I think that maybe the Chinese don't disturb the pyramids out of being cautious of existing energies and what they may be capable of doing. Sort of like the Dragon Lines which are akin to Ley Lines. I read that American engineers were hired to build a railroad across China and they had made suggestions that certain mountains be cut through but the Chinese wouldn't do it for fear of disturbing the energy of the lines. An interesting note; the Chinese became mistrustful when the Americans told them they had no knowledge of Dragon Lines. They couldn't believe that we didn't have knowledge of lines of the electro- magnetic grid. At any rate excellent post thanks.

In his book "Dead Men's Secrets", author Jonathan Gray mentioned some interesting stories

Chapter 27

To the moon and beyond-WERE WE ON THE MOON IN 2309 B.C.

Chinese historians in particular never tried to please their rulers at the expense of truth. Death was preferred to untruthful reports of history. As an example we have the fate of historians in the reign of Chi in 547 B.C. We should therefore take seriously the historical reports of China, even if they seem at first to he far-fetched.
There is a tendency in scientific circles nowadays to regard ancient documents and even mythology and folklore - as sources of history. Anthony Roberts expresses it this way: “Legends are like time-capsules that preserve their contents through ages of ignorance.”
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CHINA, 3rd cent. B.C.
12 (W): Chuang Tzu, in a work entitled Travel to the Infinite, relates a trip he made into space to 32,500 miles from the earth.
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YUNNAN PROVINCE, CHINA
17 (W): Engravings of cylindrical rocketlike machines, which are shown climbing skyward, were discovered on a pyramid which suddenly emerged from the floor of Lake Kun-Ming during an earthquake.
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CHINA
19 (W): “Desolate, cold and glassy”: In the year 2309 B.c. the engineer of Emperor Yao decided to go to the moon. The “celestial bird” provided him with information on his trip. He explored space by “mounting the current of luminous air” (the exhaust of a fiery rocket?).
Hou Yih flew into space where “he did not perceive the rotary movement of the sun.”10 (This statement is of paramount importance in corroborating the story because it is only in space that man cannot see the sun rise or set.)
On the moon he saw the ‘frozenlooking horizon” and erected a building, “the Palace of Cold”.
His wife Chang Ngo likewise flew to the moon, which she found a “luminous sphere, shining like glass, of enormous size and very cold; the light of the moon has its birth in the sun,” she declared. (Chang Ngo’s moon exploration report was correct. Apollo II astronauts found the moon desolate with a glasslike soil—and parts of it even paved with pieces of glass. Most of the moon, at any given time, is in the throes of extreme cold. It plunges to minus 250 degrees Fahrenheit at midnight.)
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CHINA
20 (W): A story from this same period states that an enormous ship appeared on the sea at night with brilliant lights which were extinguished during the day. It could also sail to the moon and the stars, hence its name, “a ship hanging among the stars” or “the boat to the moon”.
This giant ship which could travel in the sky or sail the seas was seen for 12 years.11
CHINA
21 (W): “The Shi Ching” book says that when the Emperor saw crime and vice rising in the world, “he commanded Chong and Li to cut off communication between the earth and the sky—and since then there has been no more going up or down.”12
Is this not a clear indication of the cessation of space travel in the past?

I think some of the ideas in Jonathan's book are inspired by things like the Xian Cha.

In ancient times, there were stories about Xian Cha(literally "the celestial raft") and man travelled to distant place aboard it.

Authored by a Western Jin dynasty writer and official Zhang Hua(232-300 AD) ,the "Bo wu zhi"(record of natural science) recount the story of the Xian Cha: "It is said, once upon a time the Milky Way and the sea were connected, in recent time there were people live at the seashore, every year in the August the floating raft would arrive and leave on time, there was a man with high aspirations, tall pavilions were set up on the raft, with abundant supplies, the man boarded the raft and left. For more than 10 days, stars, the moon, the sun passed by as he observed them, afterwards, the vastness made him indistinguishable of the nights and days. Another 10 days of travel, he suddenly arrived at a place where he saw many buildings which looks like a city, from distance he saw a weaving woman in the palace, he saw a man with an Ox drinking at the waterside. Surprised, the Cowherd asked him "how did you get here?", he explained himself and asked the Cowherd "what is this place?", replied "return to visit Yan jun ping in the prefecture of Shu for answer", therefore he returned without landing. Thereafter a visit was paid to jun ping in the prefecture of Shu(today's Sichuan province of China), he told him that "there was a guest star violating the constellation Qianniu". and thats when the man paid the visit to the Milky Way"

The Song dynasty work "Tai ping guang ji"(Extensive Records of the Taiping Era) is a collection of things stretching a period from the Han dynasty(206 BC- 220 AD) to the Song dynasty(960-1279 AD), citing "Dong tian ji" it says "The Yan Zun(the same person as Yan jun ping in "Bo wu zhi") 'Xian Cha' was placed in the Linde palace of the Tang dynasty(618-907 AD),it is a metal object with the length of more than fifty chi(the measure of chi is different for different dynasties, it is 1chi=27.65cm during the Qin-Han period; 1chi=31.1cm during the Tang dynasty; 1chi=30.72cm during the Song dynasty, thus making the 'Xian Cha of Yan Zun' at least 15 meters long), its hard and it does not corrode. Li deyu(787-850 AD, Tang prime minister) cut thin branch of more than 1chi, carved an image which often flies away and returns, it disappeared since the era of Guangming(reign of emperor Xizong of Tang dynasty), the Cha(raft,ship) then flew away as well."

The Tang dynasty poet Li shi wrote in his poem "one should ask if one ever get the chance to meet jun ping, when will the Xian Cha be returning after its departure?"

The "Shiyiji"(Records of Gleaning) by Eastern Jin author Wang jia(?-390 AD), says during the time of emperor Yao "there were huge Cha floating over the western sea."

The question is were the ancient Chinese some good science fiction writers or there is something else behind these stories?

[edit on 1-1-2010 by sunsky]

I absolutely agree with your interpretation. It seems downright foolish for one to ignore the effects of the original writers of ancient history lacking the technology, and, therefore, the language, required for speaking of spacecrafts and other technologies which are, in the grand scheme of things, very recent technological advances even for our era. As such, the "From the belly of the dragon" could only mean something other than the physical belly of an actual dragon. It makes no sense that it should be complete metaphor. What reasons would the original writers have for writing in total, unsubstantiated metaphor? Thus, it makes much more sense to take their writings as literally as makes sense, understanding that they simply lacked the language to avoid metaphor.

Excellent post. S&F

This is the same story that has been told all over the world. Yes, it has a some twists to it, but the theme is the same.
South America, North America, Middle East, Northern Europe, and it goes on and on.

A Stranger arrives in the land, and proceeds to change EVERYTHING.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
. But while researching for them I came across this picture which is from one of the earliest American civilizations the Olmec I thought I'd post here and see what you guys think?

"Agamemnon's" mask? Surprising similarities...?

Originally posted by Phage
The Chinese pyramids are built of dirt.

[edit on 4/29/2009 by Phage]

At least shew some respect and say "soil" instead of dirt!
Geez Phage, you say some good and interesting things at times and others you are too quick to jump on the debunk wagon to actually use the correct terms. C- for that effort.

How 'primitive' is it when one has to have an organised social structure in place to be able to build these structures?

This is one of my favorite threads on aliens!

So much information in it. It really is amazing and I felt it needed a bump so others who may not have seen it see it.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Why do you think some of this needs to be kept secret?

Why? So that the naysayers can't track down the material to destroy it Thought that was obvious. That is why secret societies were formed... to protect the knowledge from those who would destroy it. You said it yourself...

Being smeared for these topics is common. Take me for example...just some anonymous online poster...and Skeptics have felt it necessary to say about me: "You are uneducated, you dont read scholary books, you did not study at a University, you have not visited any archaeology sites, you are a con-man and a liar..."

This is why history gets rewritten, this is why truth seekers get attacked and ridiculed... this is why some stuff is better kept secret to the general populace. Their 'need to know' is ZERO... if their intent is to destroy it

And this thread is the first time I heard of the Stone Pyramid of Qufu... my first immediate thought was Khufu as well

Originally posted by Burginthorn
Also consider one of the oldest civilizations on the planet today - the Aboriginals of Australia, and their belief in The Rainbow Serpent.

Serpent = Dragon?
Rainbow = Light?
Maybe this fiery dragon is a representation of light, not flames?

Maybe...

I also find it interesting Lucifer is also called a Serpent, a Dragon AND an angel of light ....

And Eve spoke to the Serpent as if it was a normal thing to speak to Serpents We also have the Rainbow Bridge to the Heavens in Norse mythology. Thing is Lucifer was cast out... maybe we are now cheering for the wrong side