Mysterious U.S. Swine Flu Probe Widens as Mexico Finds Swine Flu *updated*

Many Swine Flu Cases Have No Fever
May 12 2009
www.nytimes.com...

Many people suffering from swine influenza, even those who are severely ill, do not have fever, an odd feature of the new virus that could increase the difficulty of controlling the epidemic, said a leading American infectious-disease expert who examined cases in Mexico last week.

Fever is a hallmark of influenza, often rising abruptly to 104 degrees at the onset of illness. Because many infectious disease experts consider fever the most important sign of the disease, the presence of fever is a critical part of screening patients.

But about a third of the patients at two hospitals in Mexico City where the American expert, Dr. Richard P. Wenzel, consulted for four days last week had no fever when screened, he said.

“It surprised me and my Mexican colleagues, because the textbooks say that in an influenza outbreak the predictive value of fever and cough is 90 percent,” Dr. Wenzel said by telephone from Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, where he is chairman of the department of internal medicine.

More at Link...

WHO: Europe uses more drugs against swine flu
3 hours ago
www.google.com...

H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu): Resources for Laboratories
www.cdc.gov...

Huh...neither our NAU Flu, or the "Bacon" thread showed up in that top banner... *shrugs*

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But this did?!?

The new flu, an analytical approach...Hmmm
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I just sent them a "Alert"

The new flu, an analytical approach Thread makes the Top Banner, but, not...

Mysterious U.S. Swine Flu Probe Widens as Mexico Finds Swine Flu *updated*

Swine Flu news and updates thread

Hmmm...a serious flaw in yer computations

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7-Year-Old Latest Case Of H1N1
Health Officials Say Child Doing Well
3:50 pm EDT May 12, 2009
www.wmur.com...

Health department reports H1N1 cases in Millsboro, Milford
www.sussexcountian.com...

New case of H1N1 in Tippecanoe
Indiana total stands at 70
www.wlfi.com...

Updated: Tuesday, 12 May 2009, 5:16 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 12 May 2009, 5:07 PM EDT

Colombia confirms three new cases of A/H1N1 flu
2009-05-13 05:34:17
news.xinhuanet.com...

Canada's confirmed A/H1N1 flu cases rise to 358
2009-05-13 05:33:00
news.xinhuanet.com...

Utah has 72 confirmed H1N1 flu cases
www.sltrib.com...

Marshall county up to 46 confirmed cases of H1N1
www.timesrepublican.com...

H1N1 flu cases up to 48 in Colorado
1 hr ago
www.9news.com...

First Confirmed Case of H1N1 In Brazos County
5:29 PM May 12, 2009
www.kbtx.com...

In-Europe Cases of Swine Flu Leapt Over the Weekend
MAY 12, 2009
online.wsj.com...

Ten suspected swine flu cases investigated
12 May 2009
news.scotsman.com...

WHO, flu experts looking into claim H1N1 swine flu evolved in lab, not nature
1 hour ago
www.google.com...

Autopsy links Snohomish County man's death to swine flu — despite family's skepticism
seattletimes.nwsource.com...

Clinical Data Collection Forms and Templates for Collection of Information on Patients Infected with Novel Influenza A (H1N1)
May 12, 2009 3:00 PM ET
www.cdc.gov...

Back Door:
Health authorities prepare to limit flu drug use
www.reuters.com...

As swine flu spreads, who should get Tamiflu?
May 12, 4:53 PM EDT
hosted.ap.org...

@ whoshotJR:
Economic woes hurt Medicare, Social Security
www.reuters.com...

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Hmmm... *Crickets Chirping* *Shrugs*

3 New Confirmed Cases Of H1N1 Flu Virus In Ontario
www.newswire.ca...

Havana, Cuba: 1 confirmed case. Source: AP (english) Date: 12 May 2009, 05:00 GMT3 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Southwest Health District, Minnesota, USA: 1 confirmed case. Source: Minnesota Dept. of Health Date: 12 May 2009, 16:00 GMT3 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Southeast Health District, Minnesota, USA: 1 confirmed case. Source: Minnesota Dept. of Health Date: 12 May 2009, 16:00 GMT3 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Central Health District, Minnesota, USA: 3 confirmed cases. Source: Minnesota Dept. of Health Date: 12 May 2009, 16:00 GMT3 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Metro Health District, Minnesota, USA: 26 confirmed cases. Source: Minnesota Dept. of Health Date: 12 May 2009, 16:00 GMT3 minutes ago from twitterfeed

33-year-old woman is latest probable victim of H1N1
www.idahostatesman.com...

Yukon confirms 1st swine flu case
05/12/09 2:53PM
news.aol.ca...
www.google.com...

Wisconsin has 496 confirmed cases of swine flu
4:45 PM CDT, May 12, 2009
www.chicagotribune.com...

Swine flu suspect in Shandong
2009-5-13
www.shanghaidaily.com...

Novel Influenza A (H1N1) Virus Infections in Three Pregnant Women --- United States, April--May 2009
www.cdc.gov...

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Utah: State Health Officials Confirm 72 Cases of Influenza A (H1N1) Statewide. #swineflu8 minutes ago from web

US, Wisconsin: State Health Officials Confirm 496 Cases of Influenza A (H1N1). #swineflu9 minutes ago from web

Hmmm...
County Dealing With Whooping Cough Outbreak
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:36 PM
www.10tv.com...

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Thanks for the great work you are doing! - stars for you friend

Keep the pressure up but don't forget to rest, we don't want you to burn out!

About 1/3rd of swine flu victims aren't getting a fever??

www.nytimes.com...

Very interesting...and glad that info is getting out there because I am sure there are lots of people who think if they don't have a fever they don't have it, which isn't good because they will be out in the community.

Brazil has 32 suspected flu cases: health ministry
2009-05-13 09:21:44
news.xinhuanet.com...

China reports 63 entry passengers with fever in past two days
2009-05-12 23:50:11
news.xinhuanet.com...

Confirmed cases of A/H1N1 flu in Panama rises to 29
2009-05-13 09:22:42
news.xinhuanet.com...

Costa Rica reports 840 possible cases of A/H1N1 flu
2009-05-13 09:23:33
news.xinhuanet.com...

Probable Case of H1N1 Flu In Santa Barbara County
May 12, 2009, 12:51 PM
www.edhat.com...

State Reports 9 New Swine Flu Cases
5/12/2009
www.wibc.com...

Hmmm...
No Emergency, So Why Do You Hear Sirens?
(MOBILE, Ala.) May 12
www.nbc15online.com...

Tornado sirens went off about 20 mins ago in Columbia, Missouri but the NWS says they went off by accident. #WarningFailabout 3 hours ago from TweetDeck

Landmark Study Reveals Significant Genetic Variation Between Mexico's Population And World's Other Known Genetic Subgroups
(May 12, 2009)
www.sciencedaily.com...

kellyleerules: I think I have swine flu. . I am not kidding either. . I feel like I am dying. . every muscle in my body hurts wtf?! less than 10 seconds ago from twidroid

okparrotthead: home after a very long day at work and my poor little baby is sick (she is 15) might have the swine flu lol 2 minutes ago from web

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WHO, flu experts looking into claim H1N1 swine flu evolved in lab, not nature
6 minutes ago
www.google.com...

More Santa Clara County swine flu cases identified
05/12/2009 05:48:07 PM PDT
www.mercurynews.com...

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What no fever That is an interesting piece of information, this deserves some investigating. I wonder how many people that actually had/have this flu aren't being tested because they don't have a fever ?

I see you're here all by yourself again Omega

reply to post by chise61
Yep...

Been a low count drop-in poster day

But...I'm used to it...they don't have to post...just assimilate the Intel/Info I dig up

Ievzii: all day @ home.still sick.ache dont wanna go away and all tha other simptoms off tha flu.feeling so tired.hopin its not swine flu..lol less than 20 seconds ago from web



[edit on 5/12/2009 by Hx3_1963]

i have a couple misgivings about this flu

first they said it was a hybrid.
then they said - no we are wrong its just swine.
then i read an article a couple of days ago that suggested "this particular hybrid strain can mutate" - back to hybrid

then i read a pakastani was amonst the first dead in mexico
then nothing more about it

I am suspect that virologists who spend their whole lives on the subject are suddenly confounded to the point of changing their minds?

something is afoot -



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Ontario reports 3 new confirmed cases of swine flu; provincial total at 113
26 minutes ago
www.google.com...

Mexico denies swine flu cover-up
news.bbc.co.uk...

Despite a drop in the number of people in isolation for swine flu, health officials say stringent borders controls will stay in place.
1:38pm on 13 May 2009
www.radionz.co.nz...

Swine Flu in Mexico

Under60: @vivianakacreoen - I'm recovering from a very bad virus! I haven't been this sic n years! It's not swine flu. Flues r respiratory. Not mine less than a minute ago from web

xdestineyx: been sick for a week now and cant go to school because im not aloud to go if im sick i hope to god its not the swine flu!!!!!!!! less than a minute ago from web

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That's because you do such a good job at getting the itntel for us to assimilate

If i had my own army you would be my number one 5 star general in charge of Recon

Good find on this

www.google.com...

Gibbs, who studies the evolution of viruses, said the genes of the novel H1N1 look like they evolved at a faster rate than would have been expected if the virus had just emerged from pigs.

While that could mean the virus spent some time evolving in another, intermediary host - Gibbs listed birds or marine mammals as possibilities - the unusual evolutionary speed could also have been the product of the virus was being grown in eggs in a laboratory, he said.

That raises the spectre of human error resulting in the accidental release of the virus, Gibbs suggested Tuesday from his home in Canberra.

Nice to know there are others that at least explore the chance that this is man made, or altered.

"We don't see evidence that there's accelerated evolution indicating that there would have been a new host that the virus was introduced into, be it eggs or any other host," said Dr. Nancy Cox, head of the influenza division at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta.

As if they would really say anything different.

Gavin Smith, a researcher trying to trace the origins of the new virus, criticized Gibbs for publicizing his claim before publishing his analyses in a peer-reviewed journal.

Peer review would have allowed people knowledgeable about flu virus evolution to kick the tires, so to speak, of this theory and then decide whether alarms needed to be sounded.

In laymens terms, it would have allowed them to come up with a believable cover story.

"I think it's irresponsible to be making those conclusions before anything has been sent for peer-review," said Smith, a virologist and evolutionary biologist at the University of Hong Kong.

Again, he didn't give us enough time for a cover story.

"Obviously they are claims that would need to be investigated. And I just worry that it's going to divert attention away from more pressing issues."

He just worries that it will attract attention to government and government scientists

reply to post by chise61
Star 4 U!

Glad to see SOMEONE's out there...today really reminds of the "The Omega Man"

Like...WTH...what happened to everyone?!? *Chirp...Chirp...Chirp...*

Novel H1N1 Influenza in Alabama
www.adph.org...

Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals
www.dhh.louisiana.gov...

Parents Concerned About H1N1 At Riverview
9:57 pm CDT May 12, 2009
www.kmbc.com...

shadyminor: WHO, flu experts looking into claim swine flu evolved in lab, this is fantastic. Who would have thought such a thing. 3 minutes ago from web

MatCab: So sick plz body dont have swine flu less than a minute ago from txt

michele69: hey kat, you're feeling sick? I hope its not the swine flu..stay home, don't give it me.hahah..just kidding..hope you feel better. 2 minutes ago from web

paolo_lorenzana: The zombie vid to Mike Skinner's swine flu song ("He's Behind You, He's Got Swine Flu"). Glad I'm not the only one thinking 28 days later. 1 minute ago from web

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Okay......Hx3 you are sounding like you spilt your milk......

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Hx-

I read about Obama's investments in the biotech company, and posted a similar articl on another thread about his having made the stock purchases in '07. Please correct me if I'm mistaken in the timeframe, but it seems that not only WHO and CDC had advanced knowledge of this outbreak, but so did Obama whilst campaigning. His choice of biotech stock is rather glaring- it's not as if he bought Genetech or something- he bought shares in a small start-up biotech that SPECIFICALLY dealrs with influenza outbreaks, vaccine manufacture, etc. I can only deduce that this is an event that was well known by all of those in a position to profit from it (not to mention Roche investments, etc,).

Peace

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Oh yeah Hx3. You have a few fans here. You and ecoparty are being watched very closely. You two are provideing all of us here at ATS with great news and insight and even though not everyone of us are thanking you

THANK YOU

Your providing us with a great resource on your own dime.. Thank you.



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Originally posted by Hx3_1963

Glad to see SOMEONE's out there...today really reminds of the "The Omega Man"

I thought the same exact thing when i came on and saw you here all by yourself

I'm here for awhile, just reading your links, oh sorry i meant assimilating your intel

Had a laugh at the video you posted, i guess they're missing the tourist's money down there.

Edit to add a bit of local news;

This is a very good

idea...www.suntimes.com...

The last thing Illinios needs is this woman as govenor

www.suntimes.com...

www.suntimes.com...

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reply to post by CultureD
Stars 4 All!!!



Obomba's original "blind" investments started in 2005 and were in the small start-up and a satellite company...funny...GPS census now and the NAU Flu...

NOT...it's got to all be part of the De-Population Equation...

Thank ALL of You fer the Kind Words!!!

clvivi: Swine flu becoming serious,try your best to prevent it. half a minute ago from web

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I star all your posts!

Hey there, hello all! Many thanks to Hx3_1963 The Omega Man for keeping this thead updated and full of great information!

Thanks to all for posting some very genuine information last two days!

Was out for a bit...caught some bug bot do not think it was flu related...
but too yuck to post!


Our Future?
Hospitals Begin to Move Into Supermarkets
www.nytimes.com...