Since this IS a conspiracy website, and I haven't really seen anyone pose this as a possibility I thought I would throw it out here.

It is known the many theories that this is an engeenierd virus. It has all these parts from swine, avian and human flu. Some reports say it even has some insect parts to help it attach to different things (insects? I'm not even sure) helping it to spread.

But despite the reported serious illness and deaths reported in Mexico, which now seems to be reduced or maybe even attributed to a completely different strain of flu virus. (One that was included in this flu seasons vaccination.) There is only one reported death in the US. Which itself is suspect because the child falls into the normal age range of suspected mortality and also had preexisting health issues.

So far, everyone infected in the US has only gotten a mild case of the flu.

The Conspiracy

What if it was engeenierd? But it is not working as intended, or it is not a finished product. Or it was released too early, for whatever reason. And instead of killing people, it is only making them kinda sick.

So why such a strong reaction from WHO and CDC? Why all the fear mongering? Why all the extraordinary precautions to prevent the spread of a flu that is no worse, even less worse, than the ordinary flu we have every season that kills 30,000 to 40,000 a year?

We all know what happens when you get the flu, or a cold for that matter. You become immune to it. Just like with chickenpox and measles, and all the stuff we get vaccinations for.

What if they don't want us to get this strain because we will build up an immunity to it!!

Honestly, conspiracy or not, I am beginning to think that I WANT to get infected with this H1N1 whatever it is flu, while it is mild and from the sounds of it not as bad as a regular flu.

That way, if it does mutate into something worse (or something worse is released) I will have at least a partial immunity to it!

Originally posted by toepick
That way, if it does mutate into something worse (or something worse is released) I will have at least a partial immunity to it!

That's interesting - but I don't think you can really have a partial immunity to it... Your either immune or not (I'm no expert BTW). I would say as soon as it starts mutating away as it will then your just as vunerable as everyone else... And you could be even more vulnerable if your immune system is still trying to get back on it's feet.

Also if you do dose your self up then you will be helping to infect people close to you - would you want that responsibility?

It's not necessarily the mutation you should worry about, the virus can possibly come back resistant to effective treatments, and also it can come back in a second wave likely in the fall, far more resilient... Stronger, perhaps much more virulent and lethal.

If you get it now and survive, when or IF such a possible second wave comes then you would already have immunity to it.

[edit on 3-5-2009 by Walkswithfish]

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
If you get it now, and have immunity when or IF such a possible second wave comes then you would already have immunity to it.

I think that was my overall point, whether its a mutation or whatever...getting it now while its nothing might be the better option.

And I would rather build a NATURAL immunity to something, than let them inject some kind of who knows what into my arm..that they rushed to make.

That is interesting and all except there ARE people getting more than just "kind of sick" people have died from it.

Not nearly as much as how many have died from regular flu last year (36,000) but people have died from it, so I don't think this is something you want to go out and get on purpose.....

Yes people have died from it, and we should remember that people die by the thousands every year from known influenza strains, or common flu.

I would in NO way suggest that anyone go out and intentionally expose themselves to this virus.

You all should know better.

I'm glad you brought this up. I was actually thinking that I would rather get it now before it mutates and perhaps have a slight chance of being immune to the mutated strain, or that I could then be able to have weaker symptoms of the mutated strain.

It's not something I haven't thought about. I'd also rather get it now while there is still Tamiflu and Relenza lying around.

I had just mentioned to my husband that same question. Seems if we in the USA catch this latest one going around, yes it's a pain, but it's not devastating and/or fatal to Americans (yet). If it mutates into something horrific, I do believe for those who already have had a mild version of it - their bodies' "cell mediated immunity" would actually bcome into play. Basically, they would not have the exact antibodies against a mutated version, but their cell-mediated immunity (non antibody-type immunity, but is VERY effective against viruses) would be trained to recognize this "swine" influenza derivative and any mutations and be able to fight it moreso than if they hadn't already had a previous flavor of it. So in a strange kind of way, getting a little touch of this latest "swine" derivative might actually not be a horrific thing. Like the old saying... What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger!

I just made a thread about this and got it shut down since this one was first.

But I live in NYC and know a teacher from st francis prep he said all the students infected where fine 48 hours later and most after only 24hrs.

My thinking was the same, because with the 1918 flu it went around first and was not a big deal but once it made its way around the world and came back thats when it was highly lethal. So perhaps it would be wise to purposely infect oneself now and build up not so much an immunity but to get the body used to or familiar with this type of virus. So when it most likely comes back in the fall or winter much more lethal those previously infected are in better shape to handle the new virus.

SO anyone in the NY area up for a swine fl party? I am very serious about that by the way.