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Canada May Have First Cases of Swine Flu

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posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 12:20 PM

Canada May Have First Cases of Swine Flu

Sources say the cases have turned up in Nova Scotia and British Columbia.

Lab results show people infected with unidentifiable influenza A viruses. Swine flu is so new that most laboratories don't have tests to identify them as such.

It appears that Nova Scotia has three cases in people with a travel link to Mexico. B.C. has reportedly found a pair of cases, but it's not known if there's a Mexican link there.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 12:20 PM
Dear GOD
I am in full alert mode right now

I wish everyone here the best of hopes in the fight against govt. bio-terroism.


"Natural Antivirals
Submitted by Health Gazette on Thu, 2006-05-11 08:55. Alternative Medicine
Regular readers know that I have no time for the nonsense relating to imagined bird-flu pandemics. However. I regarded the following item of sufficient novelty to be of some interest. You may judge its merits for yourself.

Research suggests certain natural foods may be as effective against virus H5N1 as commercial antivirals.

(PRWEB) May 10, 2006 -- A Biology teacher from Australia, named Stephen Jones, has done extensive research into the H5N1 virus and compiled a list of natural foods that are effective against it and listed others that are detrimental.

The list may come as a surprise to many people since foods such as spirulina and echinacea are listed as detrimental. This strange occurrence is largely due to the fact that the virus is immune to 2 cytokines that the body produces (TNF-a and IL-6). Cytokines are compounds produced by the body’s immune system that attack and remove foreign bodies. The problem is that when a foreign body is immune to certain cytokines, the body sees that its immune response is not working and tries even harder, which can lead to what is called a cytokine storm, where the body becomes flooded with these compounds and they eventually destroy the body itself. Foods such as Echinacea actually stimulate the production of these specific cytokines; hence consuming it is not a good idea if one suspects they may have the virus.

During the 1918 Spanish Flu many healthy young people died from cytokine storms due to their immune systems overreacting. Consuming foods which suppress the production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6 and enhance the production of the ones that actually are effective against the virus will aid the patient greatly.

Other foods that create mucous in the respiratory tract, such as bananas, are also listed as detrimental due to the fact that the predominant breeding ground of the virus is the respiratory tract and another way in which a patient may suffer is due to the body's over production of mucous in this area.

Folk Medicines and Herbs to use and avoid with Bird Flu

Below is a list of foods that are said to contain substances that are natural antivirals, immune boosters or they decrease cytokines TNF-a and IL-6.

Alternative medications that are most likely to help us during a severe pandemic:

Garlic (allicin) - Very effective antiviral. Best if fresh (raw) and crushed. Must be consumed within 1 hour of crushing. Dosage is initially 2 to 3 cloves per day but later reduce until no body odour occurs. No toxic effects noted. (Pubmed PMID 9049657)

Vitamin C - Boosts the immune system and is an antiviral by blocking the enzyme neuraminadase. Viruses need neuraminadase to reproduce. There are anecdotal stories of people taking large amounts of Vitamin C (children ½) surviving the Spanish Flu. Research shows that it may reduce the production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. A study on 470 people involved giving the test group 1000 mg hourly for 6 hours and then 1000 mg 3 times daily after reporting flu symptoms. Symptoms decreased by 85%. (Pubmed PMID 10543583, 634178, 16169205, 12876306)

Green Tea (possible Tamiflu/Relenza alternative)- Very effective antiviral. Also decreases the production of the cytokine (catechins) TNF-a. Inhibits neuraminidase. May have antiviral activity that is equal to other antivirals such as Tamiflu. (Pubmed PMID 16137775)

St Johns Wort (Hypericum) - Very effective antiviral. Also decreases the production of the cytokine IL-6. Hypericum is an extract from St John’s Wort. There have been some very successful field trials in commercial flocks infected with H5N1 in Vietnam. (Pubmed PMID 7857513, 11518071, 11362353, 7857513, 11518071)

Vitamin E - Immune booster. Also decreases the production of the cytokine TNF-a. (Pubmed PMID 155882360, 10929076) Experiments involved using mice. Very suitable for immune compromised people, especially the elderly. Effects enhanced when taken with Vitamin C.

Apple Juice - Antiviral. Fresh apple juice including the pulp and skin has greater antiviral activity than heated commercial apple juice. More research is needed. Effectiveness on H5N1 is unknown. (Pubmed PMID 32832, 12452634)

Resveratrol - Antiviral. In addition to inhibiting neuraminidase, Resveratrol also sends a message to cells to stop manufacturing viruses. This is a proven antiviral found naturally in red wine, peanuts, mulberries, Japanese Knotwood root (richest source), raisins and red grapes. Resveratrol supplements are relatively inexpensive, are more stable than wine and is available in liquid form for absorption in the mouth. No toxic effects noted. (Pubmed PMID 1583880, 12817628, 15985724)

Scuttellaria (Skullcap) - Antiviral. A herb used as a tea. It has no side effects and is also a mild tranquilliser. Research suggests neuraminidase, which is a substance needed by the H5N1 virus to reproduce, may be inhibited.

Cranberry Juice - Early research shows that it may be an antiviral, making viruses less able to invade or multiply. Effectiveness on H5N1 is unknown. (Pubmed PMID15781126)

Cat’s Claw (Uncaria tomentosa) - Decreases the production of the cytokine TNF-a. Also boosts immune system. The number of white blood cells was significantly increased during treatment. No toxicity was noted. (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g......) Active constituents can be found in the leaves, bark, vine, and roots. Water extraction from bark used. Children and pregnant women are to avoid. Has a potentially damaging effect on the DNA of proliferating cells. (cancers, foetuses, growing children)

Curcumin (Tumeric Spice) - Decreases the production of the cytokine TNF-a. This is the yellow compound in turmeric spice. Research shows that this may be very good for preventing a cytokine storm although this is not proven. Must be taken with food or gastritis or peptic ulcers may occur. Pregnant women and feeding mothers should avoid this. The medicinal properties of curcurnin cannot be utilised when used alone due to rapid metabolism in the liver and intestinal wall. When combined with Piperine found in black pepper the absorption is increased with no adverse effects. Obtainable from health stores in tablets, liquid, capsules already combined with piperine. Dosage is 500mg to 4000mg daily.

Astragalus root (Astragali Radix) - Boosts immune system. (Pubmed PMID15588652)

Tea tree Steam Inhalation - Reduces the cytokine TNF-a. Add 2 drops of tea tree oil in a bowl of steaming water. Cover head with a towel and inhale for 5 to 10 minutes. Relieves congestion and fights infection. Its effectiveness is unknown. (Pubmed PMID 11131302)

The following substances may be best to avoid during a H5N1 pandemic

Elderberry juice (Sambucal) - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. This substance is very effective against the common flu but may not be desirable for the H5N1 virus. Increases in these cytokines may trigger a lethal cytokine storm. (Isr Med Journal2002 Nov;4:944-6)

Micro Algae (Chlorella and Spirulina) - AVOID - Increases production of cytokine TNF-a. (Pubmed PMID 11731916)

Honey - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. (Pubmed PMID12824009)

Chocolate - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. (Pubmed PMID 12885154, PMID 1091792

Echinacea - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. Although it is often used for normal flu, research shows that it may increase the chance of cytokine storms for H5N1. (Pubmed PMID 15556647, 9568541)

Kimchi - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. (Pubmed PMID15630182)

Dairy products & Bananas - AVOID - These foods increase mucous production.

References: (search using Pubmed ID number listed after each food) "
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posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 12:32 PM
I dont think this will be as serious as people think it will be.


What makes you think it is a bio attack from our own governments? is the avian flu? was the spanish 1918 flu? was sars? is foot and mouth?

Government assisted bio terrorism attacks...that claim 20 lives. little far off the mark no?


this will blow over in a couple months. avian flu scare lasted....1 summer?


when people are telling us to get out of the cities i'll take it seriously. I mean 10 people out of 250,000,000 have been infected with this flu. is this really a pandemic?


i'll take paranoia for 250 alex.

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posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 12:38 PM
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Homeland security is responding tonight
which means FEMA

it's not about what you think right now
it's about how much "they" are pushing it

posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 12:52 PM
reply to post by ModernAcademia

There is a case of a Cornwall man getting it and being transported to Ottawa.I am too lazy right now but it was on the cbc website.
I have also heard it is in Montreal as well.
Ottawa is my city and Montreal is yours.
The good news is the guy who got it in Cornwall was a lawyer.

posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 01:10 PM
reply to post by ModernAcademia

You are in Montreal, I've heard there are 2 cases there. I'm in N.S. and we have 3 cases. Fun stuff.

posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 01:44 PM
That's kind of terrifying, considering that I live in NB. CNN is reporting that

Canada confirmed its first cases of swine flu on Sunday, with four people said to have the virus in the eastern province of Nova Scotia, health officials said.

Dr. Robert Strang, Nova Scotia's chief public health officer, said the cases were among students who had recently traveled to Mexico.


So yeah, I am a little bit worried.


[edit on 4/26/2009 by tothetenthpower]

posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 01:50 PM
This shouldn't be too bad. We learned a LOT from SARS. Universal precautions were drastically increased and handling infection has gotten MUCH better.

posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 04:56 PM
reply to post by ModernAcademia

I live in BC in the Lower Mainland and we now have 2 confirmed cases of Swine Flu both of which the infected were recently in Mexico and are now recovering from mild cases. There are also 4 confirmed cases in Nova Scotia. There are 17 teachers and students under quarantine in NS at the moment as well as the 4 confirmed cases

[edit on 26-4-2009 by caithness cat]

posted on Apr, 26 2009 @ 07:00 PM
ya the cases in Montreal were from people who just came from Mexico.
They were quanrantined at lakeshore hospital
which is about 40mins from me

But it ended up being a false alarm

However CDC said that every city will have different reactions as if every city has a different variant of this man made piece of %$*%

posted on Apr, 27 2009 @ 12:06 PM
BC resident here... kinda scary how the flu started out in NY, Cali, and Texas, and than started out in BC and NS... all opposite ends of their respective countries....

My dad was in Mexico a few weeks ago, but atm hes not exhibiting any symptoms. I'm hoping this will all blow over like the SARS scare

Stay safe people...

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