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reply posted on 28-4-2009 @ 01:13 PM by adrenochrome
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you're absolutely right!!

my second thread on ATS somewhat touched on this subject..

www.abovetopsecret.com...

...they stare into the sun, and live off of only water and sunlight, similar to a plant...

i've often wondered if that's is how humanity is supposed to be...

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reply posted on 28-4-2009 @ 01:56 PM by keldas
reply to post by ALLis0NE



Why though would the cases of flu in Mexico be so deadly? I would have thought that as Mexico is a hot country with plenty of sunlight that would have effectively killed off the flu virus.


reply posted on 28-4-2009 @ 02:16 PM by AllinTheMind89
Great post, AIO! S&F

I remember learning in Anatomy class my senior year of high school about how important the sun is to our bodies, especially when it comes to Vitamin D. However, we all know that too much sunlight can be bad and thus we shouldn't tan everyday or go to a tanning bed everyday. Personally I don't see how anyone could, but there are many people who do.

Healing 4 Life: Is the Sun's UV rays actually good for you?

I found this article some time ago while researching Diabetes for a class paper. It's very interesting and states how the lack of sunlight can be linked to conditions such as Cancer, Diabetes, Depression, Osteoporosis, Depression, as well as others.

It also states how Vitamin D is good for the immune system and how lack of it can cause an increased risk of respiratory illness'.

Now let's put down the computer and go out and grab some sun


reply posted on 28-4-2009 @ 02:27 PM by retroviralsounds
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Good try but... no. UV doesn't kill anything. It mutates DNA, which in bacteria usually results in death... but in viruses (i.e. swine flu) can kill them, or it can make them MORE pathogenic. The fever that accompanies the flu is caused by your body fighting itself, this cytokine storm you are all being introduced to now. When your body fights infection it also harms itself a little, thus the fever.

The waxy coating on the flu viruses is actually a lipid bilayer it pirated off its host cell, and it melts actually at room temperature or above.

We use UV bulbs to turn on overnight to decon our biosafety cabinets, and even though they are on all night long 12+ hours, we still do not consider that hood deconned. We usually do not consider anything deconned until its gone through DNA erase, bleach and then isopropanol THEN UV overnight


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reply posted on 28-4-2009 @ 03:22 PM by chiron613
The reasoning that, since we're water, ultraviolet rays will kill germs within us, is not sound.

First, our water is contained primarily within cells or in our bloodstream. We've got some sweat and other secretions, but for the most part, cells and blood. In order to kill viruses in our bodies, we'd have to irradiate our cells - all of them. And we'd have to irradiate our blood. For this to effectively kill the viruses, we'd have to sacrifice our cells and our blood. UV radiation strong enough to kill the viruses, would also kill our cells, blood cells, and damage the chemicals within the blood.

Think of it this way: boiling kills germs, and in particular, it kills flu virus. We're mostly water, so boiling ourselves would kill the flu virus. That's true - it would destroy the flu virus. But we'd be boiled, and dead long before the viruses were killed.

As for TB, yes, UV was used as a treatment for it. People were encouraged to get out into the sun as much as possible. Special lamps were used, and even shined into a person's throat (trying to shine into the lungs) to kill the bacteria. People died of TB anyway, because the treatment was essentially ineffective.

Like many diseases, TB had a variable and unpredictable course. Some people recovered quickly and went on to lead normal lives. Others dragged on for years, never healthy, but not sick enough to die of TB. And of course, many people died. When you have this sort of variable result, it is to be expected that some people under any treatment will recover. That would make it look like the treatment was a success, when most of the time it had little to do with the recovery.

Although ultraviolet was used to treat TB for decades, there were few recoveries until the development of Isoniazid and other TB-specific drugs. Had the UV truly been effective, there would have been no need for drugs.



reply posted on 28-4-2009 @ 04:05 PM by win 52
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Tried silver for several months. No blue, but my skin turned an ash colour. Was blue next?

Helped, but was not a cure.

Have been taking digestive enzymes, designed to digest parasites. That makes the most headway with all of those other side effect things. I have tried many other snake oil cures, but the enzymes work best.

It isn't a silver bullet...more like a slow train to better health.

The other one that worked well was frequency and electrofire. I couldn't stop the enzymes though, without going backwards. A tonic concocted of both might work really well for cancer victims.

That cancer is a bad one...I figure it is parasite based depending on your genetics.

Does that make genetic warfare, make sense?

Blue bloods are of a certain genetic makeup. How do you maintain controll of the masses, so they don't take over?


reply posted on 28-4-2009 @ 05:00 PM by shug7272
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I am actually qualified to comment on this so I will. Your logic is good and you mean well OP but unfortunately I dont think you are on to what you think you are on to. The virus in your body does not travel in the way you are imagining and the UV light cannot penetrate deep enough to kill the virus on its own without causing harm to the living tissue of the body itself. There are a multitude of reasons that flu thrives and spreads so well in the winter/cold. I wont go into them but anyone with more than a few years medical training knows that it is not that simple.

There is one area where you are flat out wrong but right at the same time. Literally. You are right that the body temperature rises to help kill/fight the virus. Most viruses are actually fragile and dont last long outside of their peak environment. But that is basic knowledge in medicine. You are wrong that people think fever is a warning sign. It does act in that way but your body is not literally saying to itself "OH # I BETTER GET SOME HELP!" It is doing what years have told it kills the virus. Raise its temperature and attack it with the immune system. Great line of thinking!

The fact that cavemen didnt live to be 100 years old kinda debunks your theory. They spent plenty of time in the sun and if you were correct it would have saved them from not just the flu but many other diseases. I know they had no sense of medicine but being nearly free of most virus/bacteria would have saved them alot of trouble. It just doesnt work that way.

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reply posted on 28-4-2009 @ 05:53 PM by ALLis0NE
Originally posted by shug7272
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There is one area where you are flat out wrong but right at the same time.


That is what I was aiming for, to tell you the truth. There is a lot more to my thread then what I said.

I guess you have to play "connect the dots".

You can get Vitamin D from a light bulb? Sweet.

Here is some more good reading about viruses...
health.howstuffworks.com...

Make sure you read all the pages.

health.howstuffworks.com...

Your immune system responds to the infection, and in the process of fighting, it produces chemicals called pyrogens that cause your body temperature to increase. This fever actually helps you to fight the infection by slowing down the rate of viral reproduction, because most of your body's chemical reactions have an optimal temperature of 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit (37 degrees Celsius). If your temperature rises slightly above this, the reactions slow down. This immune response continues until the viruses are eliminated from your body. However, if you sneeze, you can spread thousands of new viruses into the environment to await another host.


health.howstuffworks.com...

Reducing the Spread

As discussed above, viruses can exist for a long time outside the body. The way that viruses spread is specific to the type of virus. They can be spread through the following means:

Carrier organisms - mosquitoes, fleas
The air
Direct transfer of body fluids from one person to another - saliva, sweat, nasal mucus, blood, semen, vaginal secretions
Surfaces on which body fluids have dried


Did you know you can spread viruses by sweating? Maybe you can get rid of them by sweating too.... hmmm
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