reply to post by Hanslune
Hans: If you were truly visionary and an Iconoclast you wouldn’t be using these two pieces of technology, English and the Internet – why do
you do so?
Normally I would spit answers out with little effort, without much thought, as can be attested to by those who have followed my writings over the
years, knee jerk responses. But for you I will do my utmost to put as much thought as my half brain can muster. Yes, I am fully aware of my
"Creators" built in limitations.
"English and the Internet" as far as I understand them, are not institutions. As much as some might try to control the masses threw them, they are
still tools to communicate with. I would agree, English may not be the most efficient language to communicate with but it is the language most people
will understand and can work with. The internet is a channel of communication that will again, be able to reach the masses in a more open and
uncontrolled manner, unlike the highly controlled mass media to include TV, Movies, Radio, Printed Press, Magazines, Books ect. It is a new found
avenue of freedom in a world of slavery, which will lead to my next point.
We, who live on this planet, have never really been free, to be all we could be. We have always been ruled threw secrecy and psychology to always
fall into one mold or another. Granted, there are many molds we do have the freedom to choose, but only the ones the "Institutions" create for us.
It is the norm in the educational institution to prepare a person to study only one main topic at a time, and usually it is drawn out to take ones
life time to complete its study. You are free to take up as many of these "disciplines" as you like, but to be efficient in them would take you a
few more lifetimes to complete. We, at best, are looking at a highly compartmentalized stacked deck against us, because we are born with half a
brain, destine to live 80 to 100 years at best. We are born to fail.
(quote)Hans: I was kidding, but why not discuss your original visionary and iconoclast thoughts with real scientists and convert them to your
way.(/quote)Just as a side note, "kidding" is a form of "fantasy" made to reveal a inward thought, as my uncle said to me a long time ago, you kid
about whats really on a persons mind. I have found his words to be true over the years.
I do not want to classify all "scientists" in the same mold so I would stress there are some free thinkers out there who are not bound by the
"discipline" of their choice. But one must agree, Free Thinking scientists are the ones who will have their "Grants" pulled from them, or their
discoveries blackballed in the media because they dare to go against the "Institution" of their "Discipline". If you go against the institution,
you will be "disciplined"!!! You suggest that I, a slave, go to another "Slave", and tell him he is not dealing with his slavery in a
intellectual manner, and that he needs to look at some things I have discovered about our mutual slavery? Who am I to point out he has been lied to
from the very beginning, and besides that, he is most likely a "Half Brain-er" like myself" and by birth too stupid to open his eyes and realized
who and what he really is.
Now, lets throw into the mix these people who sell their souls and join secret societies who work tirelessly to enforce the "Discipline" and to
highlight the free minded so he will be watched and blackballed at the proper time. Of course, these secret agents, these traitors to humanity are
installed in positions of influence and power because the "Institution" was created to control and manipulate the free thinker, and keep him in a
"Intellectual" prison the remainder of his natural life, and I do mean Natural, for that will bring me to the next point.
As Simon Cromwell said to Shaheen Jafargholi in Britons Got Talent, "You got this really wrong"
This is the state of "knowledge" in the world today. Outside of our vision the
truth is that little school boy Shaheen, is actually a paid and trained actor who has performed in many TV series, and for Simon not to know this, is
impossible. But this is the nature of this "Institution" illusions and out and out lies, but what is different in any of the "Institutions", to
include Religion. You got this really wrong in the beginning. Which came first, the "Bonobos", or the Divine Spirit? It is all reversed from
virtually the beginning. Where is the scientific "Institution" that deals with the origins and creation of mankind, both physical, and spiritual?
They are separated into anthropology and mythology based religion and totally at war with each other. In their view one or the other must be correct.
Was it "evolution" or "creationism". For the way the institution is set up, it MUST be one or the other, no middle ground is allowed. The
institution sets up the intellectual battle ground and creates the rules of engagement. Again, it is a stacked deck. To answer the question as to
which came first, you as a person must decide what the odds are of this world being in existence in the first place. You do not build a car in one
day, nor are you completely aware of what the finished product will look like. It take a great deal of "THOUGHT" before you can create anything, to
include not only a automobile, but a "Bonobos" as well. The car might go threw a process of "Evolution", before your "creation", is ready to be
"inhabited" by a cousin of ours, the Bonobos.
Hans: Humans seem quite capable of doing this themselves. No outsiders are needed. Our cousins the Bonobos and Chimps act much like ourselves,
with their envy, jealous and even wars.
A automobile will always be a automobile, with all of its strengths an weakness. It is only when a human BEING enters the car, can it be something
else. You can use that car for good purposes or you can use it for selfish reasons. The choice belongs to the driver. Bonobos and Chimps, in my
humble opinion are nothing more than a automobile set in autopilot, who can only follow the orders it was provided when it was created. And those
orders come in the form of instinct. They have very little choice in how they will respond in any given situation. They were given these orders in
the event they found themselves in the worst case scenario of survival. They have little choice when food is scarce and given few choices, must
follow what comes naturally, instinct. Mankind on the other hand, for the most part, is that souped up Bonobos with all the whistles and bells like
"speech", "empathy", "Emotions", and "Choice". Were automobiles created to just sit in a lot? Were humans created to just sit, in a tree?
No outsiders needed? You are correct, if you view this world threw the eyes of some one or thing that has not the spirit, or the driver. You would
view this spirit, this soul, this ghost, as a alien entity who constantly inhabits your creations, to the point of total and complete freedom,
something that frightens you to no end, because deep inside you are jealous to the point of insanity because you can not experience what this
"spirit" does. You can never know all of these "Choices" or to live forever in another state of being. You must try to control this alien entity
by any means possible, and since you created them in the first place, you already know what "Instincts" can be used to manipulate this spirit into
choices you would prefer it make. You would never allow them to know who and what they really are because you know they were created, to take your
place, and as the old book says, inherit the earth. I say, it has always been about, outsiders, who are really from the, inside
Hans: I’ve been here several years ~ the owners, AFAIK live within the hollow world. I suspect they love me dearly.
I would have to
say, good for you, and I mean that in the best way. But there are some of us who have fallen from the family's graces because we see things
differently and become the black sheep because the family just cant seem to accept new trains of thought, and leave the "industrial Institutions"
Hans: One could say the same for any number of sci-fi books – perhaps HG Wells' War of the world actually happened and ‘THEY’ are hiding
it from us?
I will go back to the subject of love in a minute, I just want to bring up a possibility about this war you speak of.
Today, for the most part, wars are created for the consumption of the masses, and to keep them occupied as a defense for the owners of the surface
world, and of course profit for the lesser of the intellectuals. It was the kings of old who plotted wars to keep their subjects occupied so they
would not realize they were slaves to the crown. It was the banks who reaped the profits. Both King and bank retained their status and power, a win
win situation. It had to be this way otherwise the king would have arrested the bankers. The bank uses the king as a puppet, to loose his head and
play the part of the patsy.
There is sufficient information now available to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a global catastrophe did occur in the past, and as far as we
know, maybe even more. What we are lacking is the specifics that lead up to this war. What was this war about, ownership of the slaves? Profits?
Or maybe who or what would play the role of god. It is also obvious that a certain number of "Family Members" were cast out of the garden, why?
Were they cast out because they did not agree with the status quot? Did they refuse to bow to the lord god of the bible, or to the king? Did these
fallen angels anger the god and king because they dare to create a new life? Or maybe they dared to suggest that the "Smoky God" Cont below.
[edit on 10-9-2009 by All Seeing Eye]