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FAA Memo: Feds Knew Flyover Would Cause NYC Panic

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posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 06:04 AM
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Hey Guys, just to throw something out there! Any chance it could have been the real deal, I mean say one of the Pilots freaked out, or it was temporarily hijacked, and the Jet was chasing it? They forced it down somewhere and got it all under control.

Then the White House doesn't want to scare the # out of everyone, so they come up with this story as a front?

Better everyone getting upset about not being told about a silly marketing campaign, then scaring the crap out of them by telling how close we came to something much, much bigger?

Just a thought!




posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 06:27 AM
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ive been following reinhardt and he says he thinks its a media diversion tactic used to hide the vast amount of money laundering going on at this time.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 06:56 AM
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Im still sticking with my theory that this "Presidential Plane" was modified to spray chemical/bacterial agents over the City as a result of the Swine Flu outbreak that just also happened to be occuring in NYC just 2 days prior. This was the authorities spraying a agent that would help their immune system fight the Virus to stop it spreading.
What better way of getting people onto the streets in Downtown NYC than to fly a plane low-level around buildings circled by fighters and then not announce it to the public. That way you get mass people out on the streets and as many people breathing whatever agents/chemicals was released.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 07:10 AM
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America is no longer



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 07:43 AM
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Using the president's plane to spread chemical agents would be uselessly ineffective. There are hundreds of helicopters that buzz NYC and surrounding areas daily, any of which would be far less suspicious for doing that.

I'm a former NYer and talked to some friends about this incident, a couple of whom work in the Goldman Sachs building - when you stare out an office window, looking horizontally, not up, and see a jumbo jet buzzing past, it scares the living **** out of you.

You can't tell me that the FAA or the military or whoever orchestrated this flyby, didn't know how it would affect people, it seems to be pure malice was the intent.

The least they could have done is performed their turn further from the city or tall buildings.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 08:32 AM
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If the 747 had hit something (which according to accounts it could have), and this thing was still secret, what kind of #storm would they be in? Another 9/11 or would there be a lot of resigning white house, FAA, Police etc officials?



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by SpaceMonkeys
ive been following reinhardt and he says he thinks its a media diversion tactic used to hide the vast amount of money laundering going on at this time.


It's been hidden quite well for years, legally, without the need for diversionary tactics, and if reinhardt was worth his salt and paid full attention to market equations, then he would know that too.

I think reinhardt had better keep on schooling himself a bit further.


AB1



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 08:52 AM
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I was in school when this happened. Air Force 1 and the escort plane that was accompanying it flew right over my college (St. Johns) campus on Staten Island. Immediately I doubted that it was AF1, because there is really no reason for any plane to be flying that low, especially on the North shore of Staten Island. To my knowledge there is no flight plans that are located on the North shore of Staten Island, unless there are and the planes are too high up to notice. I swear that if I was on the top of a tree I could've jumped up and touched the planes. This is an exaggeration of course, but not what it looked like when it happened. When it flew over there was a class change so everyone was outside watching. People stood still for at least five minutes because no one knew what was going on. People ran over to their friends and every one started questioning each other. I guess you can say the school was in a slight panic.

The next day I went to pick up my pay at my job and was talking to my boss about what happened. Apparently he never heard of what happened, talk about living in a box. I explained it to him and he couldn't grasp the concept of the whole "taking a picture" with AF1. I for one agree. I didn't know photoshop was such an abstract concept for the government. I told him that it was probably a test to see how "New Yorkers" and other people who were effected by events of 9/11, would react to something that could potentially be a repeat of the Wolrd Trade Center attacks.

What I was able to figure out was only a few people knew about it. The guy in charge of the summer festivals (or fairs, I forget his actual title) in New York City and the people aboard the planes (obviously). To my knowledge both the president and the major were very upset because they were not informed of the intentions of the pilots... Who knows if this is actually true. I mean they can be acting the way the public wants them to act. Both the president and the mayor could be putting on a show of the public.

Who knows anymore all I know is something seems to be a little of base don't you think?



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 08:54 AM
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A press release that should have read like this if they gave a darn:
"Good Morning America. In about an hour New Yorkers will be treated to a series of special flyovers consisting of the Presidents Plane along with a F-16 fighter escort. The 3 planes will be performing a series of manuevers to provide a series of photo opportunities for the Department of Defense. The fly-bys should take approximately thirty minutes while they take their photos and New Yorkers are treated to a great view of the Presidential plane and two of our nations best fighters. So, please don't shoot at them or run out into the street in a panic." Yep, Havin' a real hard time believing this even with a pre-planned, blanketing media blitz. Definitely, an ulterior motive, such as a distraction is my best guess.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Redhead6971
reply to post by UmbraSumus
 

A press release that should have read like this if they gave a darn:
"Good Morning America. In about an hour New Yorkers will be treated to a series of special flyovers consisting of the Presidents Plane along with a F-16 fighter escort. The 3 planes will be performing a series of manuevers to provide a series of photo opportunities for the Department of Defense. The fly-bys should take approximately thirty minutes while they take their photos and New Yorkers are treated to a great view of the Presidential plane and two of our nations best fighters. So, please don't shoot at them or run out into the street in a panic." Yep, Havin' a real hard time believing this even with a pre-planned, blanketing media blitz. Definitely, an ulterior motive, such as a distraction is my best guess.



Thats a fair comment .
A "heads-up" would of been easy organised , as you said.

I hope a little more information comes to light surrounding this bizzare occurrence. A photo-Op is a ridiculous excuse .



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 09:27 AM
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Has anyone asked who was on the plane? Was Air Force One (or Two) empty? I'd like to know who the passengers were if any.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 09:32 AM
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I agree with you guys this event is very disturbing. I feel as many of you do that something is in the makings.

We all need to watch our locations and be aware of anything unusual. Swine Flu first off Doctor's on the news are saying Flu season is over so this doesn't make sense. No pigs or birds infected as we know so what is going on.

The News said there are three or so AF1 planes used as a diversion so you don't know which one the President is on. They said this cost over 328 thousand dollars for this 3 hour operation.

I don't know about you guys but that money for 3 hours could have paid off my house and all my bills I could have bought 2 or 3 new cars taken a vacation and put a hundred grand in the bank, but hey in 3 hours they took our hard earned money and used it for there agenda and to he&& with us, shame on them.

They are up to something be alert people.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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The problem with the theory that it is to hide the money laundering - I think the fed just took 300 billion more - is that no one seems to much care about that anyway.

We just have a tea party and say HEY, they're taking our ________" Then we go home, to watch the coverage and look at youtube videos.

The tea parties were great, glad they happened, wish they'd been bigger, don't get me wrong -I'm just saying, obviously, people already KNOW about the looting.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 10:13 AM
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"Photo-Op"? Please, don't insult our collective intelligence - this was a cover-up for something else.



did you ever consider that IF this is some big evil scheme that Obama concocted in order to take over the planet that perhaps the intent of this fly-by was to get all the conspiracy "theorists" talking about it, devoting tons of time and effort to figuring it out as a diversion in it's own regard?

"our collective intelligence"

Collective and intelligence don't go hand in hand.

To quote "K" From Men in Black

"A person is smart, people are dumb, stupid, panicky animals and you know it"




Didnt think of it that way?

Does not surprise me.

Most conspiracy 'theorists" i've ever talked to are right 100% of the time, and they'll tell you so themselves.


Hey Guys, just to throw something out there! Any chance it could have been the real deal, I mean say one of the Pilots freaked out, or it was temporarily hijacked, and the Jet was chasing it? They forced it down somewhere and got it all under control.


In my opinion, the guy who said this
is the only person in this entire thread who's thinking outside the box.

Kudos to you for going against the "collective intelligence"

[edit on 29-4-2009 by Fremd]



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Erasurehead
I can't verify if this is authentic but this is supposed to be the FAA memo. Found it on another site discussing the topic. Trying to find another source to verify. www.democraticunderground.com...
Edit to add another link to FAA memo. ohmygov.com...


What exactly does "The Public Affairs posture for this effort is passive." mean? Also, this may sound naive, but from what I read of witness reports and how low and close this came to buildings, aren't there some kind of aviation guidelines as to how far planes are required to stay away from occupied buildings and public areas, etc? I can't believe the risks were worth this "joyride" photo op.

Mod Edit: Trimmed Excess Quoting And Fixed BBcode. Please Review This Link.

[edit on Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:31:26 -0500 by MemoryShock]



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by Abbby

What exactly does "The Public Affairs posture for this effort is passive." mean?


[edit on 4/28/2009 by Erasurehead] [/qot


I believe the line following the one you quoted provides insight into what a passive posture is;




No media or press releases are planned.


I believe the memo was directing the PR people to not promote the event either before or after and to direct any incoming inquiries about the event to the appropriate personnel at the FAA.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by searchforknowledge
reply to post by greeneyedleo
 


Hey Guys, just to throw something out there! Any chance it could have been the real deal, I mean say one of the Pilots freaked out, or it was temporarily hijacked, and the Jet was chasing it? They forced it down somewhere and got it all under control.

Then the White House doesn't want to scare the # out of everyone, so they come up with this story as a front?

Better everyone getting upset about not being told about a silly marketing campaign, then scaring the crap out of them by telling how close we came to something much, much bigger?

Just a thought!


The chance of this plane being hijacked out of Andrews Air Force Base, IMO is highly unlikely - and practically impossible. Id have to hear a reeeealy good explanation of how this would be possible before I ever entertain that idea.

The pilot out of control? The pilots that fly these planes are not just some random pilot fresh out of pilot school. And if a pilot screwed up that bad, I cant see why that would be hidden from the rest of us.

I think its great you are thinking hard about this and trying figure out what they are lying about.........but I think those 2 possibilities are highly unlikely



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Comes at the same time as "swine flu". I suggest you all be good citizens and be very, very afraid.

Whoever ordered this stupid "photo shoot" is not a human.


From my studies I would have to agree with you. Whoever is doing all these things to us 9/11, Iraq, the economic crash, bailing out the banks while Families are thrown out on the street for an adjustable interest rate (wouldnt it be better for everyone to have these peoples rate out back to a prime rate they started with?), the list goes on forever and now this bit of fear.

Edit to add: How can anyone be so asleep to think this was just a stupid mistake? This was in no way a stupid act, it was well thought out and went as planned.

With so many stupid people in this nation we don't seem to have a chance against the puppet masters.




[edit on 29-4-2009 by LoneGunMan]



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 11:23 AM
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Maybe they upgraded their hologram software and delivery system and the plane wasn't even real.

Seriously, I think the important thing is to look at what buildings were evacuated and who exactly gave the order to evacuate them.

It had to have been a diversion, specifically for the people in the NY area, that were directly affected by it, IMO.

No other plane could have had such a good excuse for doing it.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Fremd
did you ever consider that IF this is some big evil scheme that Obama concocted in order to take over the planet


I don't think anybody is attributing this directly to a scheme by Obama, I think you may be on auto-pilot from some left vs. right thread. No need for that here, you can leave the pom poms at the door.



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