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Originally posted by fooffstarr
When America's military begins to weaken and your troops and innocent tourists and journalists are taken and tortured overseas, please just sit back and say 'well they are only doing it because we are at war. Anything goes in war'.
Because that is what you are doing now.
Those who live by the sword, die by the sword. Karma will turn around to bite America in the ass soon enough, so don't come crying then.
You condone it now, you condone it then.
Originally posted by Marek
reply to post by justsomeboreddude
I don't think anyone is suggesting War should be a picnic, but war has some pretty clear definitions.
Who are we at war with right now? And why? What are we trying to achieve?
Each of those questions should have a clear and definite answer before we start trying to justify illegal acts by crying "war!!!".
Originally posted by Pharyax
Unfortuantly, torture is sometimes a necessary evil.
But 'posing' in front of them like you're taking a family photo is just insane... disgusting actually. Definitely not professionals.
These statements make it clear that torture — which, in case we forget, is condemned not just because it is morally repugnant, but also because the confessions it produces are unreliable — contaminates almost the whole basis of yesterday’s charges, and casts doubt on at least some of the government’s assertions. In his tribunal at Guantánamo, for example, Mustafa al-Hawsawi admitted providing support for jihadists, including transferring money for some of the 9/11 hijackers, but denied that he was a member of al-Qaeda. Ali Abdul Aziz Ali was even more adamant that he had no involvement with terrorism. Although he admitted transferring money on behalf of some of the 9/11 hijackers, he insisted that he had no knowledge of either 9/11 or al-Qaeda, and was a legitimate businessman, who regularly transferred money to Arabs in the United States, without knowing what it would be used for.
Originally posted by daptodave
Defending torture of any kind simply makes you wrong. For those that claim some higher ground morally because they behead ours or blow themselves up killing others.