posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 09:56 PM
This story begins on a late summer afternoon in 1989 about four months AFTER the Belgian flyovers of triangle-shaped craft had made international
news. Sgt. Stone is standing in a check point tower with other security people and can clearly see guards in the East German tower across the border.
An alert comes in that a new Soviet aircraft is coming toward them, low to the ground. Sgt. Stone told me what happened during a recent visit to his
Roswell, New Mexico home. Here, with his permission, is an excerpt from that interview. Sgt. Clifford Stone:
"This is what the person reporting -- he has no knowledge -- he is making an assumption here. He's assuming it's Soviet because it's coming in
from the Soviet side. And it actually comes over and very carefully glides this way. Well, since we were already involved and could see it was
somewhat triangular shaped from a distance and it came in very slowly and turned ?you have a vehicle that is triangular in shape that is probably 4 or
5 stories high, three windows of what appears to be lighted windows or ports or something. Three football fields across on either side. This is no
craft that was developed on this earth.
SO IT'S A THOUSAND FEET EQUILATERAL TRIANGLE?
Equilateral. This is huge.
YOU ARE IN THE TOWER OUTSIDE?
Outside. I still have the field glasses I looked at it through.
BUT ARE YOU BEHIND WINDOWS?
No, the tower we're in is open. It took on definite, definite dimension to where you could tell this wasn't any type of conventional airframe of the
Soviets or any other country on the face of this earth. When you saw how huge it was, you're immediate impact was a fleeting moment of fear. But then
your fear turns to awe because you are seeing something that defies the imagination. You are seeing something that you want the grand tour, you want
to go inside and see what this is all about.
WHAT COLOR ARE YOU SEEING?
We are seeing underneath one big, massive light right at the center, circular. And it's red. Then along slightly inside underneath the craft, you
have several rows -- I didn't count them, I can't recollect exactly how many -- but you have several rows of flashing lights, multi-colored lights.
Every color of the rainbow.
ARE THEY GOING LIKE THIS?
Around like that -- then all of a sudden -- and they go at faster speeds.
SO THE TRIANGLE ITSELF IS BORDERED OR EDGED IN THESE FLASHING DIFFERENT COLORED LIGHTS.
With these flashing different colored lights.
AND THERE IS A GREAT BIG RED LIGHT IN THE MIDDLE?
Right in the middle. At the corner of the triangles inside where the colored lights are, you have like a orange or amber light at each end. And
sometimes they would flash white. There was a high background radiation strong enough to kill the people who were within -- half the people involved
should have been dead in 24 hours because of the background radiation. Yet, there were no ill effects. There were some people who got sick, but that
was more along the lines of fear causing these people to get sick.
AND WERE THESE ALL MILITARY WHO GOT SICK?
Oh, yes! As far as the civilians go the location where we were at -- if any civilians saw it none came out to report it. On the Soviet side, I have no
knowledge. Or rather I should say, on the German side, I have no knowledge what happened there.
BUT YOU HAD MILITARY PEOPLE GOING TO A HOSPITAL SICK?
We had military people who came down nauseous. The Aide Personnel took care of them right out there.
They got sick and they vomited.
WAS THE CRAFT IN THE SKY ABOVE THEM WHEN THEY STARTED VOMITING?
Not directly over us because you have an area that is a Soviet territory that's between us and them if no one is there. It was a No Man's Zone.
SO THE TRIANGLE IS OVER THE NO MAN'S ZONE?
Well, it was over the Soviet territory. It didn't come into our territory. We scrambled -- we had fighter aircraft scrambled from Ramstein AFB to do
an Intercept Identify Friend or Foe (IIFF). And they were doing this, but we could not go into Soviet territory.
Now, I wasn't involved with this, but we were monitoring radio traffic from the Soviet side and I know they were very alarmed at what they were
seeing. They also scrambled some Foxbats to do an intercept and those Foxbats were in fact armed. And there was discussion as to them engaging this
DID THEY HAVE PEOPLE VOMITING ON THE RUSSIAN SIDE, TOO?
I don't know.
ONLY OUR SIDE?
On our side, I was there. On the Soviet side, we could tell that they were panicking just like us.
WERE THE MEN WHO WERE VOMITING -- WITHIN WHAT DISTANCE OF THIS?
I would say the closest approach was maybe 200 meters.
IS THAT VERTICAL 600 FEET IN THE AIR OR?
It's at an angle.
AND HOW HIGH DO YOU THINK IT WAS?
Oh, I would say it was probably 400 or 500 feet high. It was low. If it had been higher, it would have been awesome but you wouldn't have a feeling
that it was going to land.
YOU HAD THE FEELING IT WAS GOING TO LAND.
We had the feeling that we were about to be confronted. And your hair was standing up on its end.
Yeah. We felt like -- we felt there was something more to this than just being our fears. And anyone who said they weren't afraid isn't telling the
truth. I can understand a person trying to deny being there and seeing anything more than I could understand a person saying he saw it and wasn't
SO THIS IS ABOUT 400 OR 500 FEET UP AND ABOUT AN ANGLE OF 600 FEET AND MEN, YOU YOURSELF INCLUDED IN THE TOWER, ARE ABOUT 600 FEET AWAY FROM IT?
I would say that we were roughly 600 feet from it.
DID YOU FEEL NAUSEOUS?
I didn't get sick. I didn't feel nauseous. I took an Alka Seltzer after that, but I always had problems and the Alka Seltzer made me feel better.
TEMPERATURE. WARM? COLD?
You felt cold. But here again, I think it was more a psychological effect than physical.
COULD YOU FEEL ANY VIBRATIONS OF ANYTHING?
Actually, no. Actually, it was very quiet. And I looked at the guys on my right and the guys on my left and one guy went ahead and on the back of the
APCs, the M113s, we had anti-tank missiles and one guy was getting ready to fire one of these at the object. And I went ahead and told him, "Hold on,
son. Don't do anything. Don't fire anything. You're not in any danger here. If you do something like that, we may be."
But it was...
WHAT HAPPENED -- DID HE BACK OFF?
Yeah, he went ahead and regained his composure. But all of us were scared. No one ran. We didn't. The Soviets didn't. We held our ground. But we
were afraid. You really had this fear. And...
YOU HAD YOUR WEAPONS DRAWN?
Oh, we had our weapons. You could even hear them changing rounds. The Lt. Col. There went ahead and told everyone to check there fire. "Nobody
AND NOW IT'S UP THERE. EVERYTHING IS SILENT. YOU'RE IN THE TOWER. THEY'RE IN THE TOWER. MEN ARE GETTING SICK. WHAT HAPPENS?
It hangs over there. And this is a unique thing. Our radios didn't go dead. There was a lot of static, but they did not go dead. We could alternate
channels on our radios. And we had I think we had 4 or 5 different ones we were using. As long as we alternated between those 4 or 5, we could go
ahead and communicate.
We went ahead and requested air support from Ramstein AFB and they scrambled some fighters to be on the ready to intercept if it crosses over into our
territory. Because at this stage of the game, it could go any place. And they were going to try to make an identification. And I personally thought
there wasn't going to be any identification made. But they went to try to do -- they scrambled the fighters to get them on station where if it
crossed over, we could immediately lock on them and make a determination as to whether their intentions were friendly or hostile, but we could also
get some gun camera footage. Some of the aircraft came very close to the Fulda Gap -- and sometimes crossing over into it taking some film footage of
AND IT STAYED STOCK STILL WHILE THE AIRPLANES DID THAT?
It stayed stock still. But after that happened, it started to move. It dipped like this -- this is the front. Here we are -- the triangle is pointing
this way and when it got over, it turned very slowly and stopped. Then when the fighters got on station they took photos. Then it turned this way and
went off like this. At which time, the Soviet Foxbats hit up on it and gave pursuit and that was the end of the situation.
Everyone was debriefed about what they saw. They had to do drawings. Everyone was told that there is a new Soviet Fighter. That the Soviets were
testing a -- MIG 37 -- and it was their answer -- I take that back -- it was a version of a MIG 37 that was a Soviet fighter that they converted into
a Soviet bomber and actually it wasn't as big as we were seeing it."
Telling Sgt. Stone and his Army colleagues that the triangle was a Russian Mig and not as big as they saw it with their own eyes is consistent with
the official policy of denial outlined in the 1954 SOM1-01 Training Manual. It says in Section I. Security, Paragraph 12. Press Blackout:
"Discredit Witnesses. If at all possible, witnesses will be held incommunicado until the extent of their knowledge and involvement can be determined.
Witnesses will be discouraged from talking about what they have seen, and intimidation may be necessary to ensure their cooperation. If witnesses have
already contacted the press, it will be necessary to discredit their stories. This can best be done by the assertion that they have either
misinterpreted natural events, are the victims of hysteria or hallucinations, or are the perpetrators of hoaxes.
"Deceptive Statements. It may be come necessary to issue false statements to preserve the security of the site. Meteors, downed satellites, weather
balloons and military aircraft are all acceptable alternatives, ..."
Sgt. Stone's experience raises several questions: What was the strong radiation detected by the Geiger counter that should have been lethal, but
wasn't? Which U. S. government agency has the gun camera film of the enormous triangle-shaped craft while it hovered over the U. S. and East German
guard towers that summer of 1989? Was this the same type of craft that flew over Phoenix, Arizona on March 13, 1997? Who is in these triangles? And
why are they flying in earth's skies? Sgt. Stone remembers at least three destinations for highly classified reports about the triangle craft:
Bolling AFB near Washington, D. C.; Ft. Belvoir, Virginia; and the National Security Agency.