Israel destruction in 14 days?????

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posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Seany

Im actually quite surprised by the blatant pro-israel camp here

Most of the US hatred in the middle east is a result of the US support for Israel

Israel had made no friends , and a lot of enemies for the US


Where is the Middle Eastern Hatred for the US? Egypt? Jordan? Qatar? Those who hate Israel love to make this claim but it is severely overblown.

Our actions in Iraq? Now that has been a source of hatred towards us...




posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:40 PM
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I strongly doubt there will be any nuclear exchange. If Iran were to use the bomb, they would irradiate Islamic holy sites in Israel. Besides, everyone knows that the method for poorer countries is biological or chemical warfare. My guess is something like a suicide bomber, but with diseases. All they would have to do is stroll through the streets of Israel a week ago or now, and in 11 days the effects would be seen, too late to react.

Any semitic country around Israel that plans to use force again would be stupid, in my opinion. Why charge the fortified gate, when the gate is open to you on the unfortified side?



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by Night Watchman
Correction, those who blame Israel first in all cases and fail to speak up when they are the target of aggression are anti-semetic. Are you that? I can't say...perhaps when ran attacks you will denounce it as wrong...then we can say that are most certainly not that..


And if Israel attacks first?

Btw, I'm not the topic. I don't play those silly political games.

If Israel attacks first, then I would condemn that action.

Your non answer is actually quite revealing. I would doubt we would ever see the day when your type would ever condemn an attack on Israel...



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by Seany

Im actually quite surprised by the blatant pro-israel camp here

Most of the US hatred in the middle east is a result of the US support for Israel

Israel had made no friends , and a lot of enemies for the US

Probably because some of them are paid to post



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by munkey66


Israel had made no friends , and a lot of enemies for the US

Probably because some of them are paid to post


Just as there are clearly those here who are paid by anti-semitic organizations to post. Of that I am certain.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Night Watchman
Your non answer is actually quite revealing. I would doubt we would ever see the day when your type would ever condemn an attack on Israel...


"My type". You infer too much my friend. Good to know, I can deny this. It's the site's motto.

Blind faith is a shallow thing. Only made worse because the blinders can be taken off if one chooses. :shk:



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid


Blind faith is a shallow thing. Only made worse because the blinders can be taken off if one chooses. :shk:


Absolutely and perhaps, one day you shall follow that advice.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:51 PM
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Discuss the Topic Please

Consider this fair warning, and to help you get back on track here is the OP:


Originally posted by mrmonsoon
A news group in Germany has said that the Iranian chief of staff said Israel destruction within 14 days.

I have a link to the untranslated news article.
N-TV

I don't know this source or how trust worthy it is or is not.

I "DO" know if it is posted here, it will be proven true or false by the untold resources available by the people here at ATS.


Just a minor possibility, isn't the pope supposed to be in town Israel) at that time????

Anyways, many have threatened, several have tried, but none could do it.

[edit on 5/3/2009 by mrmonsoon]


Please continue with the discussion.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:52 PM
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The very history of Israel has been one of being attacked by different coalitions. I mean, that's just plain secular history.

The US didn't help Israel in 1948-49, 1956, or 1967. We had sold them a tiny bit of weaponry by 1973, but I'm ashamed to say, probably to get a measure against some of the better Soviet equipment. Recall that the Soviet Union was training and arming those Arab states who aligned against Israel.

It's personal for me, and by personal, I suppose more visceral. My greatest respect goes to those who have courage, intuition, determination, and intelligence. I absolutely admire courage. to see a small state time and again defeat much more powerful, vastly more numerous enemies is a portrait of courage.

I do not equate supporting a nation who has been attacked since inception, with supporting those Islamic guerillas who specifically target civilian women and children in markets, shopping areas, buses, and the like, dressed as civilians.

These are acts of cowards. And most Americans see such acts as acts of cowards.

Therefore, that's pretty much how I differentiate, and at least the folks I talk to, mostly hold the same convictions.

Don't know if they're right or wrong.

I just know that a man or a nation is known not only by his friends, but is better defined by his enemies.

And the hate speech coming from Iran, combined with their support of murderers, kind of defines a group.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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Although i tend to stay away from topics like these as it almost ends up with some form of aggression rather than reverting into history as history is what we have that judges us.


I swear, I do not understand those who think the US blindly supports Israel.

Iran, though proxies, has attacked the US for over two decades, using Hizballah, and every other radical Islamic group they can fund. Our embassies were attacked, our soldiers were attacked in Lebanon and the Khobar Towers.


To begin with, the U.S's former enemy who was named Saddam Hussein was an allie of the U.S. who his military was fully funded and backed on every level to fight and over throw Iran and was later executed by his own former allies and you can take that info to the bank an bank on it. Please take the time to read the links : A) en.wikipedia.org... , B) en.wikipedia.org... ,.




Does anyone else remember any of this?

So no, Iran is not just the enemy of Israel. Iran is the enemy of the US.

The pantywaist we have in the White House will likely be our next war President.

Because the thing about international bullies, is that they see a pantywaist, force a fight, and then when our backs are to the wall here in the US, we finally fight.


Take the time to read the link, this is were it all begun. en.wikipedia.org...



Right after tasting the blood in our own mouth.

Israel isn't going to rely on the US.

They'll do what needs to be done, and if we're smart, we'll help them survive the ordeal.

Because we don't have the guts to do for ourselves.

Oh you would be surprised at how much the Israel regime rely's on U.S. intervention on all fronts. A)en.wikipedia.org...


In closing i have given you the basic links due to that fact that it is evident you have no understanding of what exactly is happening on a global scale.
I do not care what brand you place upon myself as those who know me know exactly on who's side i am, that being said, you should take the time and apply the effort to open history books, you will be surprised at the plethora of information that is out there.
On a side note as this information might be slightly over your head without sounding or intending on being hostile, but you should research into " Why and How were Hammas and Hezbolah created and from Who."

Peace.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:56 PM
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We are not talking about history, we're talking about now. And Israel IS backed by the US.

You say that these people attack women and children. They don't, they attack Israelis with ineffectual weapons. Does Israel not do the same? Much more effectively I might add.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:56 PM
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What do you think the palesnians live in? A GHETTO.

It's fenced in, they can't get aid or supplies without Israel saying yes.

Need I say more.

The differences between what the jewish people went through and what palestinians are being subjected to now are very slim.

~Keeper



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by HulaAnglers
Well this is all being played out, the dots have been connected - I started a thread a couple of days ago on Russia/China

and found this video that explains how it will be played out,

(click to open player in new window)





here in Canada the police have been practicing taking away of belongings and homes, cars, land of anyone suspicious of a crime.

My friend's trial is only in a year or so, he must repair all damage the cops made while ''searching'', and maintain the goverment's new assets! Just like nazi times they will take over and kick us out or kill us or use us as their servants.


Can I please have your attention! what I am bringing here is important info !!!



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

We are not talking about history, we're talking about now. And Israel IS backed by the US.



Israel does not have the luxury of ignoring history and focusing only on "now." Iran has, in the past, threatened to extinguish the state of Israel and now they have repeated that threat only this time it comes with a ticking time bomb in the form of a deadline.

Iran is the aggressor here in this case, if the story is accurate.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 08:01 PM
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If you want to get really technical, we supported Iran previously, and made Iran the most powerful nation in the ME.

To this day, they still have lots of American planes and equipment, including F-14's.

Just because I do not give a complete renditions of the history of the intricacies of who supported who at what time, does not means any of us here on the thread don't understand history.

You may be surprised to learn that some of us actually lived it.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 08:07 PM
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reply to post by intrepid
 

Touche!

Yes, suicide bombers attack unsuspecting civilians, who are less aware and most certainly armed less.

And Israel counterattacks with superior weaponry.

You are correct in that perspective.

"Pale Ebenezer thought it wrong to fight,
But Roaring Bill who killed him, though it right."
-Hillaire Belloc

Yes, the US supports Israel now, and we actually have an exchange of technology.

The first practical, modern UAV's came from Israel, and once they showed a visiting American General in a photo taken from the UAV, complete with crosshairs, our own technology took off from that day on.

Russia is buying scores of UAV's.

From Israel.

Gotta admit. These are a brilliant people.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 08:08 PM
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I really hope this is not true. If it is, prepare for hell on earth... Israel is backed by the US. Iran is backed by Russia and China... Oh my god. It's too horrible for me to contemplate. *sigh* guess there is no point in worrying...

I wish these politcians would chill out and smoke some herb... Brownies anyone?



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 08:10 PM
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Warmongering against Iran in Israel media is just huge today!

Livni: On Iran, there's no opposition




On Iran, Livni lamented that "unfortunately, even today, Israel must fight for its existence. Still today, we face those that spread a culture of hate; that seek to destroy and not to build. We face those that dare deny the Holocaust and that publicly call - and plan - for Israel's destruction."

Alluding to the recent appearance of Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a UN conference on racism in Geneva, Livni said "these are voices of evil that are still, shamefully, given a platform in an organization created after World War 2 under banner of 'never again'."

www.jpost.com...

Oren: Israel won't allow nuclear Iran


www.jpost.com...



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 08:12 PM
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That would be much simpler but you forget the symbol of fire referenced so much out of Iran and allusions to physical destruction. Could though be misdirection.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by Night Watchman

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by Night Watchman
Good to see Janus isn't afraid to show his anti semetic leanings.


And what do you base this on?


his body of work here. He is as anti-israel as one can be. You can look it up yourself


I dislike all sides. This was engineered to occur. Give land to Jews after WW2 in the middle of a place where people don't like them too much. Then spend time building up and then putting two trains on the same track facing each other. So predictable. The world banks and others want this to occur, and it is the 3rd world war that will finally take our freedoms (those who survive), and will be an excuse to wipe out those who oppose the NWO. I found too much evidence for this, that this is all going to plan.





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