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Swine Flu news and updates thread

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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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Yayy!!!!!!!

Compassionate people on ATS



Thanks!!

I've been inside a lot this last ...uh...decade, and haven't taken vit-d in a year or so now. Thanks for the mention! I have drops which each contain 1,000iu, so will proly just splash a dropper full and see what comes of it.




posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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Ouchies, no wonder you're getting sick!

Did you know you need viamin D in order to utelise calcium?
And without calcium you get tension, arrhythmias, cramps and weakened bones?

Take plenty. Unless you suffer from hyperparathyroidism I'd suggest you take 500,000 i.u. divided into 4 doses, as a once-off. Being a storable fat soluble vitamin, occasional large doses work as well as frequent small ones.

Good luck.



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 06:49 PM
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Swine flu: 200 fight for life as number of patients in intensive care doubles in a week
www.dailymail.co.uk...

* Fears virus has grown more virulent over last year
* NHS managers draw up emergency plans to tackle outbreak

Nearly 200 swine flu victims were fighting for their lives last night. The number of patients in intensive care has doubled in a week and many of them are either elderly or pregnant. Seventeen of the 190 are being kept alive by highly-specialised heart and lung machines – three times the usual number.

Glad to see the old thread is still kicking,,,

This don't sound good...

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posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 06:54 PM
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This is seriously the weirdest bug I've ever had in my life. It keeps seeming to go, then coming back with a bit different symptoms.

The first few days --

headache/pressure in specific area's of head
dizzyness
lack of focus

Next few --

fever
chills
cough
stomachache
dizzyness
lack of focus
fatigue

Recently --

ear infection
headaches that come and go
Alternating feeling better worse in about 12 hour cycles
Sometimes I wake up feeling better, then maybe early after start getting lack of focus and dizzyness


This is about day 10 now. I don't recall ever having something last this long. It's never been severe, really...it's just bothering me that it's lingering so long. Reminds me of what some people said of swine flu last year of being sick for two weeks, then it came back a month later much worse.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:35 PM
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Flu: 300 In Intensive Care After Cases Double
news.sky.com...

More than 300 people are in intensive care with flu in England, Government figures have shown.

It is unclear how many of the 302 patients have swine flu but they are thought to be in the majority.

Health Secretary Andrew Lansley said the NHS can cope with an upsurge after the number of critical cases almost doubled in a week.


Spike In Young ICU H1N1 Cases In UK Raises Concerns
www.recombinomics.com...

Recombinomics Commentary 17:00
December 21, 2010

As of Monday, there were 24 children under five in critical care with confirmed or suspected flu, another 12 aged five to 15, and 243 in the 16 to 64 age group. There were also 23 people aged over 65 in critical care.


H1N1 Death Cluster In Bury Near Manchester Raises Concerns
www.recombinomics.com...

Recombinomics Commentary 17:00
December 21, 2010

Another two people have died from swine flu – bringing the number of confirmed victims of the virus in Greater Manchester this winter to seven.

A woman, from Bury, died at Rochdale Infirmary after being struck down with the H1N1 bug. NHS chiefs said she had underlying health problems.

A man, also from Bury, died around two weeks ago but tests have only just shown that the cause was swine flu. As previously reported in the M.E.N, a Manchester man, a woman from Bolton, two men from Oldham and a man from Rochdale have died after contracting swine flu in recent weeks.

A child from Bury, who was described as being critically ill last week, is still being treated for the H1N1 virus.

...And so it begins...again...
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posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 01:22 PM
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Alaming Rate of Severe H1N1 Cases In UK
www.recombinomics.com...

Recombinomics Commentary 16:05
December 22, 2010

Cases have risen to 87.1 per 100,000 people, from 32.8 in the previous week.

Rates of flu are highest in children aged between 5 and 14, followed by children under four, and those aged between 15 and 44.

Rates have also increased in adults aged between 45 and 64, says the weekly bulletin from the Royal College of GPs.

The above comments have the latest ILI figures for the UK, which show a marked rise in the past two weeks. However, these levels are still well below levels from last season which peaked at levels close to 300, or more than 3 fold higher than the levels cited above. Thus, in spite of these relatively low rates for the population as a whole, the 302 ICU cases are well above the peak of 180 cases reported for last season.

These figures indicate the H1N1 in circulation is markedly more virulent than last season, and the spike in ICU and ECMO cases, including those without underlying conditions, threatens health care delivery, especially for the most severe cases.

I wonder how many ECMO Machines they can gather and if they will be enough as the Flu Season has barely started...
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posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
...I wonder how many ECMO Machines they can gather and if they will be enough as the Flu Season has barely started...


Exactly, because the below taken from the above quote seems to lead the average viewer (who is incapable of holding many variables in mind at once, and therefore unable to grasp larger contextual views) to conclude that this flu season is comparatively less of a worry ::




However, these levels are still well below levels from last season which peaked at levels close to 300, or more than 3 fold higher than the levels cited above.


When taking in the totality of the article you linked, it truly seems as if this season/wave may be the beginnings of what we most feared of last years novel h1n1 strain.

What I'm most concerned about is the fact that the flu got so much attention last season; both in support of awareness towards it's potential threat, and also against the notion it would turn out as a true pandemic. Regardless of the causation to these seemingly established beliefs, the thought that this years flu season could be under hyped at our peril is what really trips me out.
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posted on Dec, 24 2010 @ 08:59 AM
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Sharp rise in serious flu cases prompts jab questions
www.bbc.co.uk...

There has been a 50% rise in the past three days in the number of seriously ill people in hospital with flu, figures show.

Department of Health data from Thursday showed that 460 intensive care beds in England were occupied by flu patients, compared to 302 on Monday.

Doctors shocked by spread of swine flu – and its severity
www.independent.co.uk...

UK: Reports of Approximately 31 Deaths and 460 Patients in intensive care (27 deaths confirmed by HPA as for Dec. 23 2010) due to influenza
www.flutrackers.com...
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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 03:16 PM
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We'll see what happens after this cold Christmas spell. So far, the numbers in the U.S. haven't been bad. I've seen just a slight increase in the number of ambulances.-

www.webmd.com...



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 03:26 PM
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I aint sure what i've had, whether its Swine Flu or Flu A,B,C but these are/were my symptoms. I'm onto day 4 (nearly 5) and i'm feeling better. Just have a sore head when i cough, still have sore eyes and finding it hard to focus them properly.

The Flu came on within a couple of hours, feeling fine then straight to super ill, it Started off with...

Day 1
Severe Chills
High Temp

Day 2
Severe Chills
High Temp
Extreme Fatigue (slept for 36 hours straight)
Very Dizzy (falling over)
Deep Chesty Cough
Difficulty taking a deep breath

Day 3
Slight Chills
Lower Temp
Extreme Fatigue
Very Sore Eyes
Difficulty Focusing

Day 4
Tiredness
Sore Eyes
Sore Head
Dificulty Focussing Eyes
Coughing



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by jrmcleod

The Flu came on within a couple of hours, feeling fine then straight to super ill, it Started off with...



This is good information but please add the following:

What "treatments" have you taken during this period? (examples: drugs, bedrest)
How much food did you consume during this period? (total abstinence, usual diet or something in between)
How much water did you drink during this period? (Does not include beverages or juices of any sort - just clean, hopefully filtered, water)
What significant changes to your diet, exercise or general environment occurred in the week(s) before you became ill? (overeating, excessive drinking, later nights and reduced sleep, increased stress, less fresh air and exercise?)
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posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by unityemissions

What I'm most concerned about is the fact that the flu got so much attention last season; both in support of awareness towards it's potential threat, and also against the notion it would turn out as a true pandemic. Regardless of the causation to these seemingly established beliefs, the thought that this years flu season could be under hyped at our peril is what really trips me out.



From Big Pharma's point of view, there's no need to hype swine flu this year because they've already sold their vaccine - it's included in the seasonal jab. Any advertising revenue will just come out of someone's profits. Any deaths from people not taking up the jab will work in their favour by hyping it up for next year.

In the UK, the large supermarket chains and the drugstores are doing their own advertising and offering jabs for their customers at a price that will be reasonable for anyone scared by the news agencies. In a way, they've privatised the business and are probably saving money from the restricted NHS budgets.

Nice work if you can get it!
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posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by unityemissions
This is seriously the weirdest bug I've ever had in my life. It keeps seeming to go, then coming back with a bit different symptoms.

The first few days --

headache/pressure in specific area's of head
dizzyness
lack of focus


This is good information but please add the following:

What "treatments" have you taken during this period? (examples: drugs, bedrest)
How much food did you consume during this period? (total abstinence, usual diet or something in between)
How much water did you drink during this period? (Does not include beverages or juices of any sort - just clean, hopefully filtered, water)
What significant changes to your diet, exercise or general environment occurred in the week(s) before you became ill? (overeating, excessive drinking, later nights and reduced sleep, increased stress, less fresh air and exercise?)

(oh and it would help my research if you could tell me if you have "underlying health problems")

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posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 10:14 AM
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im also suffering the Swine flu right now and im on my 5th day so far, And its pretty to the point of the above list of symptoms,

I have been taking.. Paracetamol to bring down temperature, Ibuprofen to help with the aches, and just some chesty cough medicine to help with the cough,

The aches have been the worst part for me, Immense lower back pain and all down my legs,
My Had have also slightly swollen around the knuckles,


food consumption has been very simple and not alot, A few soups and some Vit C drinks,

I was offered tamiflu but im sticking to just the basics i can get over a counter, Im feeling very ill still but it is starting to get better, just very very exhausted.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 10:20 AM
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To answer your questions

What "treatments" have you taken during this period? (examples: drugs, bedrest)

*Paracetamol and Ibohen, 2 days pretty much in bed unable to get up,

How much food did you consume during this period? (total abstinence, usual diet or something in between)

*2 soups a day and a few rolls,

How much water did you drink during this period? (Does not include beverages or juices of any sort - just clean, hopefully filtered, water)

*About a liter a day,

What significant changes to your diet, exercise or general environment occurred in the week(s) before you became ill? (overeating, excessive drinking, later nights and reduced sleep, increased stress, less fresh air and exercise?)

*I found just before i got this that i was more hungry the week leading up to being ill, Increased stress and a 3 week cold before hand leading up to this bout,



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by asala
To answer your questions

What "treatments" have you taken during this period? (examples: drugs, bedrest)

*Paracetamol and Ibohen, 2 days pretty much in bed unable to get up,

How much food did you consume during this period? (total abstinence, usual diet or something in between)

*2 soups a day and a few rolls,

How much water did you drink during this period? (Does not include beverages or juices of any sort - just clean, hopefully filtered, water)

*About a liter a day,

What significant changes to your diet, exercise or general environment occurred in the week(s) before you became ill? (overeating, excessive drinking, later nights and reduced sleep, increased stress, less fresh air and exercise?)

*I found just before i got this that i was more hungry the week leading up to being ill, Increased stress and a 3 week cold before hand leading up to this bout,


Thanks, Asala. This is good information. Let me make it clear that I'm not a doctor or a practitioner of any sort but as a newcomer to Natural Hygiene, I'm diligently studying this science and testing it against real life. I never (touch wood!) get sick so I'm not much use to myself as a test case and the flu sufferers all seem to be people I don't know. The information provided by the news sources never touches on any of the sufferers circumstances leaving us to think that perfectly healthy people were struck down by a marauding invader and in some cases died. If only they'd had the vaccination!

Not being doctors, we cannot access the patients information to know what treatments were given that may have complicated the illness and of course, they're not going to volunteer that information.

So, your information allows me to paint a picture that should closely reflect a Natural Hygiene viewpoint. As with everyone else in London, you've been experiencing a few months of cold and damp and sometimes extremely cold weather no doubt leading to reduced sunshine, exercise, fresh air and more time spent breathing stale air and wearing restrictive clothing. Coming up to the Christmas season, most of us tend to partake a bit more of rich foods and strong drink and get less sleep. So, as a rule, we tend to have less healthy lives than what we do in warmer months. Your additional stress on top of this will reduce further your vitality which is quite likely to show up as symptoms of a cold. From the NH perspective, a "cold" is just a sign that your body is trying to deal with toxicity.

Increased hunger is something that I'm familiar with and it's not easy to be sure if it's proper hunger where your body is in need of nourishment or if it's a craving for stimulation e.g. sugar, alchohol, spice, etc. In either case, eating more may have been a big mistake.

When the body is fighting toxicity (illness,) it diverts energy away from the digestive system to focus on expunging toxins. If you continue to eat, the food cannot be digested properly and instead putrifies or ferments in the system until it finally gets pushed out. Putrification and fermentation both result in by-products that increase the toxicity of the body and this pushes up your crisis level. The body must then shutdown all extraneous processes to enable it to deal with the toxicity before serious damage is done. Hence, you experience weakness, fever and aches and pains.

Your reaction at this point is to take medicines to relieve these symptoms. Medicines are not food (that includes herbal medicines) so every Paracetamol and Ibohen? (Ibuprofen) that you take is seen rightfully as another toxic substance that must be checked and eliminated. To do this, the energy must be diverted away from the current emergency to deal with the new problem. As there is a limit to what the body can handle, this continuing escalation could conceivably get completely out of control resulting in partial or complete failure of vital organs or death.

Fortunately, in your case, the worst case didn't happen. The litre of water daily was important and, according to NH, it's the only thing that you want to intake while suffering and afterwards until at least 24 hours after the fever breaks. Rest and clean water and confidence that any pain or discomfort suffered will result in a healthier body afterwards.

What are your thoughts on this scenario? Is there any evidence that definitely rules it out?

There's always the possibility that you caught a virus from someone and that was the source of your toxicity and if so, the same scenario applies for escalating the threat to the body. I have a problem with the virus option because it gives magical life to a piece of dead protein that has no "life" of its own. It has no means of propulsion or reproduction and even the idea that our bodies respond to its presence by absorbing it and multiplying it makes absolutely no sense considering our inherent instinct for survival.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Severe H1N1 Cases Force UK Black Alerts Recombinomics
www.recombinomics.com...

Commentary 22:45
December 31, 2010

NHS pressure group Health Emergency said a number of hospitals in East Anglia were on black and red alert, meaning the NHS was struggling to cope as the outbreak worsened.

Chairman Geoff Martin said the James Paget University Hospital in Great Yarmouth had declared a "black alert" yesterday - the most severe status level.

He added that the Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital was on "red alert" - one step below black. He said: "We warned that hospitals would be forced on to black alert as the flu cases fill the available beds - now it's happening and we do not believe that the chaos is restricted to East Anglia.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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In to my 5th week of having this flu, But the main aches and pains are gone, Just left with a horrid cough and chest which i think is now starting to pass,

There was a case here in the UK which seen a women who had been vaccinated against the swine flu pass away still due to the HN1 virus... though she had very major side issues which im sure contributed to her death.

www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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Oh my goodness, 5 weeks!?! I swear by Bcomplex and D vitamins. I take them every day. I drive 150 kids to school and back, plus deal with my own three. When I do feel under the weather it is not for long, and it is not severe.....I sneezed the other day
was a little achey/er than usual last week so I took some ibuprophen. Other than that Im good and I would say that 75% of all the kids I deal with every day have come down with the flu. One of the other drivers I know took note and started to take them too. She has not been sick either. All the other drivers have been.

Just sayin...getcha some!! and if you have been on antibiotics, then go to the store and get some probiotics (the one with the most types) that helps too.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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It hit me like a brick! I one day was fine the next i was floored, Really this has got to have been the worst flu i have ever experienced, and im pretty tough normally when it come to being ill, Im normally able to work through it..
But this really got me there was even moments where i thought i would have to call an ambulance in the worst 5 days of it,

I have thrown everything at this one lol, probiotics 100% help and vit D is what i started taking last week and i have felt loads better since having that too.

I really know what its like to have flu now, I shall never confuse a bad cold with flu ever again



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