Bowing to Saudi Royalty:
Originally posted by tatersalad
This is a scarecrow issue as far as I am concerned. So many people go on about the Obama “Bowing Incident” as if there is some deep rooted
conspiracy of subservience going on. I don’t know what anyone else has been taught, but when, culturally speaking, you are in someone else’s
home, you play by their, cultural, rules. George W. Bush kissed the same exact man on State visits and walked around holding his hand…does that
imply that they are gay lovers? About as much as Obama’s bowing implies subservience.
This is to completely ignore the direct business connections between the Bush Family and the House of Saud…a case could be, and already has been,
made illustrating the economic collusion that exists between the two.
Obama’s “subservience” is the least of our worries.
Mandatory Service Resolution:
I, for one, don’t think it’s a bad idea. An understanding and appreciation of Civil Society in our country has all but evaporated in modern
society. Kids graduating high school are leaving with inadequate educations, with no direction, and little or no concern for anyone but themselves,
in my opinion. Oh my goodness, the travesty, the horror; the promotion of community service through the PeaceCorps, or through local
organizations…its slave labor that these kids should be forced, well not really forced but pushed toward a little bit of community service that they
won’t get paid for….the shock and horror that it may cut into the time that they’re sitting in front of the television watching American Idol or
America’s Next Top Model…
Where would it stop…its government reprogramming at its worst. Kids will be trained to turn in their parents, to be spies…it’ll be like the
Hitler Youth, like Little Commies…
The funny thing is that I was out to dinner with my father a few weeks ago, he is a staunch Republican and a veteran, and he was going on a tangent
about how there are so few options for young people today, how they have no direction, no respect, and how this country would be far better off if
there was mandatory military service, or something of that nature, for them upon graduation… I added non-military community service, as well as
humanitarian service to the equation, which he agreed would be a good idea…and then proceeded to explain to him that the Obama Administration was
attempting to push for something very similar to what we were discussing…funny how when someone comes up with an idea, it’s the greatest idea in
the world, but when someone else comes up with the same idea, its oppressive and likened to slavery.
While it is unfortunate that the tab for the recovery package is incredibly high, at this point and time, it seems to me that the “Standard” plan,
at least that which the Republican party tend to hold near and dear to, for economic recovery, IE, Tax-Cuts that mainly benefit the rich and
Deregulation that mainly benefit the rich...does not work. It seems to me that that policy of supercapitalist domination has run its course and
should be discontinued.
“Conservatives” and Republicans alike love to tout the phrase “tax and spend Liberal” around all of the time, in some derogatory sense…and
it works, though anyone who takes a moment to look at the political and economic reality of the phrase and the reality of the society we live in can
see it is..well...just being silly. The reality is that in the past 30 (20 of which have seen a Republican President and more than have of which have
seen a Republican controlled Congress) years have seen a dramatic increase in the national debt and the deficit, the record spending, up until now(out
of desperation to fix the already collapsing economy) have come during Reagan and W. Bush’s Administrations…Clinton was actually a relatively
conservative spender, and actually criticized for his cutting of the military budget. Now, H.W. Bush raised taxes(after saying his little “no new
taxes” schpeel) and Clinton raised taxes(and saw budget surpluses.) So, Republicans attacking the size of the Recovery package is facetious at
best, because, well, the “tax and spend Liberal” does exactly what Republican have, only recently, been crying for the nation to do…they do
their best to spend only that which they have collected in taxes. The only alternative to doing so is to do exactly what the last Administration did,
and what the current administration is forced to do… Borrow, Borrow, Borrow….which will only have to be paid back in the taxes of future
I agree that a lot of money needs to be invested in Americas infrastructure, on the roads, on the power grid. I agree that government buildings
should be made “greener.” I agree that we should invest in Green Technology and that the government should push for a Green Energy Revolution,
because the Energy Industry sure as hell won’t. I agree that we need to invest more money in our schools, and in technology in our schools, in
order to allow our students to, perhaps regain a competitive edge against Chinese and Indian students in science and maths.
Do I think that some money will be wasted here and there on stupid, unnecessary projects…of course I do…but there is a lot in this nation that has
been neglected for far too long…
My GOD, Healthcare need reforming…and I am fully in favor of a nationalized healthcare system. We need to stop allowing insurance companies and
BigPharma to dominate medicine. I have experienced nationalized healthcare in England, and I can honestly say that there is nothing wrong with it.
If you’re not satisfied with the service provided, which is actually the best healthcare I’ve ever seen, then you’re allowed to pay for your own
private practice and coverage…but it is the government’s responsibility to allow for the pursuit of life and liberty….to me, private companies
do everything they can to deny it.
If any country can do a nationalized healthcare system, since America is supposed to be the best country out there, it should be us. It is a basic
Anyway, this is going way off topic in simply replying to another poster..I'd be happy to discuss this topic further in another thread though...
[edit on 29/4/09 by madhatr137]