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Originally posted by earlywatcher
while i don't quite buy into the ankle bracelet containment theory, it still seems pretty creepy. they have our addresses, what do they need gps coordinates for?
does anybody out there have other ideas about how this info will be used?
Originally posted by Bombeni
reply to post by PennKen2009
I know a couple of people who are working the Census, and they tell me if a form is not turned in that regular Census workers, working in pairs or more, will go to the houses and knock on the doors, with at least two attempts made, to make a face-to-face interview. Neither one I talked to today have heard of Marshalls being called in. That may be the last straw they use for households that refuse to be documented.
Originally posted by jtma508
reply to post by earlywatcher
If you all want to get your panties in a bunch let me see if I can't help you out. ALL of your financial information is already attached to your home (and your business for that matter) by the financial institutions with which you do business. Not the Census. They already know all the demographic information anyone would ever want to know about you and in FAR greater detail. Who has access to that information? Who knows?
Commercial products are sold under MicroVision and a number of other companies. It includes your income over the last several years, where you work, your education, your credit score, etc.
Local law enforcement/public safety has all your location information and, yes, your GPS coordinates, name, anyone else in the house, the vehicles, where you work, etc.
So, if paranoia is your 'thing'...
Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn
So why are they canvassing for information that they already have?
The 2010 census is projected to cost $36.43 per capita, with much of the cost going to the gadgetry that the bureau is using to make the second nationwide count of the 21st century a pencil-free affair. The total estimated price tag: $11.5 billion.
Here's the ticket to a high-tech tally: It may look very similar to other PDAs on the market, but this is Harris Corp.'s handheld computer, manufactured specifically for the 2010 census. It boasts a touch screen, 10-hour battery life and, even more impressive, fingerprint authentication and Global Positioning System technology "capable of sub 3 meter accuracy."
The Census Bureau needs to test the handheld devices this spring to ensure that the equipment works and that the program does not fall behind schedule. But details of what the technology will do are still being worked out, and that has led in part to the higher costs, according to auditors with the Government Accountability Office and a study done by Mitre, a government research group. Census officials decided, for example, that they needed to make sure the handheld devices could send information securely, a feature that added to the cost, a GAO auditor said.
Mitre said the program "lacks a leader with the experience, stature and passion to make FDCA successful. The Census Bureau has a lack of personnel with large-scale IT program management experience."
A $600 million program to buy handheld devices and create an automated network to collect data for the 2010 Census faces major cost overruns and could cause delays in preparing for the nationwide head count.
But the program, called Field Data Collection Automation (FDCA), has already gone $50 million over its original costs in the past two years, government auditors said. Congressional leaders said officials at the Census Bureau have warned that if they have to revert to pen and paper, it could add at least $1 billion to the $12 billion effort to conduct the 2010 Census.
Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez was scheduled to tell a House subcommittee Thursday that the government will scrap plans to use handheld computers to collect information from the millions of Americans who don't return census forms mailed out by the government. The decision is part of a package of changes that will add as much as $3 billion to the cost of the constitutionally mandated count, pushing the overall cost to more than $14 billion.
The computers proved too complex for some temporary workers who tried to use them in a test last year in North Carolina. Also, the computers were not initially programmed to transmit the large amounts of data necessary.
This was to be the first truly high-tech count in the nation's history. The Census Bureau has awarded a contract to purchase 500,000 of the computers, at a cost of more than $600 million. The devices, which look like high-tech cell phones, will still be used to verify every residential street address in the country, using global positioning system software.
It's not the first snafu for the Census Bureau. It recently announced it also wanted to skip the process of fingerprinting and checking the backgrounds and criminal histories of its enumerators.
Now, let's think about that for a moment. The Census Bureau will hire some 600,000 temp workers for the 2010 Census. All will handle sensitive data. And most of these temps will travel in neighborhoods, going door-to-door, asking questions and taking down the most sensitive personal information possible. They will be invited willingly into peoples' homes with official US Government ID badges, sitting on the sofa or at families' kitchen tables, asking questions about family income, numbers of family members and their ages and gender, and other sensitive issues. Some enumerators will probably be given "long form" questionnaires that delve into even greater detail. And the Bureau wants to waive fingerprinting and background checks?
Originally posted by adrenochrome
what's that specific "project" that they have that has all those telescopes aiming down and watching us from orbit? they can even see how much change i'm holding in my hand...