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Originally posted by The Killah29
Try these reasons if your not convinced.
Originally posted by jon1
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
See, this is how it should be. We can have a civil discussion based on what we both believe in and reach a conclusion that we both agree on...
Country music is BORING!!!!
I'll drink to that
The world exists for the sake of one person. In order for that person to come into existence and at the right place, history had to be directed to follow a certain path. God chose to have a specific line of descent for that person to be born of. The problem comes about by God also choosing a specific place. Noah had three sons and among them were Shem and Canaan. Canaan settled the area known as the land with the same name. Shem, who was chosen to be the "firstborn" to carry on the linage of the "chosen one" went off to a place that became "Shinar". After a certain amount of time passed, the descendant of Shem was to travel to and live in Canaan. Eventually, the numbers of that line became too great for the land to hold both tribes. A conflict ensued and wars were fought and kingdoms overthrown and a new dynasty established. The land was still the same name and the people were mostly unchanged, genetically. There still was the "line" and a person was born of the line and in the land, and God's plan worked out as intended.
Sometimes the Old Testament and the New Testament when read word for word is very conflicting, confusing and cruel.
"You find as you look around the world that every single bit of progress in humane feeling, every improvement in the criminal law, every step toward the diminution of war, every step toward better treatment of the colored races, or every mitigation of slavery, every moral progress that there has been in the world, has been consistently opposed by the organized churches of the world. I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world".
"The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion.”
"The so-called Christian nations are the most enlightened and progressive...but in spite of their religion, not because of it. The Church has opposed every innovation and discovery from the day of Galileo down to our own time, when the use of anesthetic in childbirth was regarded as a sin because it avoided the biblical curse pronounced against Eve. And every step in astronomy and geology ever taken has been opposed by bigotry and superstition. The Greeks surpassed us in artistic culture and in architecture five hundred years before Christian religion was born."
"When the churches literally ruled society, the human drama encompassed: (a) slavery; ( b ) the cruel subjection of women;( c )the most savage forms of legal punishment; (d) the absurd belief that kings ruled by divine right; (e) the daily imposition of physical abuse; (f) cold heartlessness for the sufferings of the poor; as well as (g) assorted pogroms ('ethnic cleansing' wars) between rival religions, capital punishment for literally hundreds of offenses, and countless other daily imposed moral outrages. . . . It was the free-thinking, challenging work by people of conscience, who almost invariably had to defy the religious and political status quo of their times, that brought us out of such darkness."