Amazingly clear UFO vid from Moscow

reply to post by 0nce 0nce


Hi-you can ask Chadwickus that-as he seems to think I am associated with ALL NEWS WEB. Actually I have tried on numerous occasions to embed the youtube vids on this site an it always failed-why don't you embed it now into a post.

reply to post by stewartw2


Well, you can't blame him for thinking that especially when your last two topics are based around links to that web site. Oh well I guess...

This is the link directly to the video, which is usually what people do when they don't know how to embed videos....

www.youtube.com...

Now here it is embedded.



Here is a tutorial:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Amazingly fake ..
i don't understand --

If it's fake, it's a pretty decent one.
I noticed that when the camera's focus adjusts past the building, the ufo comes into focus, so the "focus timing" is in sync, which is one thing that supports it being real. Also, the lighting on the object seems to be correct based on the building and the sun's location in the sky.

However, things that contradict this are: why are there so few people looking at this thing? From what I could tell there was no one else around.

Another thing (though I'm not sure about this) is it possible for that guy's reaction to be so quick?

hmm... I call shenanigans

Originally posted by projectvxn
I will file this one in the back of my head until an independent professional analysis can be done on the footage. Until then I will reserve any judgment. Too many of these have turned out to be hoaxes, and there are people out there who set out to create hoaxes. Most of them, as far as I'm concerned, share much of the same characteristics as this video.

But as I said, I will wait for independent confirmation by professional videographers, and digital forensics specialists. As it is the prudent thing to do before investing effort of belief in something such as this.

That is most certainly a very wise decision at this point in time. I am not capable of making an accurate analysis of this footage. For that reason, it would be wise to wait for an unbiased independent proffesional analysis can be done.

Fake, looks like CGI.

Proving aliens via image or video is moot, if it's good enough to prove it, it must be fake, and if it's low quality, it's low quality and hence unreliable.

A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

But yeah, in this instance I think the object was too blurry compared to the rest of the video.

[edit on 3-5-2009 by AR154]

I have sat and watched this video over and over for about an hour now, i have grabbed screenshots, zoomed in, zoomed out, made a several coffees and have came to this conclusion, IF this is original recorded footage, then its not CGI, if it is, then the creator has put far too much time into getting it right with the camera movement and all. There is the point that it does not re-appear on the other side of the building, but, if it is real, we dont know what technology alien life has, it could be moving "faster than light" before it re-emerges, when someting is travelling faster than sound you see it before hear it etc etc.

I'm not convinced this is real, im not convinced that we have ever been visited by beings from other places, im pretty sure that life exists on other planets, even if it is just single celled organisms, but whatever my opinion, this video is pretty intriguing.

[edit on 3/5/09 by woogleuk]

i dont understand why this thread has gone so far i see absolutley no evidence that this is authentic it looks like rubbish to me. Im a believer and to see stuff like this really irritates me. I dont believe that it helps anyone and the more you try to doop the nay-sayers the harder it would be to convince them of the truth. Absolutely nothing about the video appears real. . . . . . imo HOAX

reply to post by Varrin7


I think we need do move back to a model where the credibility of the witness becomes the key deciding factor-or circumstance where the film is corroborated by a large number of other witnesses or a credible news crew etc.

reply to post by woogleuk


two points to discredit this video are not right

a-The craft does come out the other side (this has been proven by another poster)

b-there were other witnesses-One can be seen in the video itself.

...not saying that makes it real (perhaps the hoaxer covered these points)

reply to post by stewartw2



I got that too when i ran it frame by frame, but thats it, it doesn't follow on after those few frames, i'm putting it down to encoding, on the other hand it may solidify what i was saying about our non-understanding of alien technology.

I'm not a de-bunker, i would love all this to be true, it may give mankind a kick up the bum and sort a lot of problems out, i'm not saying this video is fake, im just giving my opinion.

This is a very good video. I seen something like this posted on you tube a few years ago back, not this video but the craft did the same exact maneuver from a stand still.

Does anyone remember a show on NBC or ABC in the early 1990’s. Where one of these networks did a full hour show on UFO’s. Well there was also craft like the one posted here on that show, also did the same flight path from a standstill, again not this video but a complete different one.

Also in that same show someone filmed a craft was very low to the ground . like 10 feet or something like that, but none the less very low. In that video/ film you could see beings\aliens silhouettes in a large window doing something , not sure what though. It was creepy, and not faked. That show was a News show segment with Dan rather I believe. He looked kind rattled after seeing the video\ film. He also stated that it was authentic and the studio verified it was not a fake.

Does anyone know where that video is ? I have not seen it since, not even on you tube. I tried searching for this on different meta-search engines and still no luck. If you want some real stuff, see that video, It cannot be debunked. I seen this while I was in the Military in some country don’t know which one at the time. But it was creepy. It was the best proof I ever seen to date. that show was broadcast on a military channel overseas. ( Not the military channel as in the History channel. ) but a pentagon approved TV network for the military. I wonder if that show was broadcast here in the USA ?

Staged and Fake...

-Person Filming perfectly standing "away" from the Mall, alone.

-Blurry image, in contrast to the distance. To keep the true fake object from being fully observed.

-UFO stays just long enough to be "filmed" then flies away just in time to get a perfect 1 minute video, the perfect size to post online...

-Cameraman turns the camera down towards the ground, obviously not interested or intrigued by apparently filming a U F O... If it where real the Cameraman would more than likely start running around the Mall to see if there is more UFO footage, not just "ho hum" put the camera down.
I would start panning the sky 360 degrees...

So stupid...

reply to post by Brainiac


Also I'm experienced in Video Editing, I have experience with various high end 3D and Video Editing programs. Such as 3D Studio, Maya, Lightwave, Cinema 4D, TrueSpace, Bryce 5, Ulead Media Studio Pro, Adobe After Effects, any of which are capable of producing these same results...

reply to post by projectvxn


So in other words, you're going too reserve your opinion until someone tells you whether what you are thinking is right or wrong?



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Thanks OP for the link, the problem with these videos really is how they seem to be choreographed and it is this minute detail that leads them to fail.

The fact that the camera zooms out (as has been mentioned already) just before the craft zooms away, hints towards an organized setup.

Much like the WTC UFO (the footage that was taken from a helicopter) where the craft zooms off in the typical fashion (in the blink of an eye), yet the camera operator keeps it in the center of the frame.

Little things make a big difference sometimes.

Fox.

reply to post by stewartw2


Sorry, but the UFO cannot be out of focus, it is impossible.

AFAIK it's faked and feeels CGI/bad motion tracking to me....

Basically, the focal have to be set to infinity to get mostly of what is in the field of view. Unless the guy who filmed had access to only very weird lenses and cameras.

[edit on 3-5-2009 by gagol]

reply to post by gagol


I disagree, but after watching it some more i do have this thought, the footage we are watching is someone filming a TV or monitor playing the footage we are watching, that would make a CGI clip more believeable, and before someone jumps down the refresh rate / Hz scenario, that doesn't work in this day and age.

I often see people asking why didn't others see the object too?

Simple answer, most people never look up. True.

In fact, most people are looking at the ground or at shops when in the city. To get attention onto something else it usually has to be pointed out first.

Also, maybe the video was taken on a Sunday when the streets and shopping centres around the world are not usually open, etc.

I find it amusing that people say with these things,"it should have done this or that", when we do not know how these things should behave.