Dem. Congresswoman Admits Obama’s Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Insurance, page 1/
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reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 07:30 PM by Hypntick
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Does your job provide insurance? If not, I would seriously consider switching jobs.

If so, what kind of prices are they looking to charge? Honestly if you can't afford around $30 a paycheck for health insurance, then you really need to consider a second job or find a way to cut costs elsewhere. Maybe your internet or cell phone?


reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 07:42 PM by ImzadiDax
Originally posted by Hypntick
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post by ImzadiDax



Does your job provide insurance? If not, I would seriously consider switching jobs.

If so, what kind of prices are they looking to charge? Honestly if you can't afford around $30 a paycheck for health insurance, then you really need to consider a second job or find a way to cut costs elsewhere. Maybe your internet or cell phone?


I am one of the 'laid-off' types. COBRA is waaaay to expensive. I have decided to go back to school tho. I have no cell and my internet is really all I have right now. Sooo... *shrug*



reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 09:24 PM by jdub297
Originally posted by KaginD
What people seem to forget is how these health insurance companies prey on their customers.
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If there is a procedure that could save someones life, who are they to say no, the person don't deserve the funding for it?


Unfortunately, Obama's plan will focus on RATIONING over everything else, NOT your health and comfort.

He's given an interview to the NYT Magazine, to be published Sunday, in which he discusses his grandmother's need for surgery while suffering from terminal cancer:
...I actually think that the tougher issue around medical care — it’s a related one — is what you do around things like end-of-life care …

… sort of in the aggregate, society making those decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill is a sustainable model, is a very difficult question. If somebody told me that my grandmother couldn’t have a hip replacement and she had to lie there in misery in the waning days of her life — that would be pretty upsetting.

… So that’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that’s also a huge driver of cost, right?

I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here.

... you have to have some independent group that can give you guidance.
(emphasis added)
www.nytimes.com...

So there you have it! BHO wants your health dictated by demographics, economics and "independent groups" for guidance as to what's best for you.

Deny ignorance!

jw


[edit on 1-5-2009 by jdub297]


reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 09:40 PM by KaginD
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I'm not saying that Obama has the end all solution, I know better then depending on a politician to fix anything. I'm just thinking we need something different then what we have now. Ugh, its truly exhausting at this point isn't it? All of the things we have to read into because they are trying to scam us in some sort of way... Thanks for posting that info Jdub.



reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 10:26 PM by secretagent woooman
reply to post by ImzadiDax


Exactly. An insurance policy I bought years ago at a job went from about $40 a month to $98 and was going to double last year when I was laid off. The policy I have now is about $225 a month, bottom of the barrel coverage with a $5000 deductible. Not great!


reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 10:31 PM by justsomeboreddude
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The problem is not the premium you pay. The problem is how much the insurance company has to pay every time someone needs healthcare. Like if you pay 300/mnth and you stay overnight in a hospital and it costs 3000 for your care for that day then that is 10 months premiums down the drain.


reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 10:50 PM by PlausibleDeniability


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 11:12 AM by Keyhole
Private health insurance companies are always going to be trying to make a profit, otherwise they would go out of business.

The real problem is the soaring price of health care itself!

Here's a link where you can compare prices for hospital stays for different procedures (or reasons) from different hospitals.

Consumer Health Ratings

And here's a search I did on the site for a hospital in Florida to perform an appendectomy on a person between 18 and 64 years old.

Category: Surgery Condition/Procedure: Appendectomy Age Group: Adult, Ages 18 - 64 Time Period: July 2007 through June 2008

The results stated that the average stay at the hospital was 2.6 days, and the hospital charges (for the stay and all other charges) ranged from $13,547 to $69,990!

There's something very wrong with a system that allows this sort of price gouging!

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