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Joe Biden for President in '09

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posted on May, 1 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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I have to admit I'm warming up to this socialist agenda. Tax evaders running the banks and automobile manufacturers. Wait a minute, that's nothing new. Well there's the wind down of the war in Iraq. Soon all our people in the service will be coming ho.... well at least they'll get a change of scenery. I hear Pakistan is lovely in June. Then there's the middle class tax relief. Doh!!! Damn it, I made more than $5 this year. I'm no longer in the middle class. Well I’ll thank my lucky stars we're headed to a classless society anyway. It all makes sense, classless administration followed by classless society.

I do have my health though and I am thankful. You see I look to the experts for protection against those “superbugs” that plague the rest of the North American Union. Who better than “Joe, I take mass transit into Washington everyday, Biden”. Joe would know. And sure enough Joe said, “I would tell members of my family — and I have — I wouldn’t go anywhere in confined places now”. But what’s this? Despite the reasoning so evident in the VP’s statement, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs tells us that Mr. Biden does not mean what he says. Damn it all! I have such a hard time following, It must be my lack of a federally funded education.

Despite those minor setbacks I'm all on board for Hope and Change. And who better to deliver that to the nation than Joe Biden. Despite Pharaoh Akhenaten's penchant for frequently addressing the nation I think we would be better served by the stream of consciousness narrative that would be provided by President Joe Biden. One unending "fireside chat". Transparency? I'll say, the man is glass incarnate.

Oh dear! It just dawned on me that '09 is not an election year. How does Joe move to the head of the class? What to do?




posted on May, 1 2009 @ 02:00 PM
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Vice Presidents are not always the best people:

Dick Cheney (Darth Vader theme plays when he walks into a room.)

Walter Mondale (snore)

Spiro Agnew (resigned to avoid jail)

Dan Quayle (What are the Secret Service orders if GHWB dies? Shoot Quayle.)

Al Gore (How can you tell the difference between Al Gore and the Secret Service? He's the stiff one.)

This is the job that is there to make the President look good.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 02:33 PM
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Why on Earth would you be for socialism?

Socialism in practice never works out as it does in theory. It's just bigger government.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 02:39 PM
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Socialism does not work especially in places like Sweden and other European countries. Damn free health care, paid vacations, free education, paid maternity leave, etc...



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 02:44 PM
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Yeah, the thing is that they aren't exactly free because they all have to pay with their taxes for all of those services!!!



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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At least they see where their taxes go! I agree they have higher tax rates, but no one complains about it there. I think people here would not mind the higher taxes if they could get quality health care, college educations, pensions, clean streets, etc...



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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Frank, you did notice this post is under "Rant"? This is also BTS not ATS. Are you familiar with sarcasm? Lampooning?

No, I have not actually warmed up to socialism. And no, I actually don't want Biden as president. I was actually making fun of his tendency to speak off the top of his head and at times to tell the truth. That was the case with his warning the nation against traveling in confined spaces where one could be infected by the swine flu. Once "Honest Joe" lets a drop of truth leak from his rather gargantuan noggin', the Obama er.... Pharaoh Akhenaten's administration proceeds to tie themselves in knots attempting to cram the truth back into the bottle. This is typically capped by their trained monkey, Robert Gibbs, holding court to say, “Move along, it’s just Joe being Joe, there’s no truth to be seen here”. Keep in mind Frank that “Honest Joe” is just a heartbeat away from the awful orifice! Capisce?



posted on May, 8 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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Pharaoh Akhenaten!!

Awesome.
He created a new version of god worship, did he not? Him and his hippy wife, took a trip up the Nile (on taxpayers money)..and made a whole new place to hang out.

they loved him for a while..then he was stricken from the records, mostly.

Even Tut changed his last name, to erase the bad memories..

LOL..love it.


BTW..I don't think Press Sec Gibb(on)..Will last past August.
He MUST have horrible Vertigo by now. Spinning Biden's truthfulness into Media tolerable lies.



[edit on 8-5-2009 by spacedoubt]



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 01:10 PM
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I actually feel sorry for the Press Secretary position. No matter who is in the White House, the job of dealing with the press is not fun. They all get that look where they want to be someplace far away.

I also think Joe Biden is doing a terrific job of making the President do good. (BTW, he has no plans on running for President, just like Darth Cheney.)



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 11:47 AM
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Spacedoubt you made my day. "Him and his hippy wife" for sure.

Does this rather big earred fellow look familiar to you?
I've seen this face somewhere.

Amenhotep IV

I am not alone in my linking these two. And SD you touched on the fact that Akhenaten also came in with a lot of "change". BO's changes have been similar to the Pharaoh’s in that they are by decree not the will of the people. And so like a pharaoh he rules over the people not at the will of the people. Both made changes in the national faith. Akhenaten moving toward monotheism and BO moving toward being a singular national god. I trust you've read how he handled the "National Day of Prayer" last week. Not that I care but his followers that thought he was a Christian have been royally duped. He was never a Christian, he was gathering inner-city backing in a church of his wife's faith. That gave Black Americans the impression he was like them. They had no idea where he came from or what shaped him. They're finding out as he did away with the voucher system that allowed inner-city kids into his own children's private school.

You've likely read that a number of prominent black pastors are fuming at gay marriage in Washington, DC. Hmmmmm, not the changes they expected no doubt. They thought they had elected a Black American president. They actually elected an African and perhaps to be more precise, an Egyptian. Oops!

Yes, being press secretary has to suck. I imagine the moral angst of lying for the Bush administration took its toll on the late Tony Snow as he struggled with cancer. Bad Karma sucks!



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 11:53 AM
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Kidflash, you're dead on there as I mentioned to Spacedoubt. They should change the position from Press Secretary to Court Jester. The press should be allowed to throw pies and shout "bs". A thankless job for certain.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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I was watching the Rachel Maddow Show, and she asked a very good question: If there is separation of church and state, why do they have the "National Day of Prayer"? It seems that the President is making a state choice for religion.

Didn't Jesus even say when one prays, close the door?

I also think the Republicans will not allow gay marriage in DC. They may have support from the pastors who were quite upset over that little idea.

I myself could care less, and being a civil libertarian, wish the government would stay out of saying who should marry and who should not.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 06:03 PM
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Of course Maddow is correct KF but she fails to take it to the logical conclusion. Why did this president, her choice of course, swear in to office on a Bible? Tradition you might say. Well then the tradition for the “National Day of Prayer” for over 50 years has been a public showing by the president. It didn’t need to be lavish, just a public gesture. Maddow will not go hard down that bumpy religion road. When BO was running he was a “devout Christian”, once in office he inferred this nation was not based on the Judeo-Christian ethic. (BO left Christianity only slightly faster than he left his incendiary money grubbing pastor.) That's a tough argument for even the most ardent atheist although I think Christopher Hitchens could do it justice. Instead Obama has bent over backwards in prepared speeches to say that Islam had a positive influence on this nation. And how was that? Maybe he meant we rallied in a bi-partisan effort against Islamic terrorism? No, I don't think so. But then to insult his own constituents on the National Day of Prayer while kowtowing figuratively to Islamists and literally to Saudi Sheik Abdullah, a Wahhabist, makes any thoughtful person wonder "what hath God wrought?" if you'll pardon the pun from a secular humanist. I happen to agree with Alexander LaBrecque that Barry is a Marxist from a Muslim background and below is a link to an article explaining that in American Thinker.

Obama's Religious Ruse

JFK was a closet atheist but was able to keep up the public facade.



We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came. - John F. Kennedy


Not much a Darwinist could argue with there and yet that quote is rarely mentioned. His personal life did not point to John being a devout Catholic either but it took decades before we knew of those escapades. But the point with this African man is he refuses to share the limelight with any mythical higher power and yet bows to mere mortals while representing our nation. Bush treated the Saudis in kind. Those lovers’ lane photos of Bush and the sheik strolling hand-in-hand make me want to puke. Bush despite the pretense is also an atheist. (As are his father and brothers.) These upper echelon controllers, including the mentally impaired GWB, have been produced by universities where Marxism rules and moral constraints were dispensed with long ago. I'm certain that Skull & Bones demands blasphemy in the least from their members. One can serve only one master of the universe and NWO trumps God of the Bible every time.

And so we're left to wonder what to make of this NWO boy king. Perhaps were best off taking him at face value, an egotistical tyrant that bows to only Islamists. Perhaps those bows should have been in private like his prayers.



posted on May, 12 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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reply to post by Hemisphere
 


It is written in the Bible that only fools pray in public. All religion should be private and not used by any candidates. I do not care if they are an atheist, Muslim or what, just do their job.

You are correct that once in power, people change. They do love the perks of the job, and most ideas get thrown out.

I can see you really love Barack Hussein Obama. They did interview the Communist Party candidate and he stated Obama was no socialist and was just like the others. President Obama is not a socialist, otherwise he would of nationalized the banks and health care.
The only real socialist in office is Sen Bernie Sanders of Vermont. They respect him for not changing his opinions and being true to himself.



posted on May, 13 2009 @ 12:33 AM
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Kidflash, I'm sure you read the post on the Religious Ruse and there was much there to hint at Obama's Marxist leanings. Following is another piece of the puzzle and I haven't yet touched on Rev Wright, the kibbutz loving chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and Bill Ayers.

Obama's Communist Mentor

Kid, I see Barry as being no more evil than his predecessors. They all played the faith card to get elected and then stabbed the faithful in the back with their policies. I don't care where he prays or if he prays so long as he doesn't represent my country by kowtowing to Muslim tyrants and Sharia law. I was equally disturbed by the Bushes and their Saudi connections. Sharia law is creeping into US courts and communities and Obama's actions are assisting that trend:

Sharia Laws Applied in US Courts

This is where BO's religious charade hurts the country. But now you bring up the banks and health care? You're kidding me right? Following is a list of the banks the US government is a shareholder in:

Treasury's bank bailout list

And that's how Barry along with Bush nationalized our banks. You weren't paying attention. Government run health care is on the way and our government currently runs a number of automobile manufacturers as well. None of those actions are within the US government's defined responsibilities.

I'm very familiar with Bernie Sanders. I've emailed him and received thoughtful responses despite my not living in Vermont. I don't agree with all of his ideas but he apparently "walks the walk". Of course one socialist candidate would not acknowledge a candidate from another party as being even remotely "socialist". You would be defeating your purpose for running.

Just a side note. Having noticed your "Wally West" ATS persona. Starting back in 1966 I collected DC's Teen Titans among other titles. I had #'s 1 - 12 consecutively. Don't remember what I did with them. Damn!!!



posted on May, 14 2009 @ 04:23 PM
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Yes the government has stock in many banks they have bailed out, but they do not have any power over decision making or policy. The banks and Wall Street run the government, so that will not change.

Health care will never be nationalized as there is a lot of profit to be had. There will be "health care" reform, but not any workable version like there is in Europe. Too much money to be made, and the health care and pharmaceutical lobby will not allow any real change.

I did think the bow was a bit much, but it is a term of respect to show a visiting monarch. President Bush and family are close friends with the royal families of the Middle East. The royal families want to stay in power, so they finance the fanatical arms of Islam. If the blame is put on infidels and others, then they will not start looking at the real blame for the extreme poverty of the area: the royal families control of the land, oil and rights of the people. Address the extreme poverty and the problems would start to get solved. That would mean giving up the palaces and all the perks that the royal family members receive so it won't happen anytime soon.

While I do not believe all the wild claims made at President Obama, I do know he (and all the other candidates) needed the support of Wall Street.

On another note, when I was younger I would read my friend's comic book collection. He had one of the largest DC collections I have ever seen. All of them started with #1, and when he went to college he sold them all for only $100. I guess it is better than throwing them away, which is what happens when some get away from the comic book age. I could not begin to give a price to the collection, let's just say it would be well over $100,000 at auction.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 03:41 AM
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I have my doubts on the banks and health care KF. There is a lot of money to be made and I think the government is trying to eliminate the "middle man" (banks and insurance co's). I'll sign on for your version in a heartbeat.

I'll say the Bushes and Saudis are close. There has been much written on the subject.

The Secret Relationship

You're right there KF, the Saudis send their disgruntled youth out into the world. They can't speak out at home, the Saudis don't have the constraints of a democratic republic when it comes to handling dissenters. The FBI stated that most of the 9/11 conspirators were of Saudi origin. Funny how we invaded Iraq and not Saudi Arabia.

The value of collectibles is crazy. We spread the comic books out on the living room floor or rolled them up in our back pockets. It's only paper and the ink likely has lead in it to boot. But we live in the "Antiques Roadshow" world now and everybody's old crap is gold. Except mine apparently.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 09:33 AM
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Believe me I'm not omniscient and not all that worldly but...
This morning I turned on the news to find out that 6 major insurance companies are getting TARP bailouts. One of them my life insurance co. There goes my piece of mind and my miniscule amount of stock. I made that last post just hours ago. I gotta keep my thoughts to myself.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 02:18 PM
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The insurance companies and banks did a bad thing by merging each others assets. There is no bill in Congress to regulate the banking industry and stop the banks from merging with the riskier elements of the financial industry. Wall Street is in it for itself, and the wealthy aristocratic class that runs the show will not go broke. They will manage to get back in the game, and the status quo will return.

Big Pharmaceuticals, Health Care giants, and other powerful groups will not allow for any type of nationalization in their departments. It is kind of a shame, as the European model does seem to work well.

As for Iraq, Saddam Hussein was going to help the US with its war on the terrorists. Cheney, Rummy and Bush Sr would have nothing to do with it as they were planning for the war on day one. Much has come out showing this to be a fact, and they needed to keep Hussein an enemy. I do agree he was a dictator, but that it was up to the Iraqi people themselves to overthrow him. Big Oil wanted all those oil fields for themselves, and not one penny from that oil has gone on to help pay for the trillion dollar war going on. It is lining the pockets of the Oil Barons out there.

One set of good news is that Dr Ron Paul's son is running for the Republican nomination for US Senate in Kentucky. Dr Rand Paul is very much like his father, although they both seem to be at odds with the GOP as it is run today. They are Civil Libertarians along with the other Libertarian thoughts. While I disagree with some of the economic points, I fully agree with their views on our free speech and other rights given to us. Too many GOP types state they are against government, yet they want to limit women's reproduction rights and tell people who the hell they can and cannot marry. (That stuff is none of my business as to what two consenting adults do to themselves and their bodies.)



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 03:00 PM
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Yep, big oil got the oil fields and the construction companies got their shares of the pie too. Those corporations will continue on there and that is one reason BO has been slow on the withdrawal. These companies have benefitted from the military presence. They will continue to have it to a lesser degree going forward as I doubt we will ever see a complete withdrawal. There will be some kind of presence ongoing under the guise of military consulting and such. They spent too much money to just walk away from those bases. They were overbuilt and meant to be permanent.

That is good news regarding Paul's son. Both medical doctors, don't they realize you need a law degree to screw people from an elected position? It would seem Rand is just in time as Jim Bunning has had a series of meltdowns. I don't get too worked up on the abortion issue. It's a false flag and diverts attention. The marriage issue is sticky in that to be truly fair and equitable, either no marriage should be recognized by the government or only civil unions for everyone. Marriage would then be relegated to a purely religious rite. Whatever the changes that are in store I predict lawyers will benefit.



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