Why the panic over something as trivial as Swine Flu?, page 3

reply to post by Freelancer

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Go study the swine flu of 1918 and you might learn why the CDC and WHO are freaking out. They know this is the big one. There will be millions, maybe billions of people dead within 1 year.

Once this gets to India and China, its all over. This is a virus, not a bacteria, there is no cure, no vaccine.

Oh let's see..
Is this enough reason for people to panic?

Reported confirmed cases in the folowing countries:

Switzerland, Spain, Scotland, Ireland, New Zealand,
Mexico( 2028 infected155 DEAD), Mexicali, Canada, U.S.,
France, Denmark, Norway, U.K.,Israel, Peru, Chili, Bolivia, Columbia, Russia, Tiland, Tiwan,
Austria, Germany, Austraila (70 new cases in last 24 hrs.) South Korea...etc.


This strain of Swine Flu is far from trivial.
See for your self. When you look at a map it becomes very scary !!



www.idemc.org...

maps.google.com...,9.316406&spn=34.792294,79.101563&t=h& z=4

reply to post by gwydionblack

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Our medicines don't work, they have nothing to treat this. Tamiflu cannot treat this variant and they know it.

It will take them at least 6 months before they can even grow out a strain, kill it and use the left over RNA to make a vaccine, then they have to test it6 more months, human trials, 3 more months. By then the first wave will have run it's course and millions will be dead.

Originally posted by Freelancer
Are people really that uneducated and close-minded to the world they live in?

Yes they are. It's even worse than that. Look at this thread.

A big part is people demand the facts before anyone has any to report, so the media obliges with a combination of hysteria driven wrong info and now urban myths like those driving this story.

It would appear the normal seasonal flu is more deadly and yet we have panic.

reply to post by the8th

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How will panic and false information help? The ordinary seasonal flu and pneumonia kill more people every year than this one is likely to kill. Why are we not panicking over that?

Is it not likely that millions in Mexico is the true number who has been sick and that we don't know that because the mortality rate is so low and few have gone in to hospitals?

It turns out the hype about the mixture of flu's was wrong. It is a mixture of the Euro/Asian variety with the North American variety making Jones and his kin a horses ass for spreading the false information.

Of course you folks are panicked. Say thank you to the media because the panic is unnecessary.

This thread has a link to good information from the first reliable sources.

Another thing that strikes me as odd is the concept that those masks will filter out a virus. They won't in fact. You won't find a Hazmat team wearing them The masks are a placebo. Common sense and washing your hands will do more good.

reply to post by Freelancer

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You're absolutely right, in a sense. UNTIL this flu broadcasts and claims 20,000 lives, it is not an immediate threat worldwide. HOWEVER, the cause for concern is those agencies and countries that look ahead, mindful of the patterns that are being exhibited now. It is an extropolation of probabilities.

Don't forget...... a pandemic spreads geometrically. The first few days of reporting started showing a POSSIBLE pattern. It didn't crop up in major cities with international airports. It started in clusters everywhere. I would guess that it is as prevalent in the Middle East, Russia, China as other places, but perhaps the reporting is being curtailed. Even if that is not true (and if it is NOT, then ...... hmmmmm) there is a tendancy with viruses to infect in a geometric pattern, replicating, perhaps shifting, spreading.

By the time it reaches the threshold you spoke of --20,000 -- the war might have already been won or lost. I think it's entirely appropriate to treat this virus as a potentially serious pandemic.

If it doesn't shake out that way, several million dollars are spent unnecessarily, but not lost, as systems and responses are tested. If it does shake out that way, lives are lost. Lots of lives that might've been saved had "they" not acted as they are now. I think it's a good gamble to assume the worst. Ask any virologist...... the planet is long overdue for a pandemic, as compared with past history.

Certainly the scourge of AIDS has been a horror, and continues to be so. The spread rate, however, is small compared to an active communicable virus. I just thank God that it wasn't Ebola or Marburg that is spreading now.

cheers

Just came across a pretty good, evenhanded treatment of this media manufactured Armageddon at mercola.com.

A physician published his own thoughts on the Swine Flu and explains, with references, what everyone not moved by the pandemic of melodramatic, flashy and heavy-handed coverage should recognize - we've been here before, and there are other illnesses (not to mention news stories) that more warrant this attention.

Here is one excerpt from his article,

Honestly, your risk of being killed by a lightning strike in the last five years was about 2,300 percent higher than your risk of contracting and dying from the bird flu.6 I'm not kidding! In just one year (2004), more than 1,170 people died from lighting strikes, worldwide.

SOURCE ARTICLE

The statistics still continue to fail to support the fervor over these influenza cases.

You can track these cases - what there are of them, with Google Swine Flu Tracker.

You'll notice that many of the few cases that are being reported in the U.S. end up not being the Swine Flu. You'll also notice that most or all of the cases in the U.S. that have been confirmed cases end up being sent home and return to their daily activities.

Does this sound like a pandemic? No. There is not, by any stretch, an exceptionally large number of any population affected by this strain of influenza.

You'll notice that many of the statements made in the media and elsewhere are speculative; statements to the effect that "we expect to see a rise."

There is reason to believe that the number of cases might increase based on the fact that this outbreak (so to speak) just occurred. But to say in the media (including print media and the Internet) that a case is probably Swine Flu before it's been fully diagnosed, and reporting as such is irresponsible.

This anticipated rise isn't really manifesting to the degree that the media has everyone panicked about. Perhaps the rash decision by the media to blitzkrieg us with what appears to be modern day Armageddon was in fact premature and irresponsible.

People have the perception that if multiple media sources are reporting something, then there is good cause to believe the information is unbiased and accurate.

We understand now, however, that there are a small number of organizations (individuals) that control the myriad media outlets and organizations that provide us our daily bread.

Perhaps these are elements, which control certain segments of the media, want to perpetuate a level of fear and anxiety under the guise of public awareness...

That would be conspiratorial though, and we know how baseless conspiracy theories are...

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