Originally posted by Indigo_Child
[edit on 26-4-2009 by Indigo_Child]
To my view, whatever and whomever the Aryians were...what remains is that all the knoweldge they possessed, the way of life they lived and all it was
or might have been is gone. Same applying to the Sumerian culture. The fragments of culture and remnants of history that remain are important
yes..but taken in isolation from the wider context and message they represent, they are easy tools for more division, more fighting and more self
Nothing either of these cultures learned, were taught or managed to produce stopped them from massacaring each other into oblivion on what you call
the phenomenal plane or spared them from apparent celestial intervention and devestation. ( Supernova catastrophy 12000BC)
Crypto historical records provide some evidence that these peoples may have wiped themselves and nearly everyone else out too, in a bloody global
conflageration: LINK: www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
Whatever they may have been, the existance of these text demonstrates that they didnt evolve past brutality..neither of them. They didnt evolve past
the need or desires of ego for warfare or military and spiritual defence, neither of them, or past killing, or dying, they didnt evolve or invent a
solution to the being a 'human being' problem - period....either of them.
They and cultures recorded at the time who lived right across North America, India and Europe, all simply, died, and did so in what I suspect was a
myriad of horrible ways that are most likely just as gross and barbaric as todays warfare is.
An ancient battle just of this type is described in the Drona Parva, a section of the Mahabharata. LINK:
These text show *humans* acting out in grief and pain - warring. Just like *humans* of today. The presentation of language may be different, how they
saw themselves and the world around or within them may also be different but they were just like us. Not objects for or of veneration...not gods..not
supernatural..they were very much, and beautifully, just our fellow humans.
So to me, arguments over who died first, who were the better or superior culture or who pushed the button that began the wars that ended these
cultures is, to me, a moot point and waste of energy, as none survive to this day who are enabled to truthfully speak of it - no one alive today was
'in the room' at that time as an objective observer who can report honestly about it today. All there is is speculation, and biased, fragments of
text. Biased not meaning untruthful, only biased by the affiliation of the writers and the loss or distortion of the original context due to the
passage of time since the events and the specific needs of the readers of the text themslves.
Languages alone are also not a key to the "superiorty" or even the origins of races. Firstly as immigration would have been just as confusing and
disorderly then as now, and to extrapolate, no one today makes any portent now that English as a global language is the 'best language' on
earth...it's merely the simplest..a language of commerce used by many as a convenience. And secondly, because we have grown since that time,
scientifically and in maturity, to a point where we do and can accept that we are already are all one race - the human one. More, most people can
acheive that conclusion quite readily and without the need for philosophical, historical or religous artifaces to support it or indoctrinate the
message. Unmolested by the same, it is a 'self evident' truth.
So whatever the individual and cultural differing expressions of our human genome and dna, .it - the obvious- is already widely held among most
people. We already know we are of the *same* body, the same dna being expressed in a multitude of varieties. Most accept today, innately, that in the
human race, there is no better or worse superior or inferior..only 'different'. This is what Hitlar failed to grasp, what all supremsists and racists
ignore, and we all know the consequences of that.
You write Indigo of your belief in non seperation and of unified divinity but from my view you are not practicing that belief when you go about
upholding Aryan over Sumerian. You seem to acknowledge that we are, one body regardless of our racial differences on one hand.but then raise a single
finger or organ of that body as superior to all others. It feels misleading..contradictory. It undermines your postion.
In analogous reasoning, you appear to be upholding the mind or tongue as superior rulers of the body..yet we know too well that if the anus closes,
the body as a whole withers and dies....so in truth, no matter how good or righteous or right we think we are by our location within the body...we are
still all ruled by an as*h*le.
Perhaps that message, that we are already one, simply learning to live and be as
one, was lost at that time in history too...that and the
necessity of any adherent to a defined philosopical perpsective to enact the actions of belief as oposed to the more passive route of believing in
If the cycle of self interest and political infighting is going to continue to be bogged down by what is really, our ego and human pettyness, then
what they suffered and endured, the message they really left us by their lives and deaths - an inevitable or unavoidable confrontation with oblivion -
is potentially our fate too.
It is a good thing I think to learn about the past..to exa mine it and learn from it most certainly...but to live in it, or renact it - isnt.
To try and revive it, to me, is just a waste of the present opportunity.
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