Credible UFO Quotes by prominent individuals., page 10
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reply posted on 8-7-2011 @ 02:45 AM by yeti101
reply to post by MrInquisitive



there are credible reports of unidentified phenomenon but i dont believe the best explanation is the ETH. I've not found a case with good enough evidence to support the ETH. At least not in the nuts & bolts craft piloted by ET sense. There's still sightings of phenomenon that remain unexplained imo.
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reply posted on 12-7-2011 @ 06:39 PM by JimOberg
This opinion may bear repetition.


Originally posted by JimOberg
Lots of people thought that UFO reports could best be explained by alien spaceship visits -- it made sense based on our own primitive space efforts. But we know a lot more about how honest UFO misperceptions are generated, retold, and embellished now then we did in the early years. Throwing around important people's names is an interesting exercise in cataloguing, but hardly evidence.

Now, note that when a specific quotation is raised as to being bogus, responses are usually not constructive. Often there's the stubborn dig-heels-in response, 'Sez YOU!'. Or the response, OK, you found the bad one, that shows all the others are good. But when an ostensibly pre-verified, heavily vetted list is presented as evidence, there shouldn't BE any 'bad ones', after all these years.

The bigger question this raises is, is there any way that tighter quality control standards can be applied to what passes for 'UFO evidence' such as these quotations? Surely the Internet was supposed to make all points of view accessible, rather than facilitate mindless repetitions of the same points of view.

I raise the Harry Truman quotation as an example. There has been some original research calling that entire comment into question. How can that research be located via search engines, so its argumentation and evidence can be considered? I'm not arguing for that conclusion -- I'm advocating developing ways to make such anti-conclusions available for weighing against other claims.



In my own area of professional specialization, spaceflight operations, I found the bogusity rate of alleged quotations appalingly high:

Afanasyev -- apparently entirely fictitious from a US TV program
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Wernher von Braun -- apparently entirely fictitious:
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Cernan -- Direct contact with him, he denies believing it, or ever saying it.

Lovekin: He apparently provides bogus credentials, not encouraging for uncheckable allegations.

Slayton: Accurate recounting from his on book

Khrunov -- Accurate quote

Kovalyonok -- Fascinating account of a very UN-UFO-like sighting, with detailed drawings, that seem much more related to a space or missile event -- with interesting 'coincidence' that it occurred over the South African missile test center at Oberbeck at a time they were known to be working on nuke-carrying middle-range missiles.

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