i would hate to say it,not to sound like a doomer..But if this does go down across the country,if we do not act *''appropriately'' we are only giving in..And we will be the laughing stock of the world,as how many americans said 'I will never surrender to marshall law!!''

*please read between the lines here..

Well isn't this just dandy? I got out of nursing a few months ago because I knew something like this flu was coming down the pike. Now it seems that even if I'm willing to surrender my license for refusal to endanger my health that I can be put in prison for 6 months. They can even come in my house and force me to work with infectious people.

Has the whole world lost it's damned mind?

As far as elected representatives....they are the reason bills like this get passed in the first place! They are no help at all. They deserve a firing squad for their treasonous acts against their constituents. If you write them a letter, be sure to cough on it before you send it! Bas****!

Originally posted by whitewave
Well isn't this just dandy? I got out of nursing a few months ago because I knew something like this flu was coming down the pike. Now it seems that even if I'm willing to surrender my license for refusal to endanger my health that I can be put in prison for 6 months. They can even come in my house and force me to work with infectious people.

Has the whole world lost it's damned mind?

As far as elected representatives....they are the reason bills like this get passed in the first place! They are no help at all. They deserve a firing squad for their treasonous acts against their constituents. If you write them a letter, be sure to cough on it before you send it! Bas****!

I agree with everything you said. Though I still think we need to try to stem the tide. I am making my calls and writing now, and e-mailing!
I have to for my conscience sake!

I don't see what the problem with this is.... I'm happy my state is taking the necessary precautions.

The only way to really stop this kind of thing is by segregating the population until the virus runs it's course.

(5) to require a health care facility to provide services or the use of its facility, or to transfer the management and supervision of the health care facility to the department or to a local public health authority;

Which "department" are they talking about??

Also, not usual to see a typo in an official document, in my experience.
"or by a fine of note more than one thousand dollars, or both."
emphasis added

I haven't been able to find any copy of "S18" or any actual legislation; I'll keep looking

I'm assuming the department in question is the Massachusetts Department of Public Health

Here's some background from the five-year-old report by the University of Minnesota research center: "One of the worst fears of infectious disease experts is that the H5N1 avian influenza virus now circulating in parts of Asia will combine with a human-adapted flu virus to create a deadly new flu virus that could spread around the world. That could happen, scientists predict, if someone who is already infected with an ordinary flu virus contracts the avian virus at the same time. The avian virus has already caused at least 48 confirmed human illness cases in Asia, of which 35 have been fatal. The virus has shown little ability to spread from person to person, but the fear is that a hybrid could combine the killing power of the avian virus with the transmissibility of human flu viruses. Now, rather than waiting to see if nature spawns such a hybrid, US scientists are planning to try to breed one themselves -- in the name of preparedness." And CDC officials actually confirmed the government had plans for the research. The CIDRAP News folks did a great job covering this important issue, which was apparently mostly ignored by the MSM back in 2004, and CIDRAP News wrote to the CDC for information. This e-mail produced an answer from CDC spokesman David Daigle who admitted the CDC was working on the project in two ways. "One is to infect cells in a laboratory tissue culture with H5N1 and human flu viruses at the same time and then watch to see if they mix. For the human virus, investigators will use A (H3N2), the strain that has caused most human flu cases in recent years," the CIDRAP story stated. This co-infection approach was described as slow and labor-intensive. However, it was a way to produce a new virus that appeared to be closer to what develops in nature. There was another, faster way CDC scientists could create the mix, too. Called reverse genetics, it involves piecing together a new virus with genes from the H5N1 and H3N2 viruses. Reverse genetics had already been used successfully to create H5N1 candidate vaccines in several laboratories, the CDC's Daigle wrote. "Any viable viruses that emerge from these processes will be seeded into animals that are considered good models for testing how flu viruses behave in humans... The aim will be to observe whether the animals get sick and whether infected animals can infect others," he revealed in his e-mail. What's more, the CP reported the CDC had already made hybrid viruses with H5N1 samples isolated from patients in Hong Kong in 1997, when there was the first outbreak of that virus, dubbed the "Hong Kong flu". It is not clear if the results of that research were ever published. Back in 2004, Dr. Nancy Cox, then head of the CDC's influenza branch, would tell the CP only: "Some gene combinations could be produced and others could not." The CP's report noted that the World Health Organization (WHO) had been "pleading" for laboratories to do this blending-of-viruses research. The reason? If successful, these flu mixes would back up WHO's warnings about the possibility of a flu pandemic. In fact, Klaus Stohr, head of the WHO's global flu program at the time, told the CP that if the experiments were successful in producing highly transmissible and pathogenic viruses, the agency would be even more worried -- but if labs couldn't create these mixed flu viruses, then the agency might have to ratchet down its level of concern. The 2004 CIDRAP News report addressed the obvious risks of manufacturing viruses in labs that, if released, could potentially spark a pandemic. However, the CDC's Daigle assured the Minnesota research group the virus melding would be done in a biosafety level 3 (BSL-3) laboratory. "We recognize that there is concern by some over this type of work. This concern may be heightened by reports of recent lab exposures in other lab facilities," he told CIDRAP. "But CDC has an incredible record in lab safety and is taking very strict precautions."

Sorry um AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I know I always make Martial Law jokes. I know I always put it right up there with chemtrails and reptilians when I talk about my interests to my friends.


I feel awful about that now because seeing it in writing like that...

I want some freaking Tamiflu to keep on me just in case.

what if the "magic cure" (50 millions doses are already made, Obama released 12.5 million yesterday) what if it where to say make 2% blind or invalid...that's only another 600,000 crippled...and lets say another 3% who are allergic..another 900,000...what about Gullian- Barres Disease which runs closer to 20-30% in Flu shots..which would come up to a nice even 6,000,000 - 9,000,000 more sickened and possibly killed within 3-5 years...are these acceptable numbers...??? is this good for you..??? can you accept the fact that 11.4 million Americans could be severely crippled sickened or killed by a Forced Vaccination all before the Fourth of July...let me see.that's a little closer to 28-38% ...a full third of Americans alone...What About 6 Billion world wide..that would be 2 billion dead...are you still feeling lucky..???.250 million more doses would have to be made within months or even weeks... do any of you even realize that the 1918 Spanish flu was started by on Military base by a soldier..?? the 1976 swine flu pandemic when Ford ordered 220 million Americans to take the "Magic Cure" it was started on a military base by a soldier...in 1918 92,000 Vaccinations were given to the people of Japan..half died the next day and the remainder developed the flu anyway and in turn infected another 300,000 people with a 90% kill ratio so that's 311,400 dead out of 392,000 that's a lot closer to 74% ...222,000,000 dead Americans alone
please read your history not the one the Rockefeller's give you in school but the ones that prove that both of these "outbreaks" were intentional...a militarized biological weapon...stored and handled in a HL3 lab environment where they could never escape it would be virtually impossible, a system of checks would have to fail that is a list of fifty accidents long ..would be the only way...a brand new strain has never invented itself...never

"the authors of AF2025 present a timeline figure representing “plausible history.” In 2009 (????), according to the figure, influenza will kill 30 million people. “A similar influenza pandemic occurred in the past,” a footnote explains, making a reference to the influenza epidemic of 1918 and 1919, described as “one of the worst human catastrophes on record. It has been estimated that more than 20 million people around the world died during the epidemic, and of the 20 million people who suffered from the illness in the United States, approximately 850,000 died.” “The influenza virus is unique among viruses in being able to undergo so much antigenic change that an antigenically and completely novel virus can sweep around the world in a year or two, giving rise to significant morbidity and mortality,” another footnote states.
It is interesting to note that the source of the Air Force’s fictional pandemic is described as unknown and it is not “determined if the virus was a natural mutation or bioengineered. Many feared the latter.” (Emphasis added.)
Is it merely a coincidence the Pentagon would propose in 1996 a deadly flu pandemic for 2009 when live H5N1 avian flu viruses are discovered in vaccines produced by a Baxter International plant in Austria in only Feburary of 2009 or how about today when we may be faced with a Global pandemic....Ha? 1 dead in america and 150-200 in mexico we need to mass inoculate the public and ban public gatherings and travel.... 13,000 die in america every year from to good old fashioned flu regular ..that you can easily cure with ...NyQuil and some sleep... got some Colloidal Silver, ElderBerry, Echinacea, Kimchee??, Sauerkraut.?? Serrano Peppers will burn the fever out and Clean out Mucus.. Echinacea tincture is the Best thing since sliced bread but don't take it forever you can build an immunity to it..