So what happens when the WHO Declares a pandemic level 6?, page 9
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reply posted on 30-4-2009 @ 12:37 PM by iamjesusphish
reply to post by KaginD


Yea, this past winter was a beast on me. I caught three different bugs and one of them lasted 3 weeks. I have a very strong immune system and cause caught another bug on sunday and he it is thursday and I'm already over it. I do eat well mainly organic and local meat, produce in the summer and drink plenty of water along with vitamins. Not only does that help your immune system it makes you feel great on top of it... Respect your body and monitor what you put in it, we only have one...


reply posted on 30-4-2009 @ 01:14 PM by drphilxr
reply to post by antar


can't tell you to relax, best patient advocates are the family,

but you can piss off caregivers too (as i am a physician, i know).

there are other seasonal viruses out now, unlike the nonseasonal H1N1

outbreak, and don't forget its heavy allergy season (my daughter

and I are sufferers). Find out their differential diagnosis, and plan,

they are obligated to tell you. document. if something goes haywire

its your word vs. theirs (and i hate to say this, but invariably the risk

management 'team' includes lawyers at hospitals, and we are instructed

always that 'mums the word' if you get sued, but ALWAYS be up front

with the patients about everything else BEFORE THEN!)


reply posted on 30-4-2009 @ 01:31 PM by kettlebellysmith
reply to post by Beach Bum
beer is good. But bourbon is much better. I highly recommend Wild Turkey 101. Alcohol is well known to be an excellent disinfectant, and I whole-heartedly recommend that eveyone completly disinfect inside and out. However, only use bourbon which is 100 proof or more. It has been my experience that blended whiskey is much to weak.(Iis my experiance that bourbon works best when taken internaly.)
Seriously, if a level 6 pandemic is declared, you can expect martial law in any area that is highly infected.
The government might got so far as to declare full-fledged martial law until the"emergency" is over.
I really don't understand all the furor over this flu, unless it is because it is a mutation of swine, human, and avian influenza.
I would encourage everyone to keep their wits about them. Remember, a virus, like bacteria, is a form of parasite. A successful parasite does not kill it's host, but rather, forms a symbiotic relationship with the host, thereby benefitting both.



[edit on 30-4-2009 by kettlebellysmith]


reply posted on 30-4-2009 @ 01:59 PM by FredT
reply to post by drphilxr


Very cool. I have basic CT reading skills (ie. Yep it a subdural :lol

Thats the read at work. Those briefed in are sweating it, the rest are indifferent at this point.

My county has a few cases and 1 shut down high school at this point.


reply posted on 30-4-2009 @ 02:18 PM by SourGrapes
Originally posted by drphilxr

There may not be any cross immunity protection with H5N1 from

this H1N1 as hemagglutinin (H) is the major protectant (Ab) inducing antigen.


I'm trying to wrap my head around this, so bear with me. I appreciate your attention and response.

Are you saying the two strains cannot, or will not mutate? Or rather, if they do mutate then a person's prior exposure to one of the strains will not offer any sort of antigens or protection against the new mutation? This is what I do not understand. I was under the impression that all viruses have the tendency to mutate and our risk, at time of exposure depends on our inoculations against prior strains and/or exposure to a previous virus that has segments of the new mutated virus (ouch, my brain hurts).


Classic seasonal flu is H3N2, our last vaccine round.

Yes, its makes sense that to get infected now would be an early,

milder 'auto-innoculation' rather than wait till H5 mixes with H1...

BUT the best policy is to not get it at all, then get the proper non-rushed

vaccine next year...or something like that.


I understand this; however, if we risk exposure the mutation (which is what I believe the PTB are afraid of), why wait 3-6 months for a vaccine, especially considering the 70's incident with a rush to vaccinate. So, wouldn't it make sense to be exposed to the current wave? Will those who make it through this first have a better fighting chance with the next mutation; which, is looking more and more imminent.?


reply posted on 30-4-2009 @ 02:41 PM by KSPigpen
reply to post by greeneyedleo


I live in a small town in Kansas. Our county and city officials have already been briefed on how to respond. We have a huge Hispanic population with a lot of regular trips to Mexico. A meeting at the hospital yesterday was severley downplaying any effects it may have on us locally. We are usually pretty insulated out here from the rest of the world, but I can't help but think that something is afoot.

As has been mentioned, the WHO, CDC, FEMA and now my favorite (barf) lady from kansas, Sebelius are all making a pretty big deal out of something that on the surface seems fairly benign. (yeah, I know the Spanish flu was a big deal)

The loss of a loved one is a tragic thing, but the reality is that we ALL die eventually, and so many thousands more have died from so many different causes.

The part of this whole fiasco that has me scratching my head is the apparent over-inflation of the crisis.

There is a lot of media-fed paranoia at the potential nastiness of this bug, but I can't help but think the 'issue' isn't really the issue at all.

We have all witnessed the past few years of slow erosion of our personal liberties in the name of one thing or another. A nasty bug is such a great tool for that. A virulent outbreak gives TPTB a free license, as if they needed one, to impose whatever measures they wish.

Let's face it, we should ALL already have lots of food and water stored up. We should ALL already be eating healthy and staying clean. We should ALL already be viewing media reports with a tremendous amount of skepticism.

Diversion, misdirection- these are a couple of the tools that are used regularly to allow people to continue their agendas without public outcry. We've seen it all before. "let's get those mean terrorists that bombed the WTC."..."Let's get those dirty jews that are fouling the aryam bloodline."..."Let's get those crooked CEOs that squandered all of our money."

If we can make the boogeyman look bad enough, most people will jump at the chance to limit, yet again, their personal freedoms in the name of remaining safe from the monsters. Let's put our heads under the covers so the monster can't see us.

'Stay in your homes.' 'Don't go to church, or school, or have any types of meetings.'

Something is just really rotten in beantown folks. We're being set up for something.



reply posted on 30-4-2009 @ 03:09 PM by coincidence_theorist
Originally posted by 27jd

It is. That's why there are some of us who look past the MSM hype and the typical, mass freaks out they love to instigate. Some of us remember the very recent past, we remember SARS and the bird flu.



Looking past something is ignorant! what if science operated like that? "Oh, well, in the past this was like this so therefore I will write this off as nothing. "

There is NO DOUBT that the Media is trying to scare everyone. But that's what they ALWAYS do.

That does not mean that the pandemic wont spread. It doesn't mean that the goverment isn't trying to control everyone. All it means is that the media is being the media!

Maybe the media is just trying to get ratings, they could care less If the flu is real or not.

maybe the flu isn't very serious. Maybe it is.

Maybe you'll be shoved into a FEMA camp, maybe you wont.

Maybe this is just a test for when the real thing happens, considering pretty much every scientist agree's it's almost time for a new pandemic.

Things are not black and white! once again, Bush is not EVIL, Obama is not the Messiah! there are shades of grey everywhere.

Just because the media is hyping this and trying to make a #load of money out of it as well as everyone else, does not mean that there will not be millions dead from something by December.

Remember when people used to say "I don't believe the news, they are covering something up. something bigger is going on"

now it's just "To hell with the news."

which of those modes of thinking will keep you the safest?

Honestly, if you wanted to control the entire world would you just "PRETEND" there was some virus and hope you scare enough people unto taking a vaccine?

Why not just freakin release it AND give it in the vaccine as well?

It would be like stopping 9/11 from happening but then still trying to use it as justification to invade the middle east. Too much room for error, you might as well have it actually happens to ENSURE justification.

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