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Swine Flu news and updates thread

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posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 05:12 AM
I've yet to see anything that shows it's worse than Hong Kong flu for instance.. that was nasty. The way all this was played out in the media you'd think it was comparable to the black plague in severity.

posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 11:30 AM
reply to post by infinite

If that is true, infinite and this is link to the Ukraine plague, how come US is not closing borders?, doesn't that sounds questionable?

After all, whatever is in the Ukraine, is not vaccine for it.

[edit on 16-11-2009 by marg6043]

posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 11:46 AM
WHO & vaccination debunk in danish media today

Today in the Danish newspappers, we read that some members from the board that advises WHO are also beeing payed by the companies who earn money on the svineflu vaccination.

I guess its official now - at least in Denmark

Here follows the links to the danish newspappers that today

posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 02:26 PM
reply to post by AUM68

Well for people like me that has been researching on the swine flu pandemic of 2009 and made comparisons to the pandemic that never was in 1976, the same corrupted groups and companies that were behind the 76 are same ones this time around, WHO, big pharma and yes our own CDC.

But hey it takes another country to point out the deceptions because in America the media pay and run propaganda always take away from the wishful, sorrowful and easily manipulated masses, specially when the "littler children are going die this time around and the unborn".

Thanks for the link.

posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 02:42 PM
".... Thanks for the link."

You are welcome, I hope translation with Google helps a bit understanding, but more or less its all what we already know, even though some quotes from other european professors etc is in there too.

I guess you are right that it takes some other countries to point the problems in ie. US !

posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:06 PM
reply to post by riley

There are a lot of reports that this is exactly what is happening in the Ukraine right now and it's now spreading to Poland and BC Canada is having an outbreak now as well.

posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:15 PM
reply to post by mkross1983

What the Ukraine is experiencing is a plague not a swine flu mutation, and still the news are hype too much.

The symptoms they are posting in the news is of a bacterial infection nature no viral.

Already 22 million people in the US have been infected with swine flu as per DCD statistics since April and now they have to scrap pneumonia deaths from to justify the pandemic.

Swine flu is not killing as much as the CDC and big pharma wants us to believe.


posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 04:24 AM

Some nice data...

posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 04:45 AM
reply to post by ottozia

Great link - but the story about Ukraine and Canada is so sad - those guys really want some population reducktion, I guess

posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 07:40 PM
reply to post by marg6043

Bacterial Coinfections in Lung Tissue Specimens from Fatal Cases of 2009 Pandemic Influenza A (H1N1) --- United States, May--August 2009

In previous influenza pandemics, studies of autopsy specimens have shown that most deaths attributed to influenza A virus infection occurred concurrently with bacterial pneumonia (1), but such evidence has been lacking for 2009 pandemic influenza A (H1N1). To help determine the role of bacterial coinfection in the current influenza pandemic, CDC examined postmortem lung specimens from patients with fatal cases of 2009 pandemic influenza A (H1N1) for bacterial causes of pneumonia. During May 1--August 20, 2009, medical examiners and local and state health departments submitted specimens to CDC from 77 U.S. patients with fatal cases of confirmed 2009 pandemic influenza A (H1N1). This report summarizes the demographic and clinical findings from these cases and the laboratory evaluation of the specimens. Evidence of concurrent bacterial infection was found in specimens from 22 (29%) of the 77 patients, including 10 caused by Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus). Duration of illness was available for 17 of the 22 patients; median duration was 6 days (range: 1--25 days). Fourteen of 18 patients for whom information was available sought medical care while ill, and eight (44%) were hospitalized. These findings confirm that bacterial lung infections are occurring among patients with fatal cases of 2009 pandemic influenza A (H1N1) and underscore both the importance of pneumococcal vaccination for persons at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia and the need for early recognition of bacterial pneumonia in persons with influenza.

This study by the CDC from people in the US show bacterial coinfection with h1n1 in 29% of the cases studied so bacterial coinfection is nothing new it even said that previous influenza pandemics it was known to happen.

posted on Nov, 17 2009 @ 08:49 PM

2009 H1N1 and Seasonal Influenza Infections and Invasive Pneumococcal Disease
What is invasive pneumococcal disease?
Invasive pneumococcal disease is an infection caused by a type of bacteria called Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus). Invasive disease means that germs invade parts of the body that are normally free from germs, like blood or spinal fluid. When this happens, disease is usually very severe, causing hospitalization or even death. When pneumococcal bacteria invade the lungs, they can cause pneumonia. They can also invade the bloodstream, causing bacteremia, and/or the tissues and fluids surrounding the brain and spinal cord, causing meningitis.

What does CDC know about invasive pneumococcal disease among people who get 2009 H1N1 or seasonal influenza?
Influenza (flu) infections can make people more likely to develop pneumococcal infections. Pneumococcal infections are a complication of 2009 H1N1 and seasonal flu infections and can cause serious complications, including death. CDC tracks pneumococcal disease through Active Bacterial Core surveillance (ABCs), part of the Emerging Infections Program Network (EIP).

This is a new article on the cdc website on bacterial coinfection. Updated today 11-17-09.

posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 11:28 AM
216 dead in the UK - Over 30 died in one week (yet nothing on UK news)

Reports (SOURCE: BBC) the first human-to-human Tamflu resistant strain - in the world - is reported in the United Kingdom. Numerous cases in Hospitals.

posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 11:36 AM
The CDC according to CNN just made an announcement that activity
of the H!N! virus is down by 19%. They were showing a clip of the
speaker lady, while the talking head told us what she was saying.
I can't even watch MSM without laughing. So stupid.

If in case you havn't seen this...

[edit on 20-11-2009 by randyvs]

posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 03:11 PM
Looking for more info on the Ukrain status, I found this article that I thought you guys could find interessting:

Container of swine virus explodes on Swiss train
28.04.2009 17:31

A container of flu virus samples packed in dry ice exploded on a Swiss train, injuring one person but posing no other risks to humans, police said on Tuesday, Reuters reported.

The box held vials of swine flu virus, although a different strain than the H1N1 variety that has caused about 150 deaths in Mexico and infected people in the United States, Canada, Spain and Britain.

A technician was transporting the container on Monday night to the Swiss national flu centre in Geneva, where scientists are developing a flu test for humans, police said.

One woman was hurt when the box exploded in reaction to the dry ice used to keep the samples cold.

After consulting virus specialists, the police decided to stop the St. Gallen to Geneva train before it entered the station in Lausanne.

The virus specialists confirmed that the samples being transported posed no risks to humans, police said.

Link to article:

[edit on 20-11-2009 by AUM68]

posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 03:17 PM
reply to post by AUM68

just checked reuters uk where the article originally came from, and it's dated April 28, 2009 ???

posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 05:02 PM
Swine flu resistent to tamiflu in the UK: Health officials say a Tamiflu-resistant strain of swine flu has spread between hospital patients.

Five patients on a unit treating people with severe underlying health conditions at the University Hospital of Wales, Cardiff, were infected.

Three appear to have acquired the infection in hospital.

They are thought to be the first confirmed cases of person-to-person transmission of a Tamiflu-resistant strain in the world.

There have been several dozen reports around the world of people developing resistance to Tamiflu while taking the drug - but they have not passed on the strain to others.

Just one possible cases of person-to-person transmission of a resistant strain has been recorded - between two people at a US summer camp - and this has never been confirmed.

Two of the University Hospital Wales patients have recovered and have been discharged from hospital, one is in critical care and two are being treated on the ward.

The health officials stressed there was no risk to anyone else.

They said tests were being carried out to confirm exactly what happened.

The UK has bought enough doses of Tamiflu, which can shorten the duration of swine flu and reduce the risk of complications, for half the population.

Serious concern

So any spread of a Tamiflu-resistant strain of the illness is a serious public health concern.

The H1N1 virus has been remarkably stable since it emerged in April, but virologists had been half expecting new resistant strains to emerge.

Dr Roland Salmon, director of the National Public Health Service for Wale's Communicable Disease Surveillance Centre, said: "The emergence of influenza A viruses that are resistant to Tamiflu is not unexpected in patients with serious underlying conditions and suppressed immune systems, who still test positive for the virus despite treatment.

"In this case, the resistant strain of swine flu does not appear to be any more severe than the swine flu virus that has been circulating since April."

Dr Tony Jewell, Chief Medical Officer for Wales, said: "We know that people with suppressed immune systems are more susceptible to the swine flu virus, which is why they are a priority group under the first phase of the vaccination programme in Wales which is progressing at pace.

"We have stringent processes in place for monitoring for antiviral resistance in the UK so that we can spot resistance early and the causes can be investigated and the cases managed.

"Identifying these cases shows that our systems are working so patients should be reassured.

"Treatment with Tamiflu is still appropriate for swine flu and people should continue to take Tamiflu when they are prescribed it.

"It's also important that good hygiene practices are followed to further prevent the spread of the virus."

Professor Peter Openshaw, a respiratory physician at Imperial College London, said of the spread: "It's not surprising that this has happened, indeed it has always been anticipated".

Dr Ronald Cutler, deputy director of biomedical science at Queen Mary, University of London, said: "Shortening the time taken to produce new vaccines and improving the methods to control and treat the disease while vaccines are being made would be a way forward".

On Thursday it was announced that more than three million healthy children under five across the UK will be offered the swine flu jab.

Figures released on Thursday showed an estimated 53,000 new cases of swine flu in England in the last week, down from 64,000 in the week before.

In Scotland, the figure was 21,200, down from about 21,500 in the previous seven days.

The rate of flu-like illnesses diagnosed by GPs in Wales dropped to 36 cases for every 100,000 people from 65.8 the previous week.

posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 09:11 PM
From what I understand about a third of pneumonia deaths are from bacteria what are the rest from? This virus lowers the immune system allowing secondary infection. With the spraying in our skies we are not getting normal sunlight. I have seen mold growing on my porch where it never grew before. Mold is a fungus. The naturals like garlic, silver,olive leaf,oregano,curcumin,onion are all kill fungus.

[edit on 20-11-2009 by blc4r4]

posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 09:38 PM
reply to post by blc4r4

I use ozone, it visibly kills mold. I had moldy pipes in the bathroom, all green.
I am so allergic to mold I could not go into the bedroom next to it.

I turned on the machine on high, closed the door for 10 min. It had all turned white and was dead. Allergy problem gone too. Who knows what is in the air these days and on chem spray days I keep that puppy on low.

It also got rid of the valley fever in my cat. He coughed for three years until I got that and has no more issues now. Vally fever is also a spore that is in the dirt here in Arizona . It is tough on animals that catch it.

posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 09:55 PM
reply to post by amatrine

I have two air filters myself that produce ozone there great keep both going all the time on high on heavy spray days.

posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 10:09 PM

Originally posted by blc4r4
reply to post by amatrine

I have two air filters myself that produce ozone there great keep both going all the time on high on heavy spray days.

The candida in the lungs (and the rest of the body) is more common than we think -
I think the fungal issue that the bats have is something similar -
I think a lot of us are experiencing this throughout our bodies -
It is the elephant in room in regards to our health right now -
No one is really talking about it - but believe me - it's big.
I think it is key in what we are seeing in many bodies -
and an important missing link in regards to keeping our immune systems well.

Caprylic acid is a great way to keep it in check -
you can get it in capsules - or naturally through organic coconut oil.
Put it in your oatmeal - on a rice cake - etc -
I do both.
This has saved my life -
Also - JUST cranberry juice (as in no sugar)
and grapefruit seed extract.
I'm so glad you brought this up.

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