Originally posted by Gawdzilla
reply to post by FX44rice
"So, I'm to believe it just happenned? No one has been able to generate a good argument either. Only able to regurgetate second / third hand
information originating from the gov't itself."
400,000+ employees worked on the project. The Russians, British, etc., tracked the vehicles from Earth orbit to the moon. The signals from Tranquility
Base were triangulated by independent tracker and confirmed as coming from the Moon. If the Russians had been able to prove the landings were fake
don't you think they would have done it?
Let me ask you something and I'm being serious.
The Russians, Brits, and even us. Have you ever seen the leaders of the countries go to war with one another? This may not seem on topic but it will
come around. I'm not talking old republics, but since space flight. Have you ever seen one leader of another country have a fight with another leader
from a different country. Two men with only the fists on their bodies?
I ask this because, while it seems very difficult for this to be pulled off, it isn't. You will notice the leaders are all friends. When they end war
it is with a hand shake and a peace treaty and a little on the back end if you know what I mean.
You don't notice how in every great empire, that right at the time of war, a big humanitarian effort goes forth also or a "New" disease becomes a
problem? Takes care of surplus
Have you ever read Kennedy's think tank on how to have a war less society? Space was the number one goal to end war, but it became a money laundering
scam. Johnson let him make his claims to the world, then killed him and used his Idea to dump money into companies that he owned or was a part owner
in such as Bell Helicopter. Same with Bush now a days who owns part in Bradley Tanks and most other Leaders. Unlimited spending. No wonder Bushs
defense spending has nearly broken us only he ain't worried. He already pulled his big "shock and awe". War is Business, Space is Entertainment so
that you don't look at the business being conducted in war.
In the batters box....Barak Hussin Obama. What's barak going to champion? What do you know....Back to the moon, only this time with Killer sets and
believable graphics. CG I just like all the other stuff. Sure a shuttle launches, but it comes right back down. Remember that 747 they piggy back it
on and can launch it in the air from?
Launch cape Canaveral and land in Africa, stay at the CGI ISS a few weeks then Piggy flys up in the air and we all make believe we just sent men to
space. I mean for god sakes, every experiment they need "micro gravity" for could be done in a modeling computer at 1/100th the cost.
Best part is, it is government and they don't need to answer to anyone, you guys know that
I also had asked about scientists still doing experiments that made something proven or a law. I believe once a Journal has been released it is put on
the shelf, therefore "all of the scientists" are operating off of nothing more then passed on notes, not understanding the actual concepts except
for on paper. We can't fly paper to the moon, only about 100ft...
Tony Benet sang it, Disney produced it, and America Paid for it. Go back over the
list of mobile units for the Vietnam war alone...Trillions of dollars, washed clean for the cost of 2001 at the most. I think someone had said 10
million for that movie..NOTHING compared to the TRILLIONS to be made by just "saying we did it, but not really doing it"...."What? all you guys
need is some camera footage at a backlot called 51? No worries filming starts tomorrow, don't worry no one will bug us, we will just say it was
aliens. After all we've got Dr. Mitchell". The only astronaut to swear on the bible, after telling the interviewer "sure I will, I don't believe
in it anyway". Every other astronaut when offered 5000 dollars to their favorite charity if they would swear on the bible that they went to the moon
refused siting horrible taste of the interviewer. He just offered them 5 grand for their favorite charity, but the interviewer is in bad taste. Bad
taste to not swear on a bible if it is true for 5 grand to go to lukemia children or someone who needs it? Weird, but they didn't want to ruin their
integrity at the cost of a organization that could use the money, when what they supposedly did they can't stand up for. I think Seibriel was the
interviewer. I know he is controversial amongst the NASA circle, but his question was strait forward and there is no reason the "true" astronauts
shouldn't of been able to swear and say it is true, yet they would not, only Mitchell.....Judas of the twelve.
Ding, ding, ding, come and get it boys. Government contracts for everyone, oh yeah, sorry America....um....get back to work.
Ike was serious and it was that close of a threat when he said, " the military industrial complex". JFK repeated this, but with him gone, his worst
fears came true
I'm not saying the 400,000 employees aren't real, but I've heard that before without a shred of fact to back it up, but even if, how many employees
does the Government employee currently at NASA and really, how could anyone actually verify that other then someone saying it or a piece of paper
saying it. No real evidence mainly because you are asking people that already don't believe the moon missions happened to believe figures and
calculations, number of employees, distances, volumes of pressure, capsule design, Saturn rockets (I want my EMPTY V), rock samples no average person
can test, Movies that are so fake that 2001 and starwars look more real and believable, and astronauts making inside jokes they think no one gets
while walking around on the "moon". You can actually see them zipping each other up. In another video, and I will find it on monday...my service is
down and I'm borrowing a friends laptop...but you can see he holds a rock up to the camera and his thumb can be seen through a hole in his glove to
help him grip things because of the bulky suits prohibitive movement.
And guys you're grown men, don't tell me the movies where the astronauts fall down flat on there face and then miraculously rebound with out even
pushing up from the ground that looks.
Plus if the moon is held by earths gravity, then why isn't the gravity on the moon the same? If the earth is holding it, then what is generating
it's gravity to be 1/6th? Wouldn't it be 1/6th the mass of the earth, so the moon would provide the 1/6th, so then, where does earths gravity play
seeing as how it is strong enough to hold the moon. Wouldn't the moon be 1/6th gravity PLUS the gravity's hold of the earth boosting it from 1/6th
plus the loss ratio from the earth's own gravity in ratio to distance?
1/6th can't be, because on the moon it is 6/6ths or 1 gravity atmosphere equivalent to the moons mass, but again where does the earth gravity go? Not
strong enough to increase the moons gravity, but strong enough to hold it? Makes no sense.
[edit on 3-5-2009 by letthereaderunderstand]