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Mysterious U.S. Swine Flu Probe Widens as Mexico Finds Swine Flu *updated*

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posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
reply to post by Aeons
 

Which was specifically??????????????
Swine Bird and Mild Human strains......


It wasn't a bird flu.

Think of it this way. The difference between the "swine" and the "avian" is which one was the pervious incubating species in which the recombinant that jumped to human came from.




posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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Info is sketchy here at best: 2) 16 yr. old boys at the same school have been found to have this particular "mutant" strain of the flu but I think they are both being treated and are okay thus far.

I will absolutely keep on this in my area and continue to update as I find out more.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 10:40 PM
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Adaptation is non-exclusive



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 10:45 PM
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My dad is in cancun on vacation and I spoke with him today. He has not heard anything, and really didnt concern himself after the info I told him.

Same with my GF and co-workers, they seem not interested..
This is what bothers me.


....I will contunue to follow



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
reply to post by Aeons
 
Adaptation is non-exclusive



If you take DNA from a sheep and then combine it with a few spider genes and a couple of cow genes, but primarily keep all the things that make it a sheep. You still have a sheep when you put it in the egg and implant it.

The model viruses use is similar to bacteria or fungi, which can pass along advantageous change between species. However, even though a candida albacans gives a jock itch a new gene, jock itch is still jock itch, and a yeast infection is still a yeast infection.

Adaptation follows logical rules, particulary since DNA/RNA is a highly ordered language.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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Great posts to all!

I came across this video...still trying to understand why this has had mass coverage and reported repeatedly on every major news outlet...I do not recall a single event aside from catastrophic that was given so much MSM attention...with only 8 cases reported in the U.S. and no deaths...and still hovering at 1,000- in Mexico with under 80 casualties....

I understand what a crisis this is still in Mexico, and that is why I have continued to post here, and thank everyone else for doing so! All the information will be useful!

ATS is sure to follow this to the end...




posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:06 PM
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Theory



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:12 PM
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I'm getting really frustrated. I got memos and documents at work today discussing the flu cases in Mexico and other cases occurring right now, etc etc and they are giving me very different information on several points concerning this whole thing, than what is in the media.

I work for a government agency. Thus you would think this means they are telling us far more of the scarier, 'real' details that they don't share with the general public, in order to prevent panacea....and keep them focused on the basic, most important measures (or whatever the 'excuse' is for being liars)
And usually that is the case. But THIS time.....they are telling us totally screwed up stuff that is, different, yes, but nothing nearly as scary as the MSM is making it look. Unusual.

So.....I'm just confused. I am not trained to be an expert in any of this, I just get the bloody info.....
Something seems bogus this time around. I dunno.
And I'm going forget about swine and go have some wine now...
Night.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:14 PM
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Classic fear mongering propaganda,looks like it's working on quite a few people.....

Now...what could possibly be the purpose/reason for wanting to scare the crap out of half the country?...or more?..

We all need to take a week off from work anyway,so the economy gets on with imploding,and we can get past this after,we ALL take a long walk to Washington DC and fix what's really wrong...

Americans,I/you crack me up.

That just may be the plan...

Push it down!!!!!!!!!!..


[edit on 24-4-2009 by chiponbothshoulders]



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
*sounds like* they might have a plan...


WHO ready with antivirals to combat swine flu
in.reuters.com...

GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Health Organisation (WHO) said on Friday that it was prepared with rapid containment measures including antivirals if needed to combat the swine flu outbreaks in Mexico and the United States.

The Geneva-based agency has been stockpiling doses of Roche AG's Tamiflu, known generically as oseltamivir, a pill that can both treat flu and prevent infection. But health authorities in the two North American countries have the resources required already in place, including Tamiflu, and are "well equipped", according to the WHO.

"WHO is prepared with rapid containment measures should it be necessary to be deployed," WHO spokeswoman Aphaluck Bhatiasevi told Reuters.
More at Links...

Experts Debate Pandemic Potential of Swine Flu
abcnews.go.com...

A top federal health official said the government's concern over the swine flu outbreaks in the United States and Mexico has grown since Thursday -- and a handful of influenza experts worry the deadly, never-before-seen hybrid strain may spur a pandemic.

Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said that health officials confirmed yet another U.S. case of swine flu in California today, bringing the total number of Americans infected with the disease to eight.

Though it is still too early to say for certain whether a swine flu pandemic is possible or likely, the cases, all of which have occurred in California and Texas, have aroused concerns among the public, Besser acknowledged.




Hx3...thanks for that information...and even if this flu does not ignite...which we hope it does not...TPTB have known and prepared...how strange!?

As you posted...there are years of concern behind todays headlines.
How is that...do they have crystal balls? Or do they have an agenda!?
Hx3...your "discovery" abilitys still astound me!



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships
As you posted...there are years of concern behind todays headlines.
How is that...do they have crystal balls? Or do they have an agenda!?
Hx3...your "discovery" abilitys still astound me!


I know it is a no no to re-post same posts in different threads -
(did that make sense?)
but I wanted to re-post what I wrote in the other one -
I think it is in line with their special preparedness....

I have been tracking symptoms for the last year and a half -
around the globe - specifically these symptoms -

upper respiratory distress-
cough
sinus
headache
itchy watery red eyes - (a lot like pink eye - but not pink eye)
pseudo ear infections -
stiff neck

but the biggest symptom and most disturbing symptom is -
the inability to completely get rid of some of these symptoms
once they have made a home in your body.

I think we have a world full of people with these symptoms - already -
in a low grade way - people have become "use to" feeling ill.
I also believe there is a fungal component.

I know of a very large number people who have been sick with sudden onset of "asthma" or "allergies" for the last year and a half. Never having had these symptoms before.

Also persistent cough and unnaturally heavy mucus - for many months at a time.

I think something has been going on for a long time.
I don't think it is a coincidence that we are also seeing these same symptoms in
populations of wildlife. Many of whom are dying off.

I am not saying that we have had the "flu" for the last year -
but we have had something - and it has caused low immune systems in
the population worldwide.
Something is amiss in my opinion.





[edit on 24-4-2009 by spinkyboo]



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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When do you find time to work?.

I don't ,not in the classical sense anyway..

No offense.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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My chest has been gurgly for months,I just crank harder on my bicycle and blow the goo out,spit it at dogs that chase me down the road.

They eat it.

Anyway.

Personally,I think the problem has more to do with pollution,and pollutants that effect the immune reponse.

Nah,couldn't be something as simple as that.........



[edit on 24-4-2009 by chiponbothshoulders]



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
reply to post by spinkyboo
 
My chest has been gurgly for months,I just crank harder on my bicycle and blow the goo out,spit it at dogs that chase me down the road.

They eat it.

Anyway.



how truly unfortunate for the dogs.


could be something as simple as that...



[edit on 24-4-2009 by spinkyboo]



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by MsSmartypants
Genetically engineered? That's whats in the back of all our minds.


Yup. That and wondering exactly what it was that was either 'lost' or came up missing from that lab in Galveston during the hurricane.

Did anyone ever uncover what was supposed to be in that lab?



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:29 PM
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No need to be insultive,I may be watching this thread for a reason that you would appreciate.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by spinkyboo

Originally posted by burntheships
As you posted...there are years of concern behind todays headlines.
How is that...do they have crystal balls? Or do they have an agenda!?
Hx3...your "discovery" abilitys still astound me!


I know it is a no no to re-post same posts in different threads -
(did that make sense?)
but I wanted to re-post what I wrote in the other one -
I think it is in line with their special preparedness....

I have been tracking symptoms for the last year and a half -
around the globe - specifically these symptoms -

upper respiratory distress-
cough
sinus
headache
itchy watery red eyes - (a lot like pink eye - but not pink eye)
pseudo ear infections -
stiff neck

but the biggest symptom and most disturbing symptom is -
the inability to completely get rid of some of these symptoms
once they have made a home in your body.

I think we have a world full of people with these symptoms - already -
in a low grade way - people have become "use to" feeling ill.
I also believe there is a fungal component.

I know of a very large number people who have been sick with sudden onset of "asthma" or "allergies" for the last year and a half. Never having had these symptoms before.

Also persistent cough and unnaturally heavy mucus - for many months at a time.

I think something has been going on for a long time.
I don't think it is a coincidence that we are also seeing these same symptoms in
populations of wildlife. Many of whom are dying off.

I am not saying that we have had the "flu" for the last year -
but we have had something - and it has caused low immune systems in
the population worldwide.
Something is amiss in my opinion


Spinkyboo, thanks for reposting that! There is something that is not setting right with this whole story! Of course we know that us test subjects never quite get the full scoop...unless it is from a friend!



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:32 PM
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Genetic engineering happens by itself,there is no conspiracy here.

The only conspiracy is the amount of "pseudo-histeria" that completely random events cause to humans who are too dependant ont TV and computers for their data.

You are being Manipulated.

Fungi has a lot to do with most ailments.

Everything works in combination with everything else.

Media is a good way to convince people they are sick when they really aren't.

And then you have no insurance ,which really make your fear of nothing set in.

[edit on 24-4-2009 by chiponbothshoulders]



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:32 PM
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spinkyboo

I've been noticing the same thing.

I think that there is some sort of fungal component to some of it as well.

People with these symptoms are being somewhat ignored. Or it is blown off with a shrug and the "stress" diagnosis.
(note - this hasn't really happened to me, so I'm not saying that because I'm upset about being blown off this way.)

I've tossed aroung the idea that it isn't being caught because it isn't a full virus. Some sort of retro virus, RNA snippet, proto-virus. Something that isn't easily caught on a test because they aren't looking for it. That's just me snowballing though.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
Genetic engineering happens by itself,there is no conspiracy here.

The only conspiracy is the amount of "pseudo-histeria" that completely random events cause to humans who are too dependant ont TV and computers for their data.

You are being Manipulated.


Well yes. Every interaction is a form of manipulation.

You're a bit ....overly obvious aren't you?

[edit on 2009/4/24 by Aeons]



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