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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 06:02 AM by Britguy
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Originally posted by Night Watchman
Now back to your jew hating.
Aha! Now I see where you are coming from. Thanks for making your position clear.
You have yet to post any evidence, from credible sources, to back up your claims that this was all a misunderstanding, an accident that resulted in
friendly fire etc.
Attacking others and calling names only shows your ignorance and inability to back up any position you have with anything substantial. In fact, isn't
that an Israeli trait? 
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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 06:09 AM by Night Watchman
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Originally posted by Britguy
You have yet to post any evidence, from credible sources, to back up your claims that this was all a misunderstanding, an accident that resulted in
friendly fire etc.
The Liberty Incident:
The 1967 Attack on the U.S. Navy Spy Ship
by A. Jay Cristol
As if you would ever read it...but there it is.
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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 06:23 AM by Britguy
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I don't think the publishers would pass muster as being unbiased:
www6.miami.edu...
I am more inclined to believe the testimonies of the people on board the ship and on land based listening posts. Especially so since there has long
been evidence that logs were falsified after the event and that the board of inquiry was directed to give a predetermined explanation.
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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 06:28 AM by Solomons
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Your going to need more than simply snide comments like jew hater to backup your claims...the propaganda of calling anyone who questions israel
anti-semitic or a jew hater stopped working a long time ago. 
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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 06:49 AM by Night Watchman
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Originally posted by Britguy
I don't think the publishers would pass muster as being unbiased:
www6.miami.edu...
I am more inclined to believe the testimonies of the people on board the ship and on land based listening posts. Especially so since there has long
been evidence that logs were falsified after the event and that the board of inquiry was directed to give a predetermined explanation.
Way to deny ignorance. I would think someone as unbiased as you would want to actually investigate the book personally before dismissing it out of
hand. It is a meticulously researched and annotated book.
I am not saying it represents the truth because I have no way of knowing that.
You have exposed yourself as one who has little interest in information that does not support your conclusion.
Not at all surprising.
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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 06:52 AM by Night Watchman
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Originally posted by Solomons
reply to post by Night Watchman
Your going to need more than simply snide comments like jew hater to backup your claims...the propaganda of calling anyone who questions israel
anti-semitic or a jew hater stopped working a long time ago.
I have but you will either ignore it or dismiss it.
The bottom line is that anyone who attempts to present conspiracy theory as fact is either a liar or is ignorant of the facts. You are all free to
beleive what you want but this silly display of self righteousness when you are called on it is laughable.
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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 07:26 AM by Seany
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Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by Seany
You got the story all wrong there was no attempt to get into life boats the ship sailed into harbor under its own steam. There was no us aircraft
carriers in the area either the 6th fleet was still on its way arrived the next day to help liberty limp into port total injuries were 27 death the
whole and 33 injuries. The planes were observers and not attack air craft had no offensive capabilities. Finally the damage was caused by 3 torpedo
boats firing 5 torpedos one of which managed to contact the ship.
The captain admits in his log that his gunner fired on the patrol boats even before the torpedo was launched. The incident its self is friendly fire.
The only thing is how isreal made the mistake in the first place it was stated that the liberty was taken off the tactical board because they lost its
position then a ship popped up and they thought it was hostile. Can happen that why they call it friendly fire. The only conspiracy is whoever pulled
the ship off the board needed to be tried and this was never discovered.
There was also mistakes made by the US they didnt realize how close this ship got to egypt and the order was given to leave the area but it was too
late. And there is no way this ship could tell if they were killing people and putting them in mass graves.The ship monitored radio frequencies hoping
to ease drop on Egyptian pilots. Israeli communications were all ready being monitored from Israel without the ship we had listening posts in isreal.
Sorry my friend , but I think it is YOU who has made some mistakes. The boat did stay afloat, The title came from the Doc. The boat was rendered
useless after this attack. The ship was 14 miles off of Egypt's coast. She was attacked by 3 jets from 1403 to 1410 , rockets , napalm then strafing
with 30 cal bullets. There WERE 34 dead , 170 wounded. The Iraeli's claimed it was the Egyptian vessel EL Qusier 2,640 tonne ,275 feet length while
the Liberty was a 10,000 tonne 459 feet , like comparing a moped to a pick-up truck. www.heretical.com... very informative
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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 03:23 PM by Orwells Ghost
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Could those who are saying it was a simple case of mistaken identity please explain to me why the Israeli's were flying around in unmarked jets? What
about answering the radio?
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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 06:05 PM by searching4truth
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I am right there with you, however sadly, my b.a. is a double major in Political Science and History, tragically amusing I know. Fortunately, I did
have one teacher my senior year of college that encouraged us and told us some of the truth or at least the perspective from the "losers" of
history, and greatly helped us in exploring information from sources other than the msm. It troubles me that many many students may not have that
"one" professor in all of their education. I firmly believe that there is a lot to be said for self education, often times you will discover or
learn things that would never be taught in a traditional class room, things that are an invaluable lesson as part of history.
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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 06:16 PM by searching4truth
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definately not a case of mistaken identity, how can one or in this case a group, track and watch the ship for at least 9, count them 9 hours, missing
the clearly visible U.S. Flag flying freely atop the ship, hear yet not respond to numerous communications, and it was a mistake? There was no
mistake it was delibrate.
This claim demonstrates it was as much as 24 hours of tracking.
In a presentation given at Harvard University on March 13, 2003, Assistant Secretary for Defense John Stenbit, claimed that the Israelis had warned
the United States to move the USS Liberty or they would sink it within 24 hours. The Liberty was not warned because it took more than 24 hours for the
information to go through official channels.Stenbit, John (2003), "A Conversation with the Assistant Secretary of Defense for C3I John P. Stenbit"
(PDF), Seminar on Intelligence, Command, and Control., Harvard University, p. 4, www.pirp.harvard.edu...
He was Secretary of Defense from 1973 to 1977
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reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 10:17 AM by Seany
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Originally posted by searching4truth
reply to post by Zosynspiracy
I am right there with you, however sadly, my b.a. is a double major in Political Science and History, tragically amusing I know. Fortunately, I did
have one teacher my senior year of college that encouraged us and told us some of the truth or at least the perspective from the "losers" of
history, and greatly helped us in exploring information from sources other than the msm. It troubles me that many many students may not have that
"one" professor in all of their education. I firmly believe that there is a lot to be said for self education, often times you will discover or
learn things that would never be taught in a traditional class room, things that are an invaluable lesson as part of history.
i have left a link , a different one
to back up the facts as are the truth
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reply posted on 5-5-2009 @ 10:32 AM by searching4truth
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this link? www.heretical.com? thanks
edit: still haven't mastered how to only quote part of the post instead of the whole thing
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