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reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 10:50 PM by Ben Niceknowinya
reply to post by Aeons



Good 2 know. And it does seems to be attacking youg healthy people.!

www.webmd.com...

I'm just going to double up on my Vitamin C.

I swam in the East river as a kid, so my body's been tampered in raw sh*t.
I'm hoping my immune system is gonna go bananas, and kill this thing if it comes near me.

Also, if we shouldn't excite our immune systems, would.... say, going to the gym be a bad idea?

I'm definetaly gonna stock up on maaaad canned beans 2mrw incase I have 2 quarantine myself. I'll be farting up a storm!

And soups!


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 10:58 PM by unityemissions
I just posted a thread where I link articles which show very high dose vitamin-c can ward off all flu viruses including the avian flu. Many people have been treated with very high-dose ascorbic acid for illnesses since the 1930's!

Check it out..


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 11:24 PM by drphilxr
reply to post by Ben Niceknowinya



Tamiflu (oseltamivir) works for now. The bug may mutate

as influ is known to do. Genes recombinate in humans, and

it took a human with 'regular' (h1-h3) flu AND swine flu at the

same time to create this novel strain. hence the name.

Zanamivir is a strange but effective drug similar to tamiflu

but administered by an advair like mechanism : disperses a fine

mist of drug particles into the lungs. Its for over 12 year old patients.

I would stock up on tamiflu now if you can get it.

Also, many online (ie., clint pharmaceuticals, others) drug suppliers

can provide influenza rapid test kits for about $10 each.

You gotta know if you have it to treat it within the first 24-48 hours.

Finally, DON'T get exposed is the best defense! If you - like

many good ATS'ers - avoid urban centers then all the better.

Basic supplies are a must - if this is the big one, no one will be

driving gas trucks, food trucks, or pharmacy trucks. Be warned.

There is also anectodal evidence from the 1950's presented in

a few old JAMA journals/ meeting notes about (IM) large dose vitamin

C for polio (and they inferred influenza) virus treatment. It apparently

could cure active polio per the administering doctors.

Antibiotics (azithromycin, erythromycin, unasyn, ampicillen/augmentin

(clavulanate), and others) should be stocked if possible for secondary

bacterial pneumonia infections following flu...takes about 10-14 days

for that.

Well, that's all i can think of , besides masks (hepa rated N95 or better)

yours truly

Dr. Phil (M.D)


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 11:32 PM by drphilxr
reply to post by Aeons



yes, agree....the "cytokine storm" results in pulmonary edema

which lands you in the ICU and can result in acute respiratory distress

syndrome, SARS like.

So....if you take anything OTC, think antihistamines and

antiinflammatories (NSAIDS like alleve, ibupro, etc).

And BTW, my med school classmate who works as an anesthesiologist

on staff at a major teaching hospital in Boston once told me he quit

the disaster planning committe there because all they did was fart around

with flowcharts of "who comes in when, and what order to call people"

and ignoring his requests for more ventilators , gloves, gowns etc (there

weren't enough as is, let alone major pandemic).

As for all the support staff at my hospital - and im sorry to say

that most will say this - "we're not coming in if it means we're going

to die...."

think about that. i think we would come in if vaccinated /on tamiflu

but there's a ramp up time for that too!

[edit on 4/24/2009 by drphilxr]


reply posted on 25-4-2009 @ 06:54 AM by cosmicpixie
If this doesn't go pandemic something else eventually will . If it does go pandemic maybe it will take a few months to really get going. Either way, if there is the possibility of time before it hits properly then there is time to attempt to boost the immune system, which as someone mentioned can take a while.

Eat only organic food. Yes, it costs more but if you plan your weekly meals better you could probably cut down on the amount you buy and so end up spending the same as you would do on the weekly non-organic shop.

Get a water filter to purify tap water

Be careful of taking Echinacea for longer than a few weeks at a time as it's been linked to health problems, it's powerful stuff and must not be over-used

If planning to bulk by (I am ) then you're going to need to try and get at least three months worth of food and other supplies in, preferably 6 because if people start dropping like flies then food production, manufacturing and tranportation will be affected and there will be food shortages

Consider also alternative fuel and lighting sources as in a really bad scenario it's possible that water, electricity and gas plants might be affected due to staff numbers rapidly declining. I've got a small camping stove /cook pots set and will be getting a calour gas fire and some of those big gas canisters to fuel it. I also have a wind up radio, wind up torch and loads of candles....I got a bit paranoid 2 years ago when the hype first broke out so when a bit nuts on buying stuff . I bought masks too but later on learnt that masks apparantly have a shelf life, ie a sell by date !! You might want to check this out if you have masks that have been sitting in a box for 2 years like me as they might be useless

We talked about it all 2 years ago and decided if it broke out to basically hole ourselves up for X amount of months, not venturing anywhere unless it was absolutely essential. No visits to relatives, shops, public places etc and if we did then to go out with masks, gloves, shoe covers, plastic coveralls

So if you go this route ensure you've lots of things to keep you /kids occupied - books, games , spare batteries for toys, ipods, etc

And don't tell anyone except those you absolutely trust that you have supplies


reply posted on 25-4-2009 @ 07:20 AM by mysticalzoe
Originally posted by unityemissions
I just posted a
thread where I link articles which show very high dose vitamin-c can ward off all flu viruses including the avian flu. Many people have been treated with very high-dose ascorbic acid for illnesses since the 1930's!

Check it out..


Yeah I believe that, when ever anyone of my family members get sick including myself, i stock up on OJ and Grapefruti juice, the natural kind, not tropicana, but the Simply Orange, and simply Grapefruit. It helps out a lot, so does drinking lots of tea, and getting plenty of rest.
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