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Air Force One Backup Rattles New York Nerves

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posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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training exercise...training mission....where have I heard that before?

oh yes, the movie Enemy of the State. Training Mission was the euphemism used to label the chase for the guy who had the film that showed the murder by gov agents! I'm not suggesting that is the reason here, just that it is a bit too convenient. I hope somebody finds out what this training exercise was for. I can see having pilots practice flying AF1 or the chase planes practice chasing, but why did they need to do that in NYC? why the secrecy? something very interesting is hidden in this.




posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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I have to shake my head, on Fox News it was reported that the President expects answers about this in weeks.

No offense but why weeks, they should already know.............. what are they doing?

Oops! forgot we are waking sheeple



posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by observe50
I have to shake my head, on Fox News it was reported that the President expects answers about this in weeks.

No offense but why weeks, they should already know.............. what are they doing?

Oops! forgot we are waking sheeple

Because in weeks, everyone will have forgotten about it when the more malicious happenings start occurring. Swine flu will have picked up greatly by then and all fears are focused on that.



posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by observe50
I have to shake my head, on Fox News it was reported that the President expects answers about this in weeks.

No offense but why weeks, they should already know.............. what are they doing?

Oops! forgot we are waking sheeple


Well he is playing golf, so common give him a break, all that walking from hole to hole does place a lot of stress on ones mental health.



posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 06:51 PM
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You mean a little bit like this?




posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 07:09 PM
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Too stupid...too idiotic to believe the official story.

Like many others have mentioned something is up...don't know what, but something.

Stupid and idiotic like the Bush administration achieving every goal they set out for during their term in office.

Crazy like a fox.



posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 07:37 PM
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Obama is the new Osama. He is telling those in New York that they can do it again and they better shut up about the confiscation of NY wealth.

Way to go... This is indeed the change we wanted. Thak you liberal left... New boss, same as the old boss. I can just see Obama and his starstruck minions getting a real kick out of the phsyops front row in the Oval Office.

[edit on 28-4-2009 by northof8]



posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
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becky....you act as if -- well, actually a lot of you posting act as if this was OBAMA's idea, his and his alone!

Hate to break it to you kids....things like this are decided at different levels. Sheesh!!!

Oh, and becky....the idiot-in-chief who 'flew over' New Orleans after Katrina....yeah, that went well, didn't it??

edit=somebody's heads are gonna roll, in the USAF publicity dept.

[edit on 4/27/0909 by weedwhacker]


It matters little whether it was President Obama's idea or not, because he is the POTUS, the VIP Passenger of Air Force One, and the Commander In Chief of the DOD which conducted this exercise, therefore what occurred is his responsibility. The first rule of being a Commander is that you are fully responsible for any and ALL actions of those under your command, so he must take the responsibility regardless.



posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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Tell you what, if you or I tried a publicity stunt like this, making a spectacular and unannounced low-level flyover of New York City, frightening thousands of citizens to panic, you or I would be in Federal custody right now, facing terrorism charges, and you or I would spend the next 10 years in Federal prison.

Where's the goddamned accountability for this? It's Obama's plane and it's Obama's employees!


— Doc Velocity



posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 09:52 PM
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Well....here's the [sarc-on] evil Commie-hugging left-wing pinko socialist-agenda Obama-loving [sarc-off] MSM's take on it, courtesy of NBC and MSNBC (and, of course, our good friends at utube).......







posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 10:40 PM
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It's an Air Force jet flown by the Air Force. Not a whole lot to do with Obama...

www.youtube.com...

[edit on 28/4/2009 by C0bzz]



posted on Apr, 28 2009 @ 11:41 PM
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Are you tree hugging liberal hippies happy now? Is this the "change" you so desperately wanted? because its trash! Don't come to me with excuses about republicans because I hate them too and hated Bush just as much. But you shortsighted drones ended up electing somebody who is doing the opposite of what this country NEEDS and it hasn't even been 6 months! Hell at least Bush went on vacation and didn't bug the rest of the country until 2001. Sometimes I wish Obama too would also go on a permanent vacation for the remainder of his term.

Honestly, who in their right mind thinks we need some despotic nanny state govt. to take care of everything in our lives? Are you people so d*mn lazy you can't take care of your own d*mn self? Jesus christ I'm starting to wish I had lived in my grandfather's era instead. They didn't need the govt. telling them what to do at every turn and change everybody's diapers! God it's upsetting to see how much this nation is turning into a nation of pu**es!

You think I'm kidding? You think I'm making this stuff up? Take a look at this then:

Life Coaching on Daily Show

Congratulations tree hugging liberal hippies, you systematically helped ruin your country and your country men, hope you're proud of yourselves you sniveling cowards! Hope you'll be happy having Nanny Obama (and any politician for that matter) to help wipe your bum and change your diapers ("OMG! Obama is going to pay my mortgage and my gas! We aint' rich like you bank tellers, but we will be because we have Obama! WHOO!) since you apparently can't do it yourselves



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 01:23 AM
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NOPE, there were no gaskets blown by Olbermann, he seemed more cynical than anything else.

You know damn well if this had happened during Bush's term, Olbermann would not be attacking the Director of the White House Military Office.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 01:34 AM
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Alx....I think you need to see the ENTIRE video....oh, it needs to be tied to the one from tonight, which includes Brian Williams. Look around, for it...they are p**sed off!!! AND, this is the so-called 'left-wing' Media!!



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 01:50 AM
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Yes, I get it, they are pissed off, but not at the President.
That's my point, everytime any of Bush's underlings did anything wrong, these same people attacked Bush, whether it was his fault or not.

Why don't they attack Obama in the same manner?

I guess the buck is too busy getting printed to even consider stopping at the White House.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 02:12 AM
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I tend to criticise the president when he lies to the public, invades a nation and wiretaps people.

I tend to give a rats arse when a plane flies over NYC. I mean, its allowed to..

Obama hasn’t done anything close to warrant the pain George had. Nothing close, and all those people crying because the 'messiah' isn’t being bashed yet need to really just take some reality into that feeble mind.

How about looking in the mirror and stop trying to find anything, no matter how small, minor or irrelevant to use against Obama.




posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 02:22 AM
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I think the intent was clear.

GWB brought a lot of the cascade of ridicule down on himself, all by himself. Didn't need any outside influences to instigate. Need only refer to the 'Bushisms' for examples.

NOW....before we get into the 'Tele-Promptr' controversy...please remember that Bush 43 had the same use of the same technology....problem is, Bush 43 was/is dyslexic. Therefore, his occasional "Deer-in-the-headlights" stare, as the Tele-Promptr cues tried to catch up with is faux pas.

His only response, absent a cue....was to stare aimlessly. THIS is seen on numerous occasions.

Talk about a "puppet"!!!!! I bring, to the Jury, the morning of September 11, 2001. A school room, in Florida. A trusted Aide whispers into your ear, "The Country is Under Attack!" (This, after the second hit on the WTC). YOU are the POTUS.

WHAT would you do?!?

WOULD you sit there? OR, being a 'statesman', would you instead make a very clever excuse to leave the room immediately, and apologize in a way that children would understand, if you knew how children's minds worked.

NO! Instead, you sit there for nearly seven minutes...NOT seconds!! MINUTES!!!!

THIS harkens back to the 'Three-AM Phone call', doesn't it?? Imagine GWB, being awakened at 0300...would he have made a decision in seven minutes??? Or, would it have taken longer????

Reason this is pertinent?? Because the events over Manhattan, (April 2009) while not directly authorized BY the President, ultimately fall into his lap, as pointed out by others on ATS. Just as the "Captain" of the 'Ship', he/she is the CinC. No 'Captain' can have full control of every aspect of his/her underlings, but, irrespective, the responsibility is still fully on the shoulders of the 'highest power'. THIS was a PR debacle, NOT a terrorist event.

Still, as the 'buck' stops....well, cannot argue with logic.

The 'Measure of the Man' will out....



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 07:09 AM
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The US should cut military spending in half...



Washington - Hawks depicted the cuts that Defense Secretary Robert Gates recently proposed for the Pentagon's weapons programs as a savage assault on the military industrial complex. They insisted that Secretary Gates would leave us prostrate before future rivals.


Ooooooooh.... it looks like the "military/industrial complex" just fired a shot back at the Obama Administration. Mess with my "money" and we will "mess" you up by embarrassing da' Prez and his peeps.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 08:15 AM
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I was wrong...


"I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused," Obama said in a statement, adding that he approved the mission over New York -- described by other officials as a photo opportunity -- last week.

So it was the administrations fault... it was the White House Military Office that requested the flight.

Also Air Force 1 does NOT have decoy aircraft, furthermore the schedule of landing is usually publiced prior to the aircraft landing... there was NO need for this secrecy. Air Force 1 refers to any Air Force jet that is carrying the president, this was just one of two presidential transports.

[edit on 29/4/2009 by C0bzz]



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 12:28 PM
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I do know parts of the law fairly well. Off the top of my head, you'd bring a civil suit for negligent infliction of emotional distress. Basically, you'd have to prove that this caused you huge amounts of upset which manifested in a physical way (ie - vomiting). So, the pregnant lady who went into labor early would have a case. Without looking further into this this is the best I can do.

On another note, if this is already posted here please forgive me, there was a woman on the other thread about the plane who claims to be in the airforce for years. If you look at the picture of the fighter jet the tail is painted orange. She said that means it a regular fighter jet outfitted to be a drone. If she is correct that means someone was remote piloting at least the fighter.

Pretty weird if you ask me.

One last thing, as a born and bred NYer this disturbs me to no end. What the @#$!@#$ are they thinking?




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