Mysterious U.S. Swine Flu Probe Widens as Mexico Finds Swine Flu *updated*

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Your observations are correct...they are intentionally speaking out of both sides of the mouth. It is the classic 'doublespeak' technique...

Why are they doing this? One certainty, come time when the vaccination is ready, they are going to at lease request, if not make mandatory, a new flu vaccine for children. To the extent of my knowledge, that is unprecedented. The flyer is just a prep...

US Centers for Disease Control: Swine flu Director's Update Brief, 22 May 2009

If you read this pdf file from the CDC on page 15 you will notice a graph on school closings it says a lot. On 4-28 the CDC annouced close schools for one week when theres a case of swine flu and there was 104 school closings effecting 55,000 children. On 5-1 they said close schools for 2 weeks and there was 433 schools closed and 245,449 children effected. On 5-5 they said stop closing schools there was 726 schools closed effecting 468,282 children. BY 5-15 only 5 schools were closed then they started closing again on 5-21 there were 60 schools closed even though CDC says don't close the schools. 5-18 is when the school principal in New York died 5-14 is when he was rushed to the hospital in critical condition. So I believe the schools looked at that case and said !@#$ the CDC close the schools if there is swine flu they also had attendace in some schools as low as 50%.

# USA: New York: Dutchess County: 2 confirmed cases.Source: New York State Depart. of Health (pdf)Date: 27 may 200923 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# USA: Mississippi: Jackson County: 3 confirmed cases.Source: Mississippi Department of HealthDate: 26 May 2009, 23:34 GMT23 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# USA: Wyoming: Laramie County: 1 confirmed case. Source: Wyoming Dept. of Health Date: 27 May 2009about 1 hour ago from twitterfeed

# Manitoba: Five New Cases of Influenza A (H1N1) Confirmed; Total of 11 Cases of the Virus Confirmed Provincially : Date: May 27, 2009 ..8 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# New Mexico: 11 New Cases of Influenza A (H1N1) Confirmed, Raising State Confirmed Case Count to 108: Date: May 27, 2009 22:06 UTC Ris..8 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# Nova Scotia: 71st Case of Influenza A (H1N1) Confirmed : Date: May 27, 2009 21:28 UTC Risk: Low The Public Health Agency of Canada (P..8 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# Quebec: 22 Additional Cases of Influenza A (H1N1) Confirmed; Provincial Case Count Reaches 207: Date: May 27, 2009 21:24 UTC Risk: Lo..8 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Stoughton Middle School student recovers from swine flu
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High School Student in Idaho Falls Contracts H1N1 Swine Flu
www.kpvi.com...

Mexico reports 6 more swine flu deaths; toll at 89
mlive.com

Five more swine flu cases in Manitoba, two people in hospital
www.google.com...

As Flu Retreats, Scientists Brace for Its Return
The H1N1 Virus, Strains of Which Have Circulated for Decades, Could Come Back in a More Virulent Form
online.wsj.com...

Health Problems Abundant In Saskatoon
www.newstalk650.com...

Swine flu strikes Newton on weekends
www.wickedlocal.com...

8 more swin flu cases push statewide total past 90
www.ktvn.com...

Go out and get ‘Swine flu’ now? That right?
www.odt.co.nz...

Acton schools reopen after flu scare
www.wickedlocal.com...

More Cases of Swine Flu Reported in Washoe County
www.ktvn.com...

17 new flu cases in hospitals
www.nst.com.my...

Man who died from H1N1 was otherwise healthy: family
www.cp24.com...

NY Lab Incubates Future Of H1N1 Vaccine
www.ny1.com...

Landstuhl to test Sigonella flu case for H1N1
www.stripes.com...

Hmmm...
Army post shuts down for anti-suicide event
www.cnn.com...

Swine flu: Uruguay confirms first cases
mlive.com

NEWS: OCEANIA
bigmedic ine.com

CDC releases viruses for novel H1N1 vaccine development
www.cidrap.umn.edu...

Swine flu (H1N1) monitoring changes in Washington — new virus is common
www.doh.wa.gov...

City reports flu suspect
english.eastday.com...

[edit on 5/27/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by JBA2848


Ditto. Agreed.



Y'all know money is more important than children's lives

But my point wasn't the closing of the schools...I, for one, think we should have "locked down" a bit more earlier--especially in the border state of cal.

My point is for US TPTB to just be a little honest with us some of the time and let us know the truth...I mean come on, alerting us on the community level but smoothing things over at the top???

I know...dream on

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deep apologies/regrets for double post

dealin'with a heck a dinosaur computer here

will ban myself from ATS until get a better comp

[edit on 27-5-2009 by sonjah1]

Sudden death variant?

Story out of Scarborough, Ontario, Canada...

www.cp24.com...

H1N1 Update
www.wlaj.com...

New Strategy For Swine Flu
Health Authorities To Limit Focus Of Testing
www.kapptv.com...

Swine flu vaccine may add two shots to flu-prevention regimen
www.rep-am.com...

Cruise liner passengers screened for H1N1 symptoms
www.fijivillage.com...

Update 52 - Influenza A (H1N1) Swine Flu
www.scoop.co.nz...

Costa Rica reports 37 cases of A/H1N1 flu
news.xinhuanet.com...

No pandemic, but H1N1 sounds alarm
www.waurikademocrat.com...

Hmmm...
adec: @ZZZ88 A strain of Swine Flu capable of infecting lions has been isolated. Zoos have been put on alert for signs of infection spreading. 3 minutes ago from Tweetie

Passengers may have infected Qantas crew with H1N1
www.etravelblackboard.com...

USA: Wisconsin: St. Crois County: 1 confirmed case.Source: Wisconsin Department of HealthDate: 27 May 2009, 10:00 GMT2 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Swine flu fear 'out of proportion'
www.abc.net.au...

South Korea confirms three more new flu cases
news.xinhuanet.com...

Swine flu outbreak will likely spur more vaccinations
www.rep-am.com...

Chile's A/H1N1 flu cases reach 165
news.xinhuanet.com...

Swine flu 'not pandemic': WHO
www.citizen.on.ca...

# USA: South Dakota ( Summary ): 6 confirmed cases.Include Minnehaha County Source: South Dakota Dept. of Health Date: 27 may 2009less than a minute ago from twitterfeed

# USA: New York: Schenectady County: 3 confirmed cases. Source: New York State Depart. of Health (pdf) Date: 27 may 2009less than a minute ago from twitterfeed

A/H1N1 flu cases rise to 32 in Ecuador
news.xinhuanet.com...

Swine Flu Outbreak
rmtide.org...

Updated map.www.pandemicflu.gov...

Second child in Pima County dies from swine flu complications
www.azstarnet.com...

Pima County girl 4th Arizonan to die of swine flu
www.kold.com...

Arizona Sees 4th Swine Flu Death
www.myfoxphoenix.com...

Deaths linked to swine flu hit 102 worldwide
www.kdwn.com...

Language Barrier Adds to Swine Flu Mayhem
www.nbcnewyork.com...

Hmmm...
Death Stalks Forgotten Hills
www.kanglaonline.com...

Geographic Dependence, Surveillance, and Origins of the 2009 Influenza A (H1N1) Virus
content.nejm.org...

torstenseemann: is losing his voice (physiologically, not metaphorically). Probably not H1N1 so don't panic :-) 4 minutes ago from web

zhayrar: okay so the H1N1 flu is starting to spread now in the country..omfg. half a minute ago from web

Texanne719: Please pray for jos, doc seriously concerned about swine flu- so not kidding 2 minutes ago from txt

Seattle Lutheran closes with suspected case of swine flu
www.westseattleherald.com...

Swine flu found on Pacific Dawn crew members
www.news.com.au...

Outbreak numbers jump in GTA
www.metronews.ca...

Two cases of swine flu have been confirmed in the East Stroudsburg Area School District in Monroe County.
www.wnep.com...

H1N1 cases, school attendance climb
www.brownsvilleherald.com...

School Nurses On The Frontline In Latest Flu Outbreak
www.ny1.com...

Health officials investigate flu case at Woodbridge school
www.app.com...

3 patients test negative for (A)H1N1, released
www.mindanaotimes.com.ph...

Doctors fear swine flu will evolve and resist Tamiflu
www.brisbanetimes.com.au...

Chinese mainland reports 13th A/H1N1 flu case
www.cctv.com...

Swine flu closes 8th school
www.metro.us...

Tim Buckley on swine flu
www.youtube.com...

Latest Swine Flu Iowa News
www.swineflunews.org...

53 new swine flu cases in Victoria
www.theage.com.au...

Swine Flu Concerns Growing In North Allegheny
www.wpxi.com...

A/H1N1 Flu Spreads to 14th Latin American State
english.cri.cn...

Swine Flu Diagnosed at MPH
www.mountain-news.com...

Egypt: 29 detained on suspicion of bird flu
pandemicinformationnews.blogspot.com...

Suspected Egypt Swine Cases (detected at Airport)
pandemicinformationnews.blogspot.com...

Bird flu virus remains infectious up to 600 days in municipal landfills
pandemicinformationnews.blogspot.com...

90% of flu in Chile caused by A/H1N1 virus
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Defining Flu’s ‘Underlying Conditions’
www.nytimes.com...

'Underlying conditions' may heighten public's fears
The list of conditions cited as contributing to U.S. deaths is so broad it may encompass as many as one in three New Yorkers.
startribune.com

Swine Flu victim's family asks for help
www.abc4.com:80...

# USA: Missouri: Cass County: 1 confirmed case.Source: Missouri Department of HealthDate: 26 May 20092 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# USA: Missouri: Jackson County: 1 confirmed case.Source: Missouri Department of HealthDate: 26 may 20092 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# USA: Missouri: St.Louis City: 2 confirmed cases.Source: Missouri Department of HealthDate: 26 may 20092 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# USA: Idaho: Bonneville County: 1 confirmed case.Source: Idaho Department of healthDate: 27 may 2009, 09:15 GMT2 minutes ago from twitterfeed

# USA: Wisconsin: La Crosse City: 1 confirmed case. Source: Wisconsin Department of Health Date: 27 May 2009, 10:00 GMT2 minutes ago from twitterfeed

[edit on 5/27/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Illinois swine flu deaths: Suburban woman is state's 2nd death
Victim lived in northwest Cook County
Tribune staff report
May 28, 2009
A second Illinois resident from the Chicago area has died of swine flu, according to the state Health Department.

The woman who died had lived in northwest suburban Cook County, a spokeswoman for the Cook County Health Department said. She had other significant medical conditions that increased vulnerability to the H1N1 swine flu virus, the state Health Department said in a news release. Because of confidentiality and "out of respect for the family," the department said it will not release details about the case.

More BS hiding the risk undrer "other medical conditions." More double talk IMO.

Anyone have any of these underlying conditions that can trigger death?

In announcing this week that swine flu had been implicated in the deaths of two more New Yorkers, the city’s health commissioner, Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, added a by-now familiar caveat: Both of them, he said, had “underlying conditions.”

He went on to enumerate a list of conditions that could aggravate the effects of swine flu and that characterize a large portion of New York’s population: diabetes, asthma, heart disease, lung disease, a weakened immune system and, possibly, obesity.

“Many, many people share the same underlying causes that my husband had, and if he’s at risk, many people are at risk,” said Bonnie Wiener, the widow of Mitchell Wiener, 55, the first New Yorker to die of swine flu, on May 17.

She disputed the city’s assertion that underlying conditions were a factor in his death. “He was overweight and he was taking medicine for high blood pressure,” she said. “How many people 50 and above don’t?”

“We were surprised by the frequency of obesity among the severe cases that we’ve been tracking,” Dr. Anne Shuchat, the centers’ director of immunization and respiratory disease, said at a May 19 press conference.[/]

A very interesting read in the MSM. NY times

Wow, the hook on the end of this report caught my eye.
I don't know how trustworthy the source is anyone know it?
If true, remember that they are only hospitalizing the "non mild" cases.

The hook and a link to the full story. Source

(in NY)
Hospitals that normally get about 200 visits to the emergency room each day are getting 2,000 per day, he said, and more than 25,000 people have gone to emergency rooms over the past month. The numbers are highest in Queens, but are increasing in Brooklyn and, to a lesser extent, in the Bronx and Manhattan.

Over the last five days, he said, 20 to 25 people a day have been hospitalized with the flu. Before the weekend, the city had recorded only 57 hospitalizations for flu during the entire preceding 30 days.

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Very good insight...indeed it seems that so far, nearly every U.S fatality is being laid at the feet of "preexisting medical conditions".

How about a 20% increase in Canada overnight

Canadian swine flu infections leap past 1,100
(46 mins ago)
The number of people infected with swine flu in Canada soared past the 1,100 mark with 197 new cases confirmed, according to health officials.

Canada now has 1,118 total A(H1N1) cases, including two deaths, with Ontario province alone recording 495 cases. The country has the largest number of infections after Mexico and the United States.

The Standard

Swine flu: another Canberran tested
www.canberratimes.com.au...

hmmm...a good read
Two More Swine Flu Casualties in New York
crooksandliars.com...

71 close contacts on same flight as Singapore's 1st H1N1 confirmed case
www.channelnewsasia.com...

Chinese FM emphasizes Asia-Europe co-op in tackling global challenges
news.xinhuanet.com...

Italy 2 cases: Now 25
www.lifeinitaly.com...

Australia prepared to quarantine swine flu ship: minister
www.thenews.com.pk...

More than 100 swine flu victims in Australia
www.news.com.au...

Thai Health Ministry: German tourist died of pseudomonas aeruginosa
english.cctv.com...

Swine flu numbers steady in NZ, rise globally
www.nzherald.co.nz...

Swine-flu death shocks family
'Very healthy' Scarborough man, 44, was diabetic, but relatives say his condition was under control
www.thestar.com...

Originally posted by Absum!



Over the last five days, he said, 20 to 25 people a day have been hospitalized with the flu. Before the weekend, the city had recorded only 57 hospitalizations for flu during the entire preceding 30 days.

How long till they run outa beds? and what happens when sick,NY's get pissed off and feel shunned?

Storms acommin..

Originally posted by Absum!
Wow, the hook on the end of this report caught my eye.
I don't know how trustworthy the source is anyone know it?
If true, remember that they are only hospitalizing the "non mild" cases.

The hook and a link to the full story. Source

Crooks and Liars blog, I have read it many times, the blog links to the NYT article....

from Crooks and Liars....

Officials have cited underlying conditions as a factor in all four deaths in the city, but they have not revealed those conditions, citing medical confidentiality.

From the New York Times...

Both patients had underlying health conditions that put them more at risk, he said. He added that he could not say officially whether the flu had caused their deaths until autopsies were finished. Both died on Friday.

www.nytimes.com...

Breaks ones heart... nothing on the WF site. Will need to visit a physical address.

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - He died a week ago, but tonight, the family of Marcos Sanchez, Utah's only Swine Flu death, says they can’t afford to bury him.

To raise money, they're washing cars outside of the Smith's store at 4000 West and 4700 South all to help lay their brother, nephew and son to rest.

“He had a lot of love for people just you know, he'd do anything for anybody,” said Michelle Sanchez, Marcos’ aunt.

The Sanchez family arrived outside that store at 10:30 Wednesday morning, and they plan to stay until about 7:00 Wednesday night.

The family said they still need about $3,000 dollars.

If you can help, go to the car wash, or you can donate money in Marcos' name at Wells Fargo.

Deaths linked to swine flu hit 102 worldwide

PHOENIX (AP) — A fourth person in Arizona has died from complications of swine flu — pushing the world's death toll to 102.
Arizona Department of Health Services spokeswoman Laura Oxley confirmed on Wednesday the death of a girl from Pima County. The county did not give her age but said the child was not yet in her teens.
Illinois officials also announced a swine flu-related death Wednesday of a woman from Cook County. They said the woman had other medical problems that might have made her illness more severe.
The deaths reported Wednesday pushed the total number of fatalities linked to the virus to 16 in the U.S. and 102 worldwide. The deaths of two New Yorkers were linked Tuesday to swine flu.
The virus has sickened more than 12,000 people.
On the Net:
CDC: www.cdc.gov...

So now the US count on deaths is at 16.

I was wondering about this, and the stronger immune response pregnancy brings...

Among 20 pregnant women in the United States confirmed to have been infected with the new flu virus, three required hospitalization and one who had started anti-viral therapy 13 days after onset died.

2 of 5 pregnant women developed complications, including spontaneous abortion. Or 40 out of 100.

Source

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