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Topic started on 29-4-2009 @ 08:36 PM by AlienChaser
Why is the government shipping supplies of Tamiflu from it's stockpile to all of the states?


CDC: First Tamiflu Stockpile Shipments Arriving

Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:10 PM

WASHINGTON -- The government says the first shipments of the drug Tamiflu from the federal stockpile arrived in New York state, New York City and Indiana Wednesday morning, and all states will get their share by Sunday.

As a precaution, the government has decided to ship to the states enough medication to treat 11 million people — just in case the new swine flu takes off.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Newsmax

The reason I ask is because the Tamiflu in the stockpile does NOT vaccinate against swine flu!


Swine Flu Vaccine Won't Be Ready Until September

Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:45 PM

WASHINGTON – A top U.S. health official told lawmakers that vaccines against seasonal flu likely to not protect against swine flu and that a vaccine against that deadly disease cannot be ready before September.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Also from Newsmax

So why would there be such urgency to make sure that everyone had access to a vaccine that will NOT protect us from the threat?

I suggest two possible reasons.
First, It is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to sell Tamiflu. An odd coincidence given the prediction of an increase in sales of Tamiflu by some 500% for 2009. It might also make one wonder how this prediction was concluded if this outbreak is purely natural and there could have been no foreknowledge of the event. Unless there was foreknowledge and the jig is up a purposefully inflicted plague designed to depopulate And sell a product to which the only result is the further fleecing of the panicked masses with no effect on the virus.

Second, It could be even more sinister. There is an ingredient in the stockpiled Tamiflu that they want to inject us with. In this case the fleecing remains, but they would have the panicked masses lining up down the block for an injection that will NOT protect them from swine flu.

Again I ask. What is the purpose of rushing Tamiflu into the waiting hands of the states, surely to be quickly demanded by the frightened sheep, when Tamiflu will NOT vaccinate against swine flu??

Any other ideas?


reply posted on 29-4-2009 @ 09:28 PM by Studious
The prediction that sales would increase is startling.

Also alarming is the fact that Obama, Bush and Rumsfeld own stock in the company that produces Tamiflu.

The Chairman of Research of Gilead Sciences from 1997-2001 was Donald Rumsfeld and he remains a MAJOR stockholder in the company. Owning in 2005 between $5 million to $25 million in stocks.

This old CNN money article talks about how he profited from the Bird Flu outbreak fears.

CNN Money Article from 2005



Disclaimer: Whether Tamiflu is safe or not I do not know. They could easily mix something into it.

However Tamiflu is not a vaccination and it is not injected. Tamiflu is the trade name for Oseltamivir. It is a pill and has also been produced in liquid form.

Wikipedia Article on Oseltamivir

It was developed by US-based Gilead Sciences and is currently marketed by Hoffmann-La Roche (Roche) under the trade name Tamiflu.


(underlining added for emphasis.)

Like zanamivir, oseltamivir is a neuraminidase inhibitor. It acts as a transition-state analogue inhibitor of influenza neuraminidase, preventing progeny virions from emerging from infected cells.


In simpler terms it helps to slow virus replication in the body.

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reply posted on 29-4-2009 @ 09:48 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
Originally posted by AlienChaser

Why is the government shipping supplies of Tamiflu from it's stockpile to all of the states?


CDC: First Tamiflu Stockpile Shipments Arriving

Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:10 PM

WASHINGTON -- The government says the first shipments of the drug Tamiflu from the federal stockpile arrived in New York state, New York City and Indiana Wednesday morning, and all states will get their share by Sunday.

As a precaution, the government has decided to ship to the states enough medication to treat 11 million people — just in case the new swine flu takes off.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Newsmax

The reason I ask is because the Tamiflu in the stockpile does NOT vaccinate against swine flu!


Swine Flu Vaccine Won't Be Ready Until September

Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:45 PM

WASHINGTON – A top U.S. health official told lawmakers that vaccines against seasonal flu likely to not protect against swine flu and that a vaccine against that deadly disease cannot be ready before September.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Also from Newsmax

So why would there be such urgency to make sure that everyone had access to a vaccine that will NOT protect us from the threat?

I suggest two possible reasons.
First, It is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to sell Tamiflu. An odd coincidence given the prediction of an increase in sales of Tamiflu by some 500% for 2009. It might also make one wonder how this prediction was concluded if this outbreak is purely natural and there could have been no foreknowledge of the event. Unless there was foreknowledge and the jig is up a purposefully inflicted plague designed to depopulate And sell a product to which the only result is the further fleecing of the panicked masses with no effect on the virus.

Second, It could be even more sinister. There is an ingredient in the stockpiled Tamiflu that they want to inject us with. In this case the fleecing remains, but they would have the panicked masses lining up down the block for an injection that will NOT protect them from swine flu.

Again I ask. What is the purpose of rushing Tamiflu into the waiting hands of the states, surely to be quickly demanded by the frightened sheep, when Tamiflu will NOT vaccinate against swine flu??

Any other ideas?


TamiFlu is not a vaccine, and nothing you posted stated so. TamiFlu is a treatment for people who catch the flu. TamiFlu works the way it's supposed to.


reply posted on 30-4-2009 @ 11:10 PM by Curious and Concerned
Here in NZ, Swine Flu has been making big news headlines (like most of the world at the moment). And whenever there is talk of swine flu, there is always talk of Tamiflu.

One reporter on the news even stated that Tamiflu was the only thing you could use to protect yourself from Swine Flu. (emphassis added by me in bold).

This infuriated me for a number of reasons. Tamiflu does not protect you from flu viruses. Although, you'd think it would by what you see in the media.


Meanwhile all Waikato residents who were on the NZ1 flight returning from North America on Saturday have been contacted and prescribed Tamiflu. They have also been asked to isolate themselves.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

source

So not only the infected on this flight are prescribed Tamiflu, but all of them, even though it won't stop them contracting the virus. I know it reduces the virus transmission within the body, but it is certainly not the only drug to do this.

It is really fishy that there was a 500%+ projected increase in growth for Tamiflu this year. I know I am warning my friends and family to at least be wary of the big push for Tamiflu (and vaccinations in the future). But I'll keep an open mind, who knows whats going to happen in the next couple weeks.


reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 12:52 AM by Curious and Concerned
reply to post by thegreatobserver


I took it a while ago and the effects have been great with no side effects whatsoever.


May I ask what effects you have noticed that have been great? And did you actually have the flu when you started taking Tamiflu?

Just curious



reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 11:55 AM by Lady_Munin
This is just like in 1976 (no I wasn't alive but this video makes it pretty obvious).



Scary everyone into taking a vaccine. You don't want to die from this do you? You want to get shot with a chemical you know nothing about instead


reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 07:27 PM by Studious
This thread brings up the serious concerns about Tamiflu and Relenza.

ATS Thread by illusionincarnate

The side effects of Tamiflu can be very serious even deadly. These drugs have lead to suicides particularly effecting those between the ages of 10-19.

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