Originally posted by Razimus
Good post, seems more plausible than the garbage being spewed out by the history channel, I'm no conspiracy theorist but the history channel seems to promote UFO explanations in clumps, for example, one month they will be pushing that UFOs are all NAZI, and they are hidden in South America, another month they will be claiming UFOs are stealth blimps, another month they will be pushing one sighting and trying to connect the NAZI bell with it, it's either coincidence in reruns, or they have an agenda, either way they sell a lot of ad space to gullible viewers, that is if they believe any of their concocted rubbish.

Sadly Razimus,

Anti-psychotic medication in the United States is too expensive for a poor boy from Mobile, Alabama. I have never spent 13 years in a mental hospital Walter. You tweeted it... I am just sharing it. Care to share with us what it was like?

I always use my real name Walter because I stand by what I say and I don't speak nonsense.

Some people unfortunately use ATS as therapy

I hope you will put all your Bell-related material together one day and publish it sy! The story about the railway wagons for instance is something I have not heard before.

Do you think it is possible anyone is operating these machines today, not obviously the same ones but something built using the principle - even in an experimental fashion?

One thing that does leave me rather cold is the business with the name 'xerium 525'. Would this just be some sort of code? Usually if a German is coining a new word they seem to use a portmanteau structure. I think 'xerium 525' is just something that has been non-authentically attached to the substance as a word that sounds vaguely scientific, like some sort of isotope.

Originally posted by 8311-XHT
I just discovered the key to the Nazi bell...

When Thomas Townsend Brown discovered electrogravitics he determined the key is capacitors... this was how he first noticed the antigravity effect - in the capacitor effect of coolidge x-ray tubes.

Is there any evidence OTHER than supposed writings of Brown that this physics is real?

People have been working with high voltages for about 120 years now, and many of them are pretty well scientifically trained.

Nobody in the MIT radiation lab ever saw this? Nobody at a communications company? Nobody at GE? Siemens? Fundamental physics can't be kept secret.

There are a couple major reasons why these effects are so difficult to detect.

1. We live in a sea of atmosphere. This is a HUGE reason why this phenomenon is so difficult to see in our environment. If we were creatures that didn't live in an atmosphere - but a vacuum like the moon for example.. antigravity would have been a no-brainer. It's our atmosphere that leaks charge and negates the antigravity effect. This is why the B-2 is coated with a material that is used to make capacitors. Capacitors separate charge in our atmosphere.

Tornadoes are probably the only natural phenomenon that shows antigravity effects believe it or not.. and those are hidden in the destruction. Google Dr. Judy Woods site called "Where did the Towers go" and she has a section on hurricanes tornadoes and gravity field effects. Earth electrical storms are huge capacitors storing charges.

2. All our equipment for making electricity is very heavy and crude. If there is some weight reduction effect in electrical equipment we likely wouldn't notice it and again the atmosphere hides these as well.

3. These effects are non-linear. What this means is that you don't see minor effects building up... so let's say you have a gyroscope and it is building up antigravity effects.. you wouldn't notice it at first. Then you pass a certain thershhold and all of a sudden the effects hit in a big way. Again, believe it or not but this seems to be what happened in the Philadelphia experiment. They were using this technology for something like radar invisibility and had probably tested it on a small scale and it did one thing.. they tested it on a massive scale witha ship and there were all of these bizarre effects that went along with it.. like time warping and possibly people being fused into metal etc. You see the same thing with the Hutchinson effect. His experiments are totally unpredictable.

4. from my understanding of reading TTBrown's documented work you need very specific voltages and high power electrical equipment.. and again.. the effects aren't going to be huge unless you have the proper materials and rig set up. This was TTBrowns speciallty I think ,,, experimental science. Also.. it would be very easy for people to explain these effects away in experiments as magnetic or ion wind effects.. which is what has been used to discredit this work. That also gets back to the reasons posted above - atmsphere etc.


What really proves this is real though is that both TTBrown and Viktor Schauberger completely validate each other.. and they did it completely independently . IF you really really study both of these guys you will see that. There were eye witness accounts after the war from German soldiers that saw Schauberger's craft operate.

The Foo Fighters were aslo documented by allied pilots that saw them over Germany. These were the first craft built off of Schaubergers ideas.

But see.. Schauberger was way ahead of his time.. he used NATURAL phenomenon to tap into these effects. TTBrown did it more in our conventional scientific approach. Brown's method was more reliable than Schuabergers but more clunky. Schauberger's is less reliable but when it works it's far for more elegant efficient and effective. But TTBrown didn't have many resources when he was developing this himself. The Nazis had brilliant and desperate scientists who took Schaubergers genius and distilled it into their conventional science.

Tesla also appears to have discovered this, but his work is hidden, he just mentioned he could make electric aircraft. The US government appears to have taken his work before he wanted to reveal it or he was working w/ the US government willingly.

As for how this could be kept secret I was like you... I didn't believe that was possible either, but the reality is a massive massive disinfo campaign and control of our entire education system, Once you accept that this is real and really look at our society you will see how that is done and it is really terrifying.

Here is one example of how this stuff is kept secret.

Do you know that when Bob lazar came public it was later the same year that Pons and Fleschmann made their discovery of cold fusion? Did you know that Bob lazars best buddy is John lear who posted on this very site about aliens constantly? John lear's Dad founded Lear Jet and was heavily promoting that antigravity tech was coming in the 50. This was before it went classified.

Did you know that Pons and Flesichmann went to the department of energy and told them of their discovery and the DOE leaked this info and a professor who likely had government/military ties tried to take credit for their work which forced them to come out publicly with it before they were ready? IF they hadn't they would have lost the patent rights.

Then when they did go public MIT ran a smear campaign about Pons and Fleischmann. There was a journalist at MIT at that time that saw this all happen and reported it. He's dead now

Another nazi secret,hhmm.....