Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen
Originally posted by Inspiration1911
Here is a response from one of the Doctors in Mexico.
Mexico flu: Your experiences
I work as a resident doctor in one of the biggest hospitals in Mexico City and sadly, the situation is far from "under control". As a doctor, I realise that the media does not report the truth. Authorities distributed VACCINES among all the medical personnel with no results, because two of my partners who worked in this hospital (interns) were killed by this new virus in less than six days even though they were vaccinated as all of us were. The official number of deaths is 20, nevertheless, the true number of victims are more than 200. I understand that we must avoid to panic, but telling the truth it might be better now to prevent and avoid more deaths.
This means that the Doctors who were given the "Anti-viral" Shot died from it anyways. That also means, that the Mexican people probably DIED from taking the Vaccine also...but instead of the Media telling us which people did take the Vaccine & died, they continue to sell it to us.
[edit on 28-4-2009 by Inspiration1911]
I need to correct you on one seemingly misconstrued idea as of recent, and that has to do with the fact that a "Vaccine" is NOT the same thing as an "Anti-Viral" Pharmaceutical Drug/Treatment.
If the Physicians and Medical Personnel in Mexico City died as a result of the ineffectiveness of the current Influenza Vaccine, then that is an obvious factor, seeing as the current Vaccine does NOT cover the latest Flu strain.
Vaccines deliver a minute amount of a Virus to the human body, thus allowing for the natural Antibody system to prepare its own Defense and Attack system in response.
Anti-Virals on the other hand attack the replication of a Virus directly, and thus prevent it from overwhelming the ill-prepared Antibody system within the host's body.
Vaccines condition the Human Immune System Response, whereas the Anti-Virals suppress the Virus in question, which in turn allows for an unconditioned Human Immune System to play catch-up, and to typically take control from there on out.
Vaccines are always administered in Standardized Dosages, whereas Anti-Viral Dosing depends upon the original strength of the Individual's Immune System, and the severity of the attacking Virus.
Originally posted by Inspiration1911
Okay, so the Doctors used VACCINES...Nevertheless, the Doctors STILL DIED from taking the Vaccines which is what their giving out NOW.
Now, my understanding is that this Swine-virus is a mixture of the pig, bird, & human....so far now there is no true vaccine; including Tamiflu which these doctors were probably given which is why they werent being reported & why they DIED.
But thanks for explaining the difference, that info is always good to know.
Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
Rumsfeld or no, I think the fears expressed are a little exaggerated. We are talking 54 cases when Tamiflu is prescribed over 24 million times in Japan alone. Really, the odds of you drowning in your bath are way better than the odds of dying after taking Tamiflu.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday tests involving antiviral drugs Tamiflu and Relenza against the swine flu suggest the drugs would be effective treatments
Originally posted by Nineteen
reply to post by tide88
I wasn't aware of the deaths from Viagra, however given the non-stop advertising on radio, I'm not surprised. A lot of men must be swallowing the stuff like candy.
Hospitals were using the same drug to stop spasms of cerebral blood vessels following aneurysm ruptures long before Viagra came to the market. I can tell you it causes a sudden and very powerful rise in blood pressure. Thus the risk of stroke and heart attacks after taking Viagra seems inevitable.
Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
reply to post by NoArmsJames
Yeah, tamiflu is not killing people, Donald Rumsfeld is.
Lot's and lot's of people.
But now health investigator Patricia Doyle posts on rense.com an analysis of the potential side-effects from this medicine, which may make it even less appropriate for consumption. The list includes, in alphabetical order: aches and pains, allergic reactions (sometimes leading to shock), asthma and aggravation of pre-existing asthma, bronchitis, chest infection, conjunctivitis, dermatitis, diarrhea, difficulty sleeping, dizziness, ear infections and problems, erythema multiforme, headache, hepatitis, indigestion, liver problems, lymphadenopathy, nausea, nose bleed, rash or rashes, runny nose, sinusitis, Stevens Johnson syndrome, symptoms of a cold, tiredness, tummy pain, urticaria, and vomiting.
Moreover, Doyle notes, those with major allergies should also probably avoid Tamiflu, since the capsules also contain the following ingredients: black iron oxide (E172); croscarmellose sodium; FD and C blue 2 (indigo carmine, E132); gelatin; oseltamivir; povidone; pregelatinised maize starch; red iron oxide (E172); shellac; sodium stearyl fumarate; talc; titanium dioxide (E171); yellow iron oxide (E172). The oral suspension liquid, meanwhile, contains: oseltamivir; saccharin sodium (E954); sodium benzoate (E211); sodium dihydrogen citrate (E331 (a)); sorbitol (E420); titanium dioxide (E171); tutti frutti flavor; maltodextrins (maize); propylene glycol; Arabic gum (E414); natural identical flavoring substances (mainly consisting of banana, pineapple and peach flavor); and xantham gum (E415). She also lists several medicines that may have adverse affects while interacting with Tamiflu, including Chlorpropamide, Methotrexate, and Phenylbutazone.
In combination with ascorbic acid (vitamin C, E300), sodium benzoate and potassium benzoate may form benzene, a known carcinogen.