Let me begin this post by a small review of some indepence movement in Canada and the US. It is by no means complete as I'm sure i've much to learn
In Quebec, there has been a separatist movement
for a long time. In 1837, a major revolt
against the British who were controling Canada at the time and who tried to assimilate the french-catholic
population.(La revolte des patriotes
as it is being called in Quebec) was crushed by the
In october 1970 the Canadian government ordered the War measure act after a series of bombings by a
group inspired by those in Cuba and Europe. The
then premier Trudeau ordered the army in Quebec and arrested 500 persons without bail or charges. The
is a dark page in Canadian history.
The modern history of the Quebec independence movement
1967 with the creation of the MSA (now the PQ) by Rene Levesque, IMO the greatest politician of Quebec. The PQ won in 1976 and made a referendum in
1980. The NO side won by a good majority but the movement was growing.The movement growed and in
1995 the referendum
was lost by a very thin margin. The results have been highly
contested and it lead to the sponsonship scandal. The canadian governement broke it's own laws a number of times to assure their victory.
Statistics compiled by Citizenship and Immigration Canada show that some 43,855 new Quebecers obtained their Canadian citizenship in the year of
1995. About one quarter of immigrants (11,429) were granted their citizenship during the month of October. In that month, it was the first time that
Quebec residents received more citizenship certificates than Ontario residents, which has not occurred again since. The data also shows an increase in
certificate attributions by 87% between 1993 and 1995. The year of 1996 saw a drop of 39%.
In 1998, PQ activists from the Montreal region brought a list of 100,000 names before the DGEQ. According to them, the 100,000 voters were registered
on the electoral list for the 1995 referendum but were not registered with the Régie de l'Assurance-Maladie du Québec (RAMQ), the Quebec public
health insurer. After exhaustive verifications, the DGEQ found that 56,000 out of the 100,000 did not have the right to vote and should be removed
from the list in the future.
If those information are put into the results, the Yes side won and Quebec should now be independent.The movement has lost a bit since then. IMO it
needs a strong charismatic leader like Levesque was.
The province of Alberta also has a fledging separatist movmement. The Separation Party of Alberta.
have presented only one canditate in 2008. They don't have much of a support right now but, since this province is very rich, IMO this is going to
The Newfies (Newfoundlanders ... no offense, I love Newfoundland, St-John's main street is a place I had so much fun, they know how to party)
are the newest member of Canada and the referendum that made it official has been contested.There is a
small independance movement
and it may become stronger ? Newfoundland has a very interesting history, especialy the role they played in WWII.
For those interested.
In the US, I know that Texas has had ideas of independence since they where conquered. Less known is the one from Vermont.
Second Vermont Republic (SVR) is a secessionist group within the U.S. state of Vermont which seeks to return to the formerly independent status of
the Vermont Republic (1777–91).
There are probably many others that I don't know of.
My opinion on this.
Big countries, from coast to coast are too vast, there's too many different interest and values. They are bound to separate into smaller states in
the long run.
In the US, I believe people from the north east are different from those of the south west. In Canada it is even worse because in Quebec our language
and mentality is very different from those of Ontario or Alberta. The results of some polls often show a wide margin between Quebec and the rest of
I've been thinking for a long time that North America should be something similar to the European Union. I can think right now of a dozen combination
of states and provinces that are alike in their economies and political values. Why not make all of those Nations independent to make their own
political decisions while keeping a central power and economic cooperation.
Am I the only one thinking that could help on a number of issues ?