. They know this, and it is why they must remove firearms for the populace from the equation.
Why can't they find Bin Laden? Why can't the stop the Iraqi insurgents? Why aren't we doing anything in Afghanistan? These people are poorly educated, poorly funded, and poorly fed, not to mention few in number. Until TPTB can defeat them they cannot defeat the citizens of the USA. [no disrespect intended to our boys and girls over there now, they are doing what they can with what they've got.]
Originally posted by Sheeper
It's people like this that give me faith that we have any hope of remaining a free nation. Thank You.
Btw is it just me or is SouthernGuardian the most annoying, self rightous tool that ever existed in the history of humanity? Probably pretty close.
[edit on 4-5-2009 by Sheeper]
Originally posted by reluctantpawn
reply to post by expat2368
Yep, and they may find a few nasty surprises waiting for them. Most here are aware that they are on the "list"