Wow this has now been confirmed as being in New Zealand. It has been upon MSM that there are definitely confirmed cases in NZ . I have had Sky News, BBC News and CNN on for the last few hours and its quite scary how much this is progressing by the hour. I almost dont want to go to bed for fear of seeing very alrming headlines in the morning. I am supposed to travel on Tuesday around Europe with work but i think ill be giving this a miss until all this passes over which i hope it will

I dont know what but i think there will be some very interesting events upon the US/Mexican borders as this thing worsens

I swear, our government is ran by a bunch of morons. How in the hell can they declare an emergency, or even act worried about it and not consider immediate border action?

Come to think of it, an ounce of prevention beats a pound of cure. They should have had our border situation fixed a long time ago.

Gosh, can't wait until they take over our health care and save us all, lol.

Originally posted by Highground
And I may be wrong. I was just speculating, I've never been to Mexico, personally. I just remember some things I've heard from friends that have been there. Thanks for the insight. As I say, I like to be proven wrong, it's a learning experience. Now - I think there's a reason their immune systems would be stronger. I just can't put my finger on it.

The Spanish Flu... Was it from Spain, and was the death toll there considerably larger or smaller than anywhere else? Perhaps they are just more succeptable to certain strains than anyone else because of genetic characteristics.

I just posted this in another thread and it may be relevant

Yes, there are different sections of genes common to different races. And likewise, different proteins or distributions of proteins etc that act as receptors on the surface of some cells.

So in theory if you design a virus that tends only to enter cells with a certain type of protein receptor, then you can target only a certain race.

Now we have a human genome, we'd know what proteins to look for. The only problem would be engineering the virus - in the private sector, we'd be years away from being able to do this as we don't understand the relationship between structure of a virus which we can change (i.e. it's genetic code or genome) and the function of the virus. I.e. - we don;t know which bits of DNA to change to make the thing only target certain proteins.

That's not to say the military hasn't funded private projects for biowarefare which have cracked this. I'd even go as far to say that this might be an area they would be very interested in and have probably looked into.

Basically, I was looking at how viruses could be genetically engineered to target one race only. But it's not unreasonable to think that for the reasons I describe above, a virus could have a natural tendency to attack some people of certain races with more vigour than others.

Originally posted by Dutty_Rag


Basically, I was looking at how viruses could be genetically engineered to target one race only. But it's not unreasonable to think that for the reasons I describe above, a virus could have a natural tendency to attack some people of certain races with more vigour than others.

i would look in the direction of common foods,witch involve chemicals in those foods,inoculations that are given at birth..Both of these are what ''mixologists'' can work out a drug to intergrate with or without..thats how I would suspect ''They'' could target a particular region or country..

[edit on 26-4-2009 by Redpillblues]

Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
So far I havn't heard of any negro people getting the virus? Nor any asians or whites getting any serious symptoms like the hispanics. This does look very suspicious indeed :-/

I can't think of a reason why. I doubt it has anything to do with race, it probably has more to do with local health care, immunizations throughout their lives, heat, and other factors.

Also, call black people black. When someone says 'negro' it's because they are afraid to say 'black' fearing it is a bad word or something, thereby giving it the negative connotation you were trying to avoid in the first place. Just saying.

Originally posted by fleabit

Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
So far I havn't heard of any negro people getting the virus? Nor any asians or whites getting any serious symptoms like the hispanics. This does look very suspicious indeed :-/

I can't think of a reason why. I doubt it has anything to do with race, it probably has more to do with local health care, immunizations throughout their lives, heat, and other factors.

Also, call black people black. When someone says 'negro' it's because they are afraid to say 'black' fearing it is a bad word or something, thereby giving it the negative connotation you were trying to avoid in the first place. Just saying.

Sorry if that may have caused offence. Negro is just the term we use in our house and always have. I wasn't trying to cause or avoid offence, it's just what we call coloured folk, no implications positive or negative intended...

This is just one more thing that shows we must shut down the boarder and stop the flow of Illegal alians comming from Mexico, I am willing to bet this came across the boarder with an illegal, then infected some one who ended up in an airport.

truth is virus's are more apt to apear in places where people live in filth, was there really any suprise that Aids started in Africa, and I am not suprised some super bug started in Mexico either. Secure boarders is not just about crime, and jobs its also about public health.

Originally posted by Verd_Vhett
This is just one more thing that shows we must shut down the boarder and stop the flow of Illegal alians comming from Mexico, I am willing to bet this came across the boarder with an illegal, then infected some one who ended up in an airport.

truth is virus's are more apt to apear in places where people live in filth, was there really any suprise that Aids started in Africa, and I am not suprised some super bug started in Mexico either. Secure boarders is not just about crime, and jobs its also about public health.

Really want to emphasise as this has been said before and could end up as misinfo...

Mexicans do not live in filth, despite some American perceptions. This started in Mexico City, which is pretty much along the same lines as LA or New York when it comes to sanitation, healthcare, poverty, homelessness etc...

The cases in the US are mild with no deaths. Could it be that two viruses were let loose. One that kills fast and the other that when you get it prevents you from getting the deadly one? Imagine being vaccinated by someone coughing on you.

This thing is intended to spread and that is why it is appearing all over the world all at once. It's just like what happened in the book "The Stand" by Stephen King. Once let loose it is a monster all it's own.

Precautions the CDC isn't telling you, at least not so much.

1. When a person coughs do not inhale and leave the area.

2. Wash your hands very often.

3. Do not insert your fingers into your nose or mouth or touch your eyes unless you know they are clean.

4. Stay away from events with many people.

They may need all those FEMA coffins after all. Wait..! they issued an alert like if a hurricane is coming. Expect a flu hurricane in less than a week. I hope we all survive it, especially if this is for population control.

Then again it could be just a test.. a dry run.

I've followed ATS for several years and have never before felt like I had anything to contribute, but I made an account to provide an update regarding this epidemiological disaster.

My sister is a volunteer American doctor working in León, Guanajuato. She has personally seen over 100 patients in the last 3 days exhibiting flu symptoms. She estimated that the clinic she works at has seen over 400 patients. This is about 20 times the number of flu patients they would typically see in a similiar period. They are rationing antivirals to children and elderly and providing surgical masks to the families of those infected. She can confirm 7 flu related deaths. The only good news is that there is very little panic and the population is complying very well with the hygiene and public safety orders.

The "official" mexican report of the number of infections account for 0 in Leon. Draw your own conclusions, but this seems to already be epidemic and HIGHLY contagious. Remember there is a 4-7 day incubation period, and a disease thats doubling in population every 48-72 hours.

Good luck.