Yeah My friend recevied warning email from friend in 2 days ago. They are from EL Paso,TX

First confirmed case of swine flu... First confirmed case of swine flu @ thomason hospital so be careful with people with colds!! Forward!

No media or TV news mention anything about it. ?

I noticed in somewhere in ATS forum. other mention someone died in the Corpus Christi,TX. that person look to foward to watch news TV or media about it. but nothing at all.

in Mexico .. sure strange stuff nobody report to youtube.com from mexico. maybe there are block internet due to prevent mass panic?

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I'm not a fan of math and suck at it but some numbers I have put together from reading different threads doesn't sound very good.

Most normal flu's have about a 10-20% chance of getting you sick when you come in contact with an infected person or area. This h1n1 variant sounds like it has about a minimum 50% of the people who come in contact with it get infected with it.

Eventually almost every person will probably come in contact with this based off the prediction maps of how a pandemic spreads when it has that high of a ratio of infection. I wish I could find this link again but hx3 borg dude posted it before I think.

If you take the small number of 2% death rate or the higher number of a 6% death rate like was reported above you start to see some scary numbers. That's like 18 Million deaths in the US with a 100% infection rate or 9 Million deaths at a 50% infection rate.

I would imagine that as the system becomes more taxed you would see the death rate percentage rise so you could see as much as 10% die off or 15-30 million people. combine that then with the other deaths that would happen because of the strains put on the health care system and its feasible to have almost 20% of the US population die off based on the numbers I have read in different threads( some would be normal deaths others would be preventable deaths that are left untreated because of lack of ability to utilize overcrowded hospitals like a hear attack).

They say that if 20% of a population were to die off you would probably see total anarchy until panic settles down.

If i get bored at work I will try and find more supporting links.


But hey don't worry to much. I'm sure I messed up on my number crunching or I read bad figures.

I live in Key Largo, Fl and this is freaking me out. Although not confirmed it makes me wonder.ORLANDO, Fla. -- Is the swine flu in Central Florida? An email obtained Tuesday by Eyewitness News from Florida Hospital's chief medical officer said it is (see the email), but then the hospital and the Orange County Health Department quickly backed down as soon as Eyewitness News started asking questions.

The doctor's email said the case is from a tourist from Mexico, the country at the center of the swine flu outbreak. The tourist came to Orlando with relatives to vacation at Disney World.

The newest information from the health department says several samples from Central Florida cases have been sent to the CDC. However, the Florida Department of Health told Eyewitness News early Tuesday evening no samples from anywhere in Florida have been sent to the CDC.

So far, there are no confirmed cases of swine flu in Central Florida.

Florida Hospital's Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Loran Hauck, sent the email and it didn't take long for word to get around. His email said there was a diagnosed case of swine flu.

Two hours after Eyewitness News broke the story on WFTV.com, Dr. Scott Brady, the medical director for Florida Hospital Centra Care, where the case in question and two other possible cases came in, called a press conference (watch press conference).

"Let me be very clear that that has not been confirmed at this point in time," Brady said Tuesday.

Dr. Brady tried to downplay Dr. Loran Hauck's email, which said "a case was diagnosed here in Orlando today on a tourist from Mexico who came to Disney attractions two days ago to visit, as referring merely to the flu and not the swine flu. But WFTV reporter Kathi Belich pressed him, because the question Dr. Hauck was answering was specifically about swine flu.

"This was a direct answer to a question about swine flu. Did your chief medical officer speak out of turn?" Belich asked Brady.

"I have not spoken to the CMO about that," Brady said.

"You haven't?" Belich asked.

"It's not confirmed," Brady said.

"You have not spoken to him about why he generated this email?" Belich asked.

"I don't know why he generated the email," Brady said.

Eyewitness News tried to speak to Dr. Hauck about why he sent the email, but the hospital denied it. Instead, Florida Hospital released a statement from him late Tuesday afternoon.

“I regret that an unofficial e-mail I sent to a friend has been taken out of context,” Hauck wrote in the press release. ”My intent was to comment on current influenza cases in Central Florida, but I regret my strong choice of words. I apologize for the concern this has caused.”

While Hauck's statement says he was really talking about "current influenza cases" and not swine flu, he only referred to one specific diagnosed case when Florida Hospital says it has had numerous cases of diagnosed influenza.

Dr. Brady told Eyewitness News a Mexican tourist who had been to Disney came into one of the clinics Sunday night with the flu. On Monday, they swabbed the tourist and said they sent the culture to the CDC. Florida Hospital says it sent two more cultures from Orlando to the CDC on Tuesday, but the the Florida Department of Health denies having sent any samples to the CDC.

Orange County Health Officer Dr. Kevin Sherin won't say exactly how many possible cases there are in the county. He's been asked by the health department not to do that, but says if there is a confirmed case he will get that information out right away.

Shortly after the hospital's press conference, the Florida's Health Department held their own (watch press conference).

"At this time we have no confirmed cases here in Florida," Florida Surgeon General Ana M. Viamonte Ros said during theTuesday afternoon press conference.

Viamonte Ros said several samples are being sent to state labs where, if they get a positive test, they are then forwarded to the CDC for confirmation.

"Several tests are being conducted at this time, but there are no confirmed cases at this time" Viamonte Ros said.



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these retractions, even in text form, (referring to the current topic and Biden) sound slightly coerced.

but only slightly.

At my younger sister's high school in Sugar Land, TX (That's 20 miles SW of Houston) There is one confirmed case of swine flu. They have not shut the school down.

They are having the SAT test at the school this weekend and I am sure sick kids will show up to take it.

My two Mexican military contacts have just updated me on the following;
All Northern commands are under full alert however, only 24 possible cases have been quarenteened and NO DEATHS!

First I will say that if you wanted to really start some serious depopulation starting with the most populated city on Earth which is Mexico City would be the place to start at.

Second the Mexican people really are the salt of the Earth. I lived in Los Angeles for a number of years and developed a great respect and admiration for them. So much so I even married a Mexican woman.

Having said that, and now saying this, that stereotyping can be a little dicey and assumptive; nonetheless the majority of Mexicans I have met are a highly superstitious lot. They like most of us do love to gossip and love to theorize, and for a whole host of reasons having to do with the now defunct PRI, Mexicans tend to be very suspicious of their governments and well, based on many of those governments I would say that is rightly so.

My ‘gut’ instinct tells me that while some ‘at risk’ people are dying, that this whole situation is being hyped through the main stream media to further slow down economic activity to create and give some more politically palpable effects as to why the bailouts are not really working, and won’t end up working. Well, ladies and gentlemen, citizens Mother Nature dealt us a bum hand on this one.

I believe the Government/Powers that Be likely did introduce the virus, it’s not Flu Season. It’s suspicious that it did originate from the planets most populated city.

Contrary to the Original Post though, CNN did do a piece on its website yesterday about Patient 0. Five-year-old Edgar Hernandez is alive and well and attributes his survival quite naturally to Ice Cream.

I don’t trust the Government but I don’t trust the Anti-Christ is here grab your Bible crowd either, who are often just desperate to validate their scriptures by making mountains out of mole hills at times to preach and seek converts as well. Some of the conspiracy proponents on ATS like those interested in 2012 are quick to make things “fit” their theories.

Here is the long and short of it though and I strongly exercise a lot of people to exercise more caution in these Swine Flu threads as this situation is truly a double edged sword.

If you increase alarm through false or poorly sourced stories that have a political or religious ax to grind certain that you are doing the right thing in ratcheting up people’s concern and alarm and all this is being played up by the Media and Governments to simply provide some rational explanation as to why the bailouts aren’t working, and the hysteria you help generate further slows the economy, well you are playing into the government’s hands and ultimately hurting yourself unless you are filthy rich.

If it is on the other hand a depopulation method to start weaning down our excessive numbers, it will become apparent all on it’s own as people we all know fall ill.

In the meantime this hysteria from my vantage is already slowing the economy and I can’t caution people strong enough that doing anything that is going to result in a decrease in economic activity is really not in your best interest. Let me die from a 72 hour death from the Flu rather than starvation please. I enjoy eating too much!

Thanks.

I am a former prosecutor. A couple of years ago when the north east was hit with that massive blackout, Mayor Bloomberg went on the tv and radio and said that the city was safe, calm, with no rioting or looting.

To back up these perpasturous claims, what the city did was to tell the the police officers responding to looting to charge the looters with trespassing and petit larceny rather than burglary.

The trick is that trespass and petit larceny are both misdemeanors while burglary is a felony. The FBI only keeps crime statistics of certain felonies in those crime rate stats you see on the news. By
classifying the looting as misdemeanors in the NYPD paperwork, the mayor was able to lie about all the
looting.

Once the cases got to us at the prosecutor's office, the where indicted for burglary. The problem is that the FBI statistics don't track the actual charges levied by the prosecutor which are the real charges and often are different from the police charges.

I am sure that the same thing is being done here where the doctors are being told to fudge patient charts. It is all about lying to the masses.

Originally posted by COL.Tapi
My two Mexican military contacts have just updated me on the following;
All Northern commands are under full alert however, only 24 possible cases have been quarenteened and NO DEATHS!

Could you please elaborate on this? Are you saying that there are only 24 possible cases in Mexico? And no deaths?

Two Mexican Military contacts?

Have read quite a bit about all of this. Don't know what to believe. I could believe the media and not worry.

Or Joe Biden and panic.

Or half the people here and hide in the mountains and wait for "Captain Tripps" (thank you Stephen King) to get us all.

Or the other half and finish my scotch and not worry.

What I DO know is that the government is very, very busy with getting medical equipment up to par. Lots of lab equipment, ventillators, suction units. I am a biomed. Thats what I do.

How do you prepare for something that no one, and I mean NO ONE tells you the truth about?

I have some in-laws that live in Mexico, they have told me that the entire country is shut down. One of my relatives is a professor and he cannot work because the university was closed down. I know that much is true and not a lie.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Contrary to the Original Post though, CNN did do a piece on its website yesterday about Patient 0. Five-year-old Edgar Hernandez is alive and well and attributes his survival quite naturally to Ice Cream.

Sounds like mainstream media "feel-good propaganda"..... Id like to see the tests that confirm this kid actually had the flu to begin with....

CNN is the censored news network afterall, however i do agree with your request for moderation and skepticism in regards to some of these rumors

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Theres 6.7 billion people in the world and how many people
have died from this flu?

15,000 to 30,000 citizens die from the Flu each year.

Looks like they want to shut down the economy!

I see fear and paranoia for the profits of the drug companies.

To those that think this is an engineered virus and just media hype.

What I don't understand is this logic:

Why if the NWO PTB crowd wanted more control and to depopulate the earth would they engineer a virus, release it, hype it - only to have it ineffective?

Why not just make it the "real deal" that kills 6% or more? They act like its the plague - but reports show it's not all bad. Are they under reporting it and if so why?

I don't know what to think really. I definitely don't trust the MSM reports, but I don't know if there many deaths unreported either.

Do they want it to spread by making us all respond with "oh its just media hype, nothing to it really" and then we go on spreading it not really worried about it. I don't know just some of my random thoughts.


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