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Originally posted by RogerT
So Calleman/Lungold and several others believe and state that the Mayan elders themselves say that 'end date' is Oct 28 2011, not Dec 21 2012, or at least that is what I am understanding. Given the final cycle will be only 260 days, that makes quite a big difference IMO.
Originally posted by BruceF
Consciousness is a part of what we might call fundamental reality, an energetic sub-quantum phenomena in eternal flux which is existent and non-existent, ever perfected. How does that correlate to a flow of evolution over billions of years I wonder?