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posted on May, 2 2009 @ 08:00 PM
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Are there men behind the scenes pulling the strings? Yes. They've always existed. They always will.

What good does this do any of us spending countless hours gathering information that just seems to spin us around in circles? We're not going to stand up to these men, until we start taking care of our self. That doesn't come from spending time on conspiracy sites.

I've done a lot of introspection through the years. I battled mental illness up until...well I may still be a little ill. Thing is, I've come to realize a LOT of these conspiracies are just projections.

We see evil in the world, because we refuse to accept it in our selves. To judge another, is to unconsciously deny a part of your self.

Alex Jones is either:

A. Parnoid Schizophrenic who believes his lies
B. A sociopathic con-artist who is greedy, and fueled by his fearmongering

All of these guys professing to know the answers don't know squat. The new age gurus are wanna-be spiritualists. The religous absolutists are power-hungry sadists. It's just insane!

A year ago I was listening to Coast to Coast & Alex Jones daily. I WAS INSANE!! I thought the NWO would bring martial law any day now. Any day now.....it never happened!

Shortly after I stopped listening to AJ, the insanity started to quiten. Admitidly, I have a biochemical imbalance that I've been treating with Orthomolecular Therapy, but the other part of my recovery was accepting that the evil was inside of me.

I projected my evil. Thought that most everyone else was evil, an arsehole, or just plain dumb. I was the asshole. I was dumb. I was a bit evil.

I'm just coming out and saying it like I see it. I may get flamed for this, but I don't really care. It's not that I'm leaving ATS, but I'm definately going to be picking my topics carefully and spend less time on here overall.

I just think it's better to tend to ones self, before trying to save the world.

I don't remember who, but some wise man once said, "People don't see the world as it is, they see it as they are". Just remember people. We are the world. It's up to us all to create our reality and choose how we perceive and experience this world...how we experience our self.



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posted on May, 2 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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Your post makes a lot of sense. It's easy to get depressed and yes, some people go 'over the edge' and become too paranoid. You see it every day on these boards, especially about the 'martial law coming any day now.' Well put, and I'm happy you are getting better.



posted on May, 2 2009 @ 08:24 PM
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I am very happy you are regaining yourself throughout all this my friend.

Please take care of yourself. If letting go of your will to talk about these things and debate wether or they are true will help you, by all means you most definetly should.

I do see how your post makes alot of sense, as humans we do project our own realities. However there are some dots that connect in odd places.

Our goal as conspiracy theorists isn't to fear monger or attempt to make other people paranoid, it's a quest for truth in things that never should have been covered up in the first place.

~Keeper



posted on May, 2 2009 @ 08:35 PM
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I appreciate both kind replies.

tothetenthpower:

I agree. The goal of a conspirator is the quest for truth. It's what I was originally looking for. I just used the wrong sources and got mixed up a bit.

In searching for the truth, I ended up isolating myself. Nobody that I know is interested in these types of things. That prolonged isolation, coupled with Jonesian Ideology, really pushed me over the edge.

I'ts not that I don't think conspiracies are worth looking into. They are actually one of the most important studies a man can do, IMO. I just know now that it takes a very stable mindset to take on such a journey.

I was thought to be gifted at one point, but I admit, I don't (at least now) have what it takes to keep my sanity while probing into these matters. Perhaps in a year or so once I've reached ground level, but right now I'm still crawling out of the depths of hell.

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posted on May, 2 2009 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by unityemissions
"People don't see the world as it is, they see it as they are".


How does one see the world when they are in a concentration camp? It's happened, Martial Law is not a conspiracy or make believe. Just because you can't see the storm coming, doesn't mean it's not there..... Pretending like it's not there won't make it go away....

I'm glad you are in a good place mentally but there is a rational way to deal with this information and still be healthy.



posted on May, 2 2009 @ 09:16 PM
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Ok. I understand entirely and sympathize with your frustration. The key is to stay out of the circle. And here's what I mean by that:

When you go swimming in a public pool you see signs all over that are meant for your safety, without interfering with your recreation. You are entirely responsible for either heeding or ignoring the guidelines written, after all, the consequences are entirely dealt with by you.

One of the most initially confusing warning signs at a public swimming pool is "Don't drink the Water". Not because you don't have the capacity to understand that it isn't good for you, but because it is such a reasonable thing that even idiots would avoid it.....And yet....


Some of the smartest people on Earth fall for this mental conundrum in it's various forms in nearly all aspects of life. Some have a good capacity for identifying and avoiding the natural lures of becoming a Lemming, some will never even know, or have an inclination to know, just how screwed by their own "logic" they have turned out to be.

Judging by your post, you are an aware person, but you can't let water enter your mouth.

Warning:

WHILE RESEARCHING ANY CONSPIRACY, DON'T DRINK THE WATER. (Replace water with kool-aid for you kids these days). Take in as much information as you can, and see how current events unfold. Go to the news and government websites that have a news section from ALL OVER THE WORLD. If you need to see what Chinese media is spinning, then Google Chinese news sites...So forth and so on. Compare as much data from all over the world. So when things happen you begin to build a pretty comprehensive map. Then after a few years, read your own map. It is important to write this crap down somewhere, if you're serious about your research and don't want to feel like you're going in circles MAKE NOTES.

Don't believe anything.

But don't reject anything.

Be Patient.

Be quiet until you can prove your theories.

Don't change the premise or conditions of your theory until you have tested them.

Don't get discouraged because you disproved a theory or came up empty on a lead...Explore the empty space of your accumulated finding and you will always find what you're looking for.

And if it leads you to where you started, then where you started is more important and bears more attention than you originally gave it credit for.

Don't listen to other people, or "Follow" people..(i.e. Alex Jones, Celente, Schiff...Whatever). Follow yourself and what appears relevant to you investigation. Others can do nothing but side-track you with their opinions.

Don't give up.

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posted on May, 3 2009 @ 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Amelie

Originally posted by unityemissions
"People don't see the world as it is, they see it as they are".


How does one see the world when they are in a concentration camp? It's happened, Martial Law is not a conspiracy or make believe. Just because you can't see the storm coming, doesn't mean it's not there..... Pretending like it's not there won't make it go away....

I'm glad you are in a good place mentally but there is a rational way to deal with this information and still be healthy.


I can see the storm, but it's gradual. It's not going to happen over night. As far as I can see, there's only one form of government and that is communism. Capitalism, socialism & fascism are just public masks of what's really going on.

How does one see the world in a concentration camp? Well I think they're more appreciative of every second that they exist then most will ever know. I think it's important to realize were not YET there.

I'm not pretending anything. It's not going away, nor is it coming tomorrow. It, like everything else, is in flux. On the flip side, my being aware and concerned about what's going on, in all honesty, does very little to nothing at making this situation go away either.

The masses ARE sheep. The masses ARE asleep. We're not going to wake them, because we don't control them. They CHOOSE to sleep. There have always been the few who choose to see and the rest who silently conform. It's just the way we are.

I commend those who can keep it together while on their quest for truth. I will always be on this quest, but for now it's more about the truth of who I am. The truth of who I've been. The truth of who I am to become.

I can say this much. I'm not giving in. I'm not giving away my freedoms, and if the time comes to take a stand with my fellow brothers, I will do so to my utmost ability....It's just not time. From the standpoint of our rights being taken away, it's way past time. But in truth, the time is when the majority decide to stand alongside us conspirators. That day is still a ways off...

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posted on May, 3 2009 @ 01:52 AM
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The brains on this site just blow me away some times!

You brought up many good points. It's late, but I'll be sure to reread this in the morning.

Thanks for your thoughts.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 02:10 AM
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I just wanted to point out (at noone in particular) that typing CONSPIRACY into google then parroting the info at the top of your lungs is not research.

Said my peace

CT



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 02:15 AM
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Of course not Conspiracy Theorist. But google is a tool that can help you find your reference points. Like if you didn't know the web address of the People's Bank of China or something you could find out with a simple query.

Maybe next time you'll try to be helpful instead of snide?



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 02:18 AM
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What an interesting thread! Good questions and great answers. I applaud much of it. Preserving your sanity or maybe regrowing it is of utmost importance.

Unfortunately you picked a rotten time to do it. What used to sound like paranoia is pretty much happening openly right now in the US. I look at sane, practical, well-meaning people who aren't looking for conspiracy at all, who assume people are who they say they are and mean what they say but apparently they can't see scary actions in progress. Many of them are getting sick. not swine flu. just dis-ease. colds that never go away, chronic insomnia, back pain, etc. things that should get better, don't. i think a little bit is from carrying around so much denial.

I really like the advice Don't Drink the Water. Unfortunately I can't think of one like that. We seem to be moving into bizarro world. To pretend that things aren't bizarre is to deny what's happening. But we all need to watch and listen and think but somehow not get entangled.

Your own observation about how we make the world we perceive is true to a point. I've noticed that I find really wonderful and interesting people wherever I go. I know there are some really awful people out thee. the porn kings and money launderers and murderers and rapists and gangs and wannabes of all those things, but I don't have any contact with them. Luck? I'd like to think that I'm traveling in a different circle. But that doesn't mean the creeps aren't there and that they can't hurt us. You can be minding your own business in your ship on the ocean not bothering anybody and get captured by pirates. That really happens. So we need to try for a balance. Pay attention but not so much that it becomes an obsession. Not so much that your heart grows weary.

Even though this is a conspiracy site, I hear a lot of encouragement offered by posters, to each other. It's surprisingly non-negative place. People have ideas, they offer hope. Sure there are some very negative posts, but always rebutted by someone who offers another perspective. Haven't you noticed that? The very fact that people come here to talk about things, when we don't even know each other, but we can have these discussions. It's quite wonderful.

I was thinking today how nice it is to hear birdsong. Listen to birds in between the investigations.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 02:21 AM
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Maybe next time you will read my post properly and realise that I wasnt being snide. Merely putting my opinion forward.

Yes google can help you find the web address for some chinese bank, but then what?

Research means getting your hands dirty.

CT



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 02:23 AM
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I did read it. And this is text so it comes off a bit down-nose if you know what I mean. Research is gathering useful information. You go to the Chinese bank and read their reports, crunch their data, so forth and so on, that's what you do. Research is more reading than anything else.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 03:14 AM
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I read it and you are both right. If you are going to dive in and form an opinion on these subjects, you MUST be willing to dig deeper and not view only what’s on the surface. Look at ALL the evidence and judge it for yourself. Don’t rely on someone else’s interpretation. Check the sources of the info and weigh it against all available sources. In the end you must take all the possibilities and weigh them against the probabilities. Only then can you truly make an informed decision. Just because something is possible, doesn’t mean it’s probable. All of these theories have slivers of truth here and there. The trick is to sort fact from opinion. And some things you can do nothing about.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by earlywatcher
What an interesting thread! Good questions and great answers. I applaud much of it. Preserving your sanity or maybe regrowing it is of utmost importance.

Unfortunately you picked a rotten time to do it. What used to sound like paranoia is pretty much happening openly right now in the US. I look at sane, practical, well-meaning people who aren't looking for conspiracy at all, who assume people are who they say they are and mean what they say but apparently they can't see scary actions in progress. Many of them are getting sick. not swine flu. just dis-ease. colds that never go away, chronic insomnia, back pain, etc. things that should get better, don't. i think a little bit is from carrying around so much denial.


Actually, I find it to be the perfect time. This seems to be the calm before the storm. What's going on right now, at least from my view, isn't nearly as immense as what was happening 6 months ago. Maybe I'm just becoming immune to the utter insanity of what's going down.

I agree with your understanding of dis ease. It's a burden on one's soul, not seeing (accepting) what is all around. All levels are interconnected, so this effects the emotional, psychological, and physical dimensions as well. I do think that most people are unwell, but I don't think there's been a time or place where this wasn't so.



I was thinking today how nice it is to hear birdsong. Listen to birds in between the investigations.


Birds of a feather, flock together!

It's been about 4 years now, that I watch the birds with an immense curiosity. I can't help but follow their sways and swirls. It's just so very entertaining, enlightening, and earth-shattering to discover such enjoyment! The sounds are second to my viewing, but I enjoy the melody of nature as well. Some times I hear the birds calling to be heard. Their voices combine into a symphony, and for a good part in that day, I'm left with ever flowing harmony balancing the vex of my psyche.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 04:10 AM
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Who needs sleep, when their's ATS.




Originally posted by projectvxn
And if it leads you to where you started, then where you started is more important and bears more attention than you originally gave it credit for.


This is exactly where I'm at. My search for the evil outside, led me to the evil inside.

This is more important right now.

Balance is key.

I'll probably be back in full force, and hopefully with greater awareness, after I regain the center.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 04:13 AM
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You are not alone. At least... you weren't.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 05:29 AM
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Maybe the key is balance, rather than walking away from it all. Every now and then I take breaks from ATS and my researches as I find I reach "saturation" point and need some breathing space from all the shocking discoveries you naturally stumble across. Recently I took a whole month or so off but came back recently, just in good time really with this swine flu issue and also around the same time as someone else on here returned from a break and this person has been a key lead in my other researches . Synchronicity !

So just take your foot off the pedal now and then so as not to overload the brain. It's pretty dark stuff to be absorbing alot of the time , it needs to be balanced with other stuff or naturally it can have this oppressive /depressive effect on the mind.



posted on May, 3 2009 @ 05:52 AM
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So true, on all fronts. This will most likely happen. I'm too curious, and realize this isn't going away, so I'll most likely be back after a break.

Maybe I should change the title now...I think the more appropriate way of saying what I mean, is that I'm doing away with the....less researchable, more 'out there' types of conspiracies. You know, the ones that don't even ring an intuitive bell.

I'm convinced that my search for evil in the world was an unconscious yearning to see it in myself. To accept it, learn from it, and transcend it. I think, against my intuitions, I searched for nonsensical connections to fit my jaded view of the world. That was definitely not healthy.

I'm not going to mention what I find to be bunk now, because it would likely impact those who believe in these to a negative extent. It's just funny how one day, someone can be so deep in the layers, and the next....it just shows itself as what it really is. An illusion!

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posted on May, 3 2009 @ 07:11 AM
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I agree in a large part with you, op. But i think we all come here for our own reasons, and thats life, we are all looking for answers. But the trouble is that conspiricies happen, and like with this swine flu rubbish, people can send people all over the place just looking for answers, and e are easily controlled this way.

Thats why i think they got rid of William Cooper, he trid to stabalise people in these situations, and although he knew there are plenty of conspiricies out there, he understood that the public are played each way.

I think we all here can take a lesson from william cooper or even ron paul, who trys to step back, and see things with some rationale. You cannot let the hysteria grip you or you can easily run with it, as all people want to be led.



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