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Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
On the first one: I am a bit of a loss why they didn't put it on night vision all the time. The nigh vision bit is quite impressive but with the normal night view a black background and just a blob, you can't really make out what they are looking at. The other one, the scintillating effect looks a bit artificial. Interesting footage none the less. Although I suspect that the London UFO is stealing your thunder a bit.
Lake Erie UFO: A Closer Examination
What is depicted in the picture above?
Is it two jets several miles apart from each other?
Or two police cars several yards apart from each other?
Or is it what each of us want it to be?
UFO NEWS - On February 6th we posted Michael Lee Hill's UFO video captured on August 18th, 2006 on the shores of Lake Erie. Six days later it has generated a heated debate in the post's comments.
Many skeptics believe the lights pictured above are two distant jets coming at us in a landing pattern - appearing to hover. Other skeptics say these are two police cars driving across a hill at night - on parallel roads with distance forcing the perspective.
We don't think so.
1) Michael Lee Hill tells us he shot this in Eastlake, Ohio. In this topo map of the area you will see no hills near or across the shoreline.
2) If these aircraft are flying towards Eastlake then we can only find two destinations, Lost Nation Municipal Airport and Cuyahoga County Airport. Neither of these airports look the part for what would be obviously BIG planes on approach.
3) If these aircraft were coming in to Cleveland Airport they would be traveling from right to left.
4) In the frame grab above shouldn't there be an appreciable size difference between two aircraft of this size, miles apart — even with the alleged mirage affect?
UFO NEWS believes these two 'things' are flying about 20 feet apart from each other.
If anyone would like to further debunk this sighting I believe we must begin with these new ideas. - UFO NEWS
This footage is from the FOX News UFO segment 2/3/07. They cut out the good parts so I thought you might want to see the whole clip.
Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
Sorry the link isn't working, here's another: www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by GateCrasher
Hello greeneyedleo, thanks for the welcome and the detailed post. Very much appreciated.
Regarding the videos, I just went through all the links you provided, and although it seems ATS have deemed it a hoax, and other than Mr. Frozenthought apparently promoting his case (without permission from the owners of ATS, breaking T&C) - To be honest I didn't find any opposing evidence in that thread which proves that his videos are indeed a hoax. In fact I read many members posts' insisting that it was not a hoax and that they were convinced the footage is genuine.
I dunno, but if it is hoax it's one of the best I've ever seen.