Mysterious U.S. Swine Flu Probe Widens as Mexico Finds Swine Flu *updated*, page 287
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reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 12:29 AM by chise61
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I read another article about this today and this part really jumped out at me.......


Last week, some 2.4 million doses of nasal spray vaccine made of greatly weakened, but live, H1N1 virus were delivered to state and local health authorities around the United States.


Now everything i've seen on tv has doctors saying that these vaccines are all made from a dead virus, which i have a really hard time believing. And now we have these people saying that the vaccine is made from a live virus, i believe their claims.


"Officials have said the virus is so much like the ordinary flu virus that they don't need to do special new drug testing on it because it's just the same old virus with a minor change to it," said Turner.


Apparantly they think we're just a bunch of idiots


"We're saying, if that's the case, then all the hype about this thing being a worldwide threat is misplaced and they've stampeded the state of New York into taking an action they never would have taken if it were just another flu."


Makes sense to me.

news.yahoo.com...



Also i was watching the news the yesterday and they were talking about how health care workers were required to take the vaccine at a hospital here. They said that they can't force them to take it and if they chose not to they would have to wear a mask while on duty. They also said that the law in New York that mandates healthcare workers to be vaccinated is not really a law, just a guideline and the ACLU is fighting it saying it's unconstitutional.


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 12:55 AM by chise61
Now they're saying that this flu is causing unusual damage to lungs, such as blood clots.


The new pandemic H1N1 flu may cause blood clots and other unusual damage in the lungs and doctors need to be on the lookout, U.S. researchers reported on Thursday.


Two studies published in the American Journal of Roentgenology show the need to check X-rays and CT scans for unusual features, and also point out swine flu can be tricky to diagnose in some of the sickest patients.


One middle-aged man who died was not diagnosed until after death, but unusual findings on his X-rays may be able to help doctors save other, similar patients.



Mollura's team found irregularities called ground-glass opacities in the patient's lungs using a CT scan. Although the patient was severely ill and had a fever, he tested negative for flu and doctors did not treat him for it.


In another study in the same journal, CT scans of patients with severe cases of swine flu showed many had pulmonary emboli, which block the arteries in the lungs, a team at the University of Michigan found.


Anticoagulant drugs can break up these clots and save lives.


"Our study suggests that patients who are severely ill with H1N1 are also at risk for developing pulmonary emboli, which should be carefully sought for on contrast-enhanced CT scans, " Agarwal said in a statement


"The majority of patients undergoing chest X-rays with H1N1 have normal radiographs (X-rays)," she added. Pulmonary emboli are also not normally seen in flu, she said.


"CT scans proved valuable in identifying those patients at risk of developing more serious complications as a possible result of the H1N1 virus, and for identifying a greater extent of disease than is appreciated on chest radiographs."


It would seem that if a family member is sick with the H1N1 that the family should ask to have a CT performed in addition to the xrays as the xrays don't seem to show the blood clots, and other damage that the CT's are capable of showing.


health.yahoo.com...


reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 04:32 PM by chise61
reply to post by burntheships



The German Chancelor, ministers, and army will receive vaccines without adjuvent, while the general public will receive the standard vaccines with the harmful adjuvents in them. They aren't even attempting to hide this information from the German people

From this thread.....

www.abovetopsecret.com...


reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 06:28 PM by JBA2848
english.donga.com...

Distrust Over Tamiflu`s Adverse Effects Rising
NOVEMBER 16, 2009 08:32
Tamiflu, an anti-viral drug to treat the H1N1 influenza virus, had nothing to do with a teenager’s attempted suicide, health authorities said yesterday.
A 14-year-old boy in Bucheon, Gyeonggi Province who had taken Tamiflu leapt from an apartment building Oct. 30.

The center for countermeasures against influenza at the Health, Welfare and Family Affairs Ministry said, “After conducting an epidemiological study and consulting experts, we have concluded there was little possibility that Tamiflu caused him to kill himself. He took just one dose of the anti-viral drug.”

The boy had sought medical attention due to high fever Oct. 29 and was prescribed Tamiflu. The following day, he went to bed after taking the medicine but woke up from a nightmare and jumped from his sixth-floor apartment.


In Japan, a series of teen suicides in 2007 found that they took Tamiflu. Since the sale of the anti-viral drug was permitted in 2001, Japan had been the world’s largest consumer of Tamiflu from 2001 to 2007 with up 70 percent of global consumption. With the number of teenagers who jumped to their deaths from a building or in front of trucks increasing, fear over the adverse effects of the drug has risen.

According to a survey by the Japanese Health Ministry of 137 teen seasonal flu patients from 2006 through 2007 who either rushed out from their houses on an impulse or jumped from a building, 82 of them or 60 percent were found to have taken Tamiflu.

The ministry conducted another survey in June of 10,000 children under age 18 and banned medical institutions from prescribing Tamiflu for those under 18. It said the relationship between Tamiflu and odd behavior cannot be proven nor denied.




reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 06:28 PM by JBA2848
english.donga.com...

Distrust Over Tamiflu`s Adverse Effects Rising
NOVEMBER 16, 2009 08:32
Tamiflu, an anti-viral drug to treat the H1N1 influenza virus, had nothing to do with a teenager’s attempted suicide, health authorities said yesterday.
A 14-year-old boy in Bucheon, Gyeonggi Province who had taken Tamiflu leapt from an apartment building Oct. 30.

The center for countermeasures against influenza at the Health, Welfare and Family Affairs Ministry said, “After conducting an epidemiological study and consulting experts, we have concluded there was little possibility that Tamiflu caused him to kill himself. He took just one dose of the anti-viral drug.”

The boy had sought medical attention due to high fever Oct. 29 and was prescribed Tamiflu. The following day, he went to bed after taking the medicine but woke up from a nightmare and jumped from his sixth-floor apartment.


In Japan, a series of teen suicides in 2007 found that they took Tamiflu. Since the sale of the anti-viral drug was permitted in 2001, Japan had been the world’s largest consumer of Tamiflu from 2001 to 2007 with up 70 percent of global consumption. With the number of teenagers who jumped to their deaths from a building or in front of trucks increasing, fear over the adverse effects of the drug has risen.

According to a survey by the Japanese Health Ministry of 137 teen seasonal flu patients from 2006 through 2007 who either rushed out from their houses on an impulse or jumped from a building, 82 of them or 60 percent were found to have taken Tamiflu.

The ministry conducted another survey in June of 10,000 children under age 18 and banned medical institutions from prescribing Tamiflu for those under 18. It said the relationship between Tamiflu and odd behavior cannot be proven nor denied.

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