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Mysterious U.S. Swine Flu Probe Widens as Mexico Finds Swine Flu *updated*

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posted on May, 8 2009 @ 09:57 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Good morning to you......Thanks, I will use one of those pictures

Do you have any updates for Fort Worth Tx?? I show 24 confirmed by the CDC as of three days ago.......I have a relative going there and I am attempting to convince other wise.......

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:00 AM

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Swine Flu UK swine flu genetics unravelled - BBC News: swine flu genetics unravelledBB.. /oxzpl8about 2 hours ago from twitterfeed

Swine Flu How about having a swine flu party? - Toronto Star: How about having a swine flu party?Toront.. /ql4f5pabout 4 hours ago from twitterfeed

Swine Flu Pair to leave swine flu hotel - The Press Association: ABC NewsPair to leave swine flu hotelT.. /rdwuddabout 4 hours ago from twitterfeed

WHO may shorten annual assembly because of flu 6 hours ago from

@ Cloudsinthesky: Actually I haven't seen many updates for that area in the past day or two, so, your numbers are my best bet
Here's why...

North Texas Swine Flu Numbers; New Reporting Rules

Number Of Confirmed Texas Swine Flu Cases Now Stands at 90
May 7th, 2009

[edit on 5/8/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:13 AM
link we have a "Race" between Wi & Ill ?

And I'm noticing new country's now in the "List"

Wisconsin: State Officials Confirm 233 Cases of Influenza A (H1N1) Statewide: Date: May 08, 2009 15:05 UTC Risk: Medium Local media s..1 minute ago from twitterfeed

Research Institute for Tropical Medicines: 12 Year-Old Case Under Observation for Influenza A (H1N1); Travel to the United States Noted: ..1 minute ago from twitterfeed

Ngoc Lu Commune: 19-Year-Old Female Under Quarantine Pending for Influenza A (H1N1): Date: May 08, 2009 14:49 UTC Risk: Medium Nhan D..1 minute ago from twitterfeed

Ebersberg County: One New Case of Influenza A (H1N1) Confirmed Bringing National Case Count to Eleven: Date: May 08, 2009 14:46 UTC R..2 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Bulgaria: Ministry of Health Spokesperson Noted Six Suspected Cases of Influenza A (H1N1): Date: May 08, 2009 14:39 UTC Risk: Medium ..2 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Mexico confirms 45th death from swine flu
42 minutes ago

Swine Flu No swine flu at Victoria school, tests show - CBC.caNo swine flu at Victoria school, .. /pvp6548 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Quarantine ends at Hong Kong swine flu hotel
5 hours ago

@ Cloudsinthesky: Some additional Intel fer ya

[edit on 5/8/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Chevalerous

Yes, I am aware that developing nations have decent hospitals and more than one would think usually.

They also have insane income disparity which does impact their care and access to medicine and alternative options.

In China you can be in and out of a hospital with every test you need run on site by the end of the day.

Developing nations have the advantage that they can access tried and true advanced technology and medicine without the testing out and expense of the beginning phases. This means that they will roll out advances in a far different way that occurs in the First World. They also have more economic constraints, which means that good adminstrations will effectively and aggressively pursue better and faster options in processing and bureaucracy.

Do *I* have access even if I'm poor? Yes. I live in Canada.

Mortality still correlates to income level.

"Mortality still correlates to income level" In some way yes! but...

I think the main problem with the poor people and the rural areas of Mexico is that when people get sick they use their old ancestors Herbal Folk Medicine - which is very good for common cold etc. Instead of seeking modern treatment at a modern hospital.

But the problem with this is that often in a severe emergency with a Bacterial Pneumonia Infection the Herbal Folk Medicine & hygine it's not good enough to cure them - so unfortunately, they die!

So I think this is also one of the main reason of why the morality rate is bigger in Mexico beside what you said about income level. It's all related of course!

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:21 AM
Here's the long awaited response from the local hospial with reference to the removal of the hand sanitizers!!

Your enquiry, pasted below, has been sent to me to respond to.
I am pleased that you have made good use of the hand cleaning facilities in the past.
The reason for the removal of hand gel at entrances is in response to an alert from the National Patient Safety Agency which advised of two deaths of members of the public who had been drinking the hand gel in public areas. All NHS settings were required to review the placement of gel.

Both the 'Clean Your Hands' campaign and the World Health Organisation ' Five moments for hand hygiene' initiative stress the importance of hand cleaning at the point of care.
This is because the greatest risk of transmission of infection is from the hands of healthcare staff as they move between patients.

Hand gel is available at the point of care throughout the Trust and is also available at the exit of clinical areas to allow visitors to clean their hands as they leave.

Trust staff are trained and tested in hand cleaning techniques and compliance with hand hygiene is audited in all clinical areas at least monthly using systems designed by the Department of Health.

I have pasted links below for further information.

I hope this response is helpful to you.

Lisa Johnson

I escorted my daughter to the hospital yesterday afternoon for a dentist appointment, as I have done many times in the past, and was absolutely outraged and disgusted to find that there were no hand sanitizers to be found anywhere in the hospital for public use. I've already said that I've been to your hospital many times and I know where the hand sanitizers were; now they have been removed. I demand to know why? How on earth do you expect to contain illness and viruses etc? This is in direct contravention to what your posters indicate, how can we clean our hands if you've removed the hand sanitizers? I expect a responce.

Lisa Johnson
Nurse Consultant/Deputy DIPC
01726 627983

Make what you may of it?

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:23 AM
Seems everyone is adapting these new rules...Hmmm

US, Arizona: State officials confirm 130 influenza A (H1N1) cases; further testing will only be conducted on hospitalized patients #swineflu2 minutes ago from web

And fer you Google Earth users...

A post from xoxo stacie...she had sent me a u2u last nite about this and asked me to convey this to users, but, in my attempt to sanitize it, she beat me to it

[edit on 5/8/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:38 AM
reply to post by saratoga123

Sorry! I know their deaths are very tragic but the respone of your email was unfortunately a little bit funny to read!

members of the public who had been drinking the hand gel in public areas

WTF! were those 'members' the cheap wino-types of the public or...?

Whats the matter with some people? - drinking hand gel!

[edit on 8-5-2009 by Chevalerous]

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:41 AM
reply to post by EDteach

I saw that too! Poor Piglet! Thanks for posting that!

Good Morning all!

Less news about the NAU flu today...found this did not see it posted.

Swine flu origins mysterious in 'genetic arms race'

But the genetic lineage of the virus does offer useful clues, she said. Cooperation among the United States, Canada and Mexico in every step of the investigation has been profound, she said. By contrast, Indonesia has refused to share bird flu samples with the World Health Organization in the past.

Some researchers say it's not surprising that a new virus such as 2009 H1N1 would seem to have its focal point in Mexico.

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:46 AM
RT @CDCFlu Daily update: (5/8/09): 1639 confirmed cases of novel H1N1 flu, 2 deaths & 43 states affected in US: http://(link tracking not allowed)/X0uUO3 minutes ago from web

Swine Flu Daily Update - H1N1 (Swine Flu) (5/8/09) : CDC continues to take aggressive action to respon.. /os6ddc5 minutes ago from twitterfeed

H1N1 Flu Resources for Businesses and Employers

Swine Flu UPDATED - H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu) and You: Updated with: What is CDC’s recommendation rega.. /olpclp5 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Grrr...I hate those links...thinking of passing these up in the future

[edit on 5/8/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:49 AM
reply to post by saratoga123


People were drinking the hand sanitzer?

Sad, maybe they did! I have heard of some people drinking rubbing alcohol, makes them sick. But hand sanitizer, it is so gel like...


This just popped up on the net.
WHO Director-General's address to the ASEAN+3 Health Ministers’ Special Meeting on Influenza A(H1N1), 08 May 2009

Second, H5N1 has conditioned the public to equate an influenza pandemic with very severe disease and high mortality. Such a disease pattern is by no means inevitable during a pandemic. On the contrary, it is exceptional.

From past experience, ASEAN+3 countries know what it means to be at centre-stage during the outbreak of a new disease. We must battle misperceptions with the facts, and respond to the disease with the facts. I know you will help me on this front as well.

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 10:53 AM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Hey your the it the tinyurl ones?


Swine Flu, TARP Rules Sway NBTA Agenda

A swirl of rhetoric and regulation in Washington is posing challenges to the corporate travel industry—from travel guidelines for companies receiving funds under the Troubled Asset Relief Program to the more recent round of rhetoric regarding travel in the time of swine flu—and have taken center stage in the National Business Travel Association's lobbying efforts.......
........"I've been doing work for the travel industry in this type of role for the past three years, and it's been the busiest few months I've ever seen," said Monument founder and partner Stewart Verdery, NBTA's government affairs consultant. "That's because the industry is under a lot of stress."

[edit on 8-5-2009 by burntheships]

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:03 AM
reply to post by Chevalerous

I must admit I laughed out loud,after I had reread it because I thought I read it wrongly!

Funny thing is we never heard anything about this in the local press ,so I am in two minds whether to believe it!

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:05 AM

WHO maintains flu alert at 5, confirms Brazil cases
Fri May 8, 2009 11:30am EDT

GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Health Organization said on Friday it was keeping its global pandemic alert at level 5 out of 6, given the H1N1 flu strain has not yet gained momentum outside the Americas.

Sylvie Briand, acting director of the WHO's global influenza program, said most people infected with the new strain around the world had imported the virus by traveling to Mexico or being in close proximity with those who had.

"We still remain in stage five. We have no evidence of community transmission," Briand told a news conference, also announcing Brazil's first four infections with the new flu.
More at Link...

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:10 AM

Warm weather may not halt swine flu
16:16 08 May 2009

New data from Mexico and case numbers so far suggest that if the spread of H1N1 "swine flu" continues elsewhere as it has in the Americas, the virus could infect more than a billion people by July.

The data also suggests that the virus may not be slowed by summer temperatures in temperate countries. However, it spreads slowly enough to respond to the "social distancing" measures used in Mexico.

2009 H1N1 has been circulating, geneticists estimate, since last autumn, but it was first recognized in Mexico in April. New data released by the Mexican health ministry (pdf) reveals disturbing similarities with the last H1N1 pandemic, in 1918.
More at Link...

Expert warns of a swine flu-bird flu mix

Friday, 8 May 2009

CDC confirms 10 more Conn. swine flu cases
05/08/2009 11:39:22 AM EDT

Likely swine flu cases up to 31 in Alabama
May 08, 2009 10:12 AM

Swine Flu and the Great Flu Pandemic of 1918-19: The Similarities and What History Can Teach Us

simbasmama: The H1N1 cases keep climbing in our Iowa Community. Hope our school kids don't get sick now that they have reopened the schools here. 1 minute ago from web

Etchasketchist: swine flu mask lady sat next to me on train. she didn't get the memo. that spit is so last week. half a minute ago from mobile web

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posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:23 AM
Brookline confirms three swine flu cases

The Importance of Complementary Medicine in fighting the threat of Swine Flu

[edit on 5/8/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:24 AM
Good morning all

Well they've been saying that the cases here have slowed, but i can't see it. Today's numbers aren't showing it that's for sure.

Yesterday Chicago had 122 cases, that has jumped up to 171, for an increase of 49 cases.

Cook county had 56 cases, that has jumped to 105, an increase of 49 cases.

Illinois had 258 cases, that jumped to 394 cases, Total increase in Illinois in one day 136 cases.

So my county now has 276 cases, 171 of them in my city

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:30 AM
reply to post by chise61
Looking grimmer eh?

Wisconsin and Arizona aren't far behind today

Swine flu cases double in the US
8/05/2009 at 11:30 PM

British scientists crack swine flu code as world tally rises to 2,384

All 6 Hillsborough cases confirmed as swine flu - Tampa Tribune: Tampa TribuneAll 6 Hillsborough cases confirmed.. /optmyr6 minutes ago from twitterfeed

#H1N1 case alert: Hidalgo, Mexico: 1 confirmed dead. Source: Mexican Minsitry of Health, (pdf in Spanish) Date: 6 May ..6 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Two more probable Scotland swine flu cases
Page last updated at 15:36 GMT

12-year-old swine flu victim told 'you're going to die' in cruel text message

Swine flu pandemic: Silent invasions and deadly consequences

I see a upward trend in personal flu stories

joeltelling: @subterrane dude, there is a confirmed case of 2009 H1N1 in the school district my mom works in. 3 minutes ago from TweetDeck

megfowler: flat out unhappy today. chronic sickness sucks, especially when everyone thinks it's funny to make swine flu jokes about it. less than 20 seconds ago from web

angelaperry: My son has come down with the flu. His symptoms match swine flu symptoms, although not too serious yet. Guess we'll wait and watch. 1 minute ago from web

Sessa51: Sitting at the doc again I am gonna freak if I have swine flu
less than a minute ago from Tweetie

joeduck: @MarchMoon "I'm STILL ALIVE!" shouts man in "I survived Swine Flu T-Shirt" just before his bicycle is hit by a bus with driver texting . less than a minute ago from web

subterrane: @joeltelling Let's run over there and lick the doorhandles and desks! Maybe we can catch it. Mmmmm, H1N1. Yum. 1 minute ago from web

NegativePulse: Fake, but awesome. Swine flu zombies anyone? half a minute ago from TweetDeck

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posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:48 AM
Here's the 3rd I've seen today...Tx/Az/Nv...Hmmm

Vegas health officials change swine flu policy
May 8, 2009 11:50 AM

Mexican swine flu: First Alleyn's School parent confirmed among five new cases

Possible Case of Swine Flu in Duval County

Sydney: Five Suspected Influenza A (H1N1) Cases Registered: Date: May 08, 2009 16:21 UTC Risk: Medium The updated bulletin by the New..3 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Sarasota County: County Officials Identify Two Probable Cases of Influenza A (H1N1): Date: May 08, 2009 16:10 UTC Risk: Medium Local ..3 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Kaliningradskaya Oblast: 2,688 Cases of Acute Respiratory Viral Infection Registered between 27 April and 3 May : Date: May 08, 2009 ..3 minutes ago from twitterfeed

Hong Kong: Five Individuals Undergoing Testing for Influenza A (H1N1): Date: May 08, 2009 15:10 UTC Risk: Medium Multiple local based..3 minutes ago from twitterfeed

H1N1 concerns in Quincy school district

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posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:54 AM
The death cases in Mexico inmy opinion had been because we delay going to the doctor. poor people encounter a real hassle in the gov hospitals, and private doctor costs plus the added price of medicines will make many go with automedication, not herbal remedies, not at all, people go and buy perscription medicines and swallow them. Not only uneducated ones, no, we are all guilty of that at some time but this was not just a simple cold and for many it quickly developed into something life lesson here

posted on May, 8 2009 @ 11:56 AM
US, Florida: State Officials Confirm 23 Cases of Influenza A (H1N1) Statewide #swineflu1 minute ago from web

Swine Flu H1N1 Cases and Symptoms

Possible case of H1N1 at Cornell College

Swine flu outbreak causes tensions between China and Mexico.

Tight security keeps hog population safe from disease

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