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Topic started on 26-4-2009 @ 03:06 PM by FredT

US declares public health emergency for swine flu


news.yahoo.com
WASHINGTON – The U.S. declared a public health emergency Sunday to deal with the emerging new swine flu, much like the government does to prepare for approaching hurricanes.

Officials reported 20 U.S. cases of swine flu in five states so far, with the latest in Ohio and New York. Unlike in Mexico where the same strain appears to be killing dozens of people, cases in the United State have been mild — and U.S. health authorities can't yet explain why.

"As we continue to look for cases, we arWASHINGTON – The U.S. declared a public health emergency Sunday to deal with the emerging ne
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reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 03:15 PM by jhill76
reply to post by FredT



I agree about the border. But, I think if it has hit this many people in the U.S. it will only spread to more and more people now.

This will be an interesting story to follow.



reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 03:38 PM by tothetenthpower
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Although I would agree that a quarantine is warranted, I don't think it should be the whole nation. The most effected areas such as Mexico City and others should be quarantined but other parts of the nation that are otherwise "healthy" should be able to come and go as they please.

Let's not forget this is still in it's early stages. We might see this thing die off completely in a few weeks, just like SARS did a few years ago.

~Keeper


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 03:40 PM by Peruvianmonk
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If your going to Qurantine Mexico, then why not the U.S? It is in several states now so cannot be stopped if it aggresively spreads itself.


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 03:48 PM by spec_ops_wannabe
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I would agree it would be needed to quarantine the US as much as Mexico, so far we only have confirmed cases in a few locations. There are more cases in Mexico since that's where it started.
The ones here in the States can be more easily taken care of by restricting the people with the confirmed cases to isolated centers until all is said and done. Can you say FEMA camps?


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 03:57 PM by Peruvianmonk
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It is very difficult to impossible to actually contain an outbreak like this, the only hope there is it that it dies out naturally. Now i am not convinced it is a staged event although it is a possability. I would think if it were staged the virus would have kept its strength and not weaken as it appears to have in crossing the border to the U.S and other reported cases round the world.

I suppose its too early to tell and it may well mutate into a more virulant strain again at any point. Lets just hope it doesn't.


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 04:01 PM by UmbraSumus
Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
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post by spec_ops_wannabe




If your going to Qurantine Mexico, then why not the U.S? It is in several states now so cannot be stopped if it aggresively spreads itself.



Exactly .

It would seem the genie is out of the bottle .

Airports are the real worry both in relation to internal flights within the U.S and international flights.

Ain`t globalisation fun

A pig coughs in Mexico and the ramifications could be global .

All joking aside , there may be something good to come out of the fact that the American`s suffering from this swine flu do not seem to be effected as badly , why ? .

I know vaccinations are not the flavour of the month on ATS , but is it possible that the American citizens are benefiting from some heretofore unknown benefit from inoculation (for something else), that Mexican citizens do not receive.
Just a speculative punt .


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 04:02 PM by spec_ops_wannabe
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You will have to keep in mind how different the environments are in Mexico and the USA regions that have been infected. The warmer climates may be what the virus needs in order to be effective whereas it may lose it's strength as it moves northward to cooler climates in the States. So it may not even be losing it's strength but just that it's not as effective here.


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 04:18 PM by LeAto
Its a little late for quarantine procedures at national levels... 4-7 day incubation times... Flight attendants to Heathrow already testing positive for an Influenza-A strain... First cases in Mexico being reported back in late march... Potential cases in NZ...(citations for all this info can be found within the www.abovetopsecret.com... from who/cdc/national ministries of health, sorry for being lazy and not reciting them all directly here for you) Local containment procedures should be implemented in accordance with cdc guidelines... If this is going to be a firestorm of sorts then its already to late to think about national quarantines for the US and Mexico, all it will do is further terrify the general populace and make the economic hardships already being faced more difficult to overcome...

~ LeAto


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 04:36 PM by FredT
reply to post by munkey66



Fatalities in Mexico seem to be more oriented towards lack of access to health care as opposed to say a genetic factor etc.

Mexico gets a alot of bad press buts it does posses a modern health care system but a huge chunk of its population may not be able to access it is the real issue.

Also while climate may be making a difference more liekly they are simply further into thier outbreak than we are.


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 04:44 PM by pluckynoonez
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Quarantines do not work. The human condition will not allow it. No one wants to be around sick people; hence the rage and violence to get away.


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 04:45 PM by UmbraSumus
reply to post by LeAto



If my memory serves me, you have technical knowledge in these matters?

Doesn`t the influenza virus have a waxy coating that hardens in the lower temperature, protecting it when outside the body.


forgive me if i`m way out on that .

[edit on 26-4-2009 by UmbraSumus]
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