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reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 01:13 AM by sticky
Even if the world broke out in total anarchy, sure it would be messy for some time, but even anarchy would finally reach an equilibrium point.

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I once called up Michael Medved's radio show a really long time ago, when a guy by the name of John Zerzan was being interviewed.
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He asked me what my "ideal" society was. I answered, "communism, with god as the government".

He hung up on me, then began to go off on a tangent about communism. It was a good feeling.

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reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 01:20 AM by TheAssociate
I think Anarcho-Capitalism is a better idea. Its the best of both worlds, really. There is no government regulations telling you how, when and with whom to do your business and nobody has the right to take your property or money from you (i.e. taxes, etc.). Just my $0.02


TA


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 01:27 AM by sticky
Originally posted by TheAssociate
I think
Anarcho-Capitalism is a better idea. Its the best of both worlds, really. There is no government regulations telling you how, when and with whom to do your business and nobody has the right to take your property or money from you (i.e. taxes, etc.). Just my $0.02


TA


I was quite young then (18) and a total rebel. I do agree that anarcho-capitalism idea is much better, people can't be completely unaccountable for their actions.

We all have this idea when we go to a government building for some kind of service, if they had competition for those civil services, those places would be so out of business quick.

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reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 08:03 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by whatukno



Hahaha, that would be a despot of itself wouldn't it?



I really like the idea of anarchy. It just gets a bad rap from the media but it actually isn't that bad of an idea.


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 08:35 PM by Frankidealist35
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That's the label that the mainstream media gives anarchy. But in reality-- anarchy is a peaceful world... and it would be one where we wouldn't need government. You should look up stuff about what anarchists say about the idea of anarchists... you've been lied to about the very meaning of the term.


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 08:40 PM by stumason
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Whilst the current crop of Anarchists believe what you say, for everyone of them there will be 1000 others who will happily use strength to get what they want.

As I said, humanity started out as anarchic, but once Tribe A realises that Tribe B is weaker, then it is merely a matter of time before they take their resources off them, by force if necessary. Then you have the begining of a Government. Tribe A is now even stronger than before and will look to other Tribes for further conquest. Other Tribes will band together to protect themselves from Tribe A, forming even more Government.

Human history is evidence that Anarchy would not work. It is self defeating.

The only way anarchy could survive would be if EVERYONE believed in it, but that is an impossibility.


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 08:43 PM by dooper
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Frank, I don't much give a damn about definitions, or opinions of definitions of others.

I'm telling you that in the absence of government, whatever government that may be, it's a disaster. It's bloody, it's fearful, and you never know if you'll have the luxury of the next breath.

Every sound is a threat. Every movement must be calculated. In a complete state of anarchy, you don't sleep. You get a series of brief, fitful naps. No real rest, and you can't afford to relax.

Your family? Everyone present is a problem. More mouths to feed, more to conceal, more to protect.

You will be sought out and killed just because you exist. No one trusts anyone else in the neighborhood. You and yours may be killed because you just may have something they don't.

And dead is for a long time.

Not to say that on occasion a society doesn't need a good enema or to hit the reset button.

But it's hell on earth when you do.


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 08:46 PM by Frankidealist35
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I understand your objections but governments have just gotten out of control. I'm not talking about a society without any organization what so ever. It's just that this government isn't representative of us. I advocate for an anarchist direct democracy kind of society. We should decide for ourselves what happens. There has to be some system of deciding things, but, government is proving to be more and more ineffective as time goes on and our government is proving itself just to be based on theory and nothing more, and, other governments aren't much better.


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 08:55 PM by dooper
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No one more than me believes that the biggest self-delusional power-hungry idiots are those now running things in Washington, DC.

But, we the People, put them there. They all got elected.

If someone is suggesting a national state of anarchy would be superior, then that's a mistake.

Tens of thousands would die every single day. The numbers would be staggering. Ever see fifty people in person who died a violent death? Ever smell the stench of mass deaths with your own nose?

Ever see bodies by the dozen left lying around because no one can afford to expose themselves to bury them?

Ever see what the lawless without any morals whatsoever can do to weaker people? Children and women?

Our current political situation may suck like a black hole, but anarchy is worse.
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