36,000 People die of 'flu in the USA each year, page 1
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Topic started on 27-4-2009 @ 02:52 PM by Essan
I appreciate this is old news, but I think it's useful to get a sense of proportion here.

So far just over 100 people have died of Swine 'flu in Mexico and exactly 0 have died in the USA.

Data from 2003 suggests that on average 36,000 people die from 'normal' 'flu in the USA each year

Source

Using new and improved statistical models, CDC scientists estimate that an average of 36,000 people (up from 20,000 in previous estimates) die from influenza-related complications each year in the United States. In addition, about 11,000 people die per year from respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), a virus that causes upper and lower respiratory tract infections primarily in young children and older adults. The study demonstrates that most deaths caused by RSV occur in the elderly.


Whilst Mexican Swine 'flu may have to potential to become a serious pandemic, let's, for the time being at least, keep a sense of proportion, eh?

Or maybe unnecessary panic is what people want?


reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:00 PM by cropmuncher
reply to post by Essan


Totally agree mate.
Its strange how the media have run with this one esp as the cases outside mexico are of a milder form of it (those that are confirmed that is).
I wouldnt be suprised if this is being used to some advantage by the govts in some way.


reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:00 PM by Grimstad
reply to post by antar



Well I was going to disagree but FF saved me the effort.


reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:04 PM by Witness2008
reply to post by Essan



I have seen very little panic here at ATS and a wealth of legitimate discussion.

A and B flu strains kill those with compromised immune systems. This particular flu is a combination of Avian, Swine, A and B and seems to be killing young healthy Mexicans, but not healthy Americans and Europeans.

I think the subject deserves our attention.



reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:05 PM by digitalwarrior
reply to post by Essan



Did you count them all personally to CONFIRM it is a true thing? This is just data provided by government anyway, with a good advance to be used later to make fake comparisions.

I personally find quite strange that so many people die for regular flu

However you probably forgot to think about the fact THAT people are probably mostly OLD people, that are dying in a way or another cause they are ...indeed OLD.

If there is so much going on in Mexico is cause that flu attacks HEALTHY, MID AGE people.

which sounds like a totally different concept to me.






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reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:12 PM by Witness2008
reply to post by scordar



Good call, I certainly will be. I saw news on the little flyover of a military escorted Air Force One over new york this morning that paniced half the city.


reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:12 PM by digitalwarrior
reply to post by scordar



that's a part of the game, but you never know how big is the piece of cake this flu is about.


reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:18 PM by marg6043
reply to post by Essan



Regular flu attacks the very young and they very sick and the mortality rates are high.

The swain flu is attacking healthy sections of the population not the very young and the older.

That alone should be cause for concern.


reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:21 PM by pause4thought
reply to post by Essan



I applaud your attempt to examine the situation in the cold light of day. It's all too easy to get caught up in a bandwagon without listening to both sides of the story. The evidence you've presented is not to be scoffed at.

Let's keep our minds open and our ears pinned to the ground.


reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:26 PM by Witness2008
reply to post by Essan



I certainly see worry splattered about in most public forums which in my mind is the prelude to panic.... that in the end keeps one from seeing past their own fears.

I'm not afraid...I'm suspicious.


reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 03:29 PM by Guzzeppi
reply to post by Essan

So it's ok that 36,000 people die a year? Well 36,000 people died from influenza viruses that we knew about! This strain is new, meaning that there is no vaccine yet developed and could kill as many or more as it did in 1918-1919. There is not enough Tamiflu or any other drug to offset this virus for the world. We have very good health care here in the U.S., but what about the 3rd world countries that have healthcare worse than Mexico? The mortality rate there, if it spreads, will be off the charts. My 2 cents.

Guz
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