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Mysterious U.S. Swine Flu Probe Widens as Mexico Finds Swine Flu *updated*

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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
Follow-up on earlier tweet



Second strain of flu may complicate picture-study
www.alertnet.org...

06 May 2009 15:02:09 GMT
Source: Reuters
* Mutations seen in seasonal flu strain

* May have caused Canadian late-season outbreak

* May complicate picture in Mexico

By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor

WASHINGTON, May 6 (Reuters) - A second strain of influenza, one of the seasonal strains, may have mutated and may be complicating the picture in Mexico, Canadian researchers reported on Wednesday.

They have found a strain of the H3N2 virus that appears to have made a shift and could have complicated the flu picture in Mexico, epicenter of an outbreak of a new strain of the H1N1 swine flu virus.
More at Link...


Hx3_1963 Star for You!!!

Aaahhhh! Yes! Ahem! Pay particular attention to this snippet!

"In early March 2009, however, we detected additional differences from the vaccine strain among British Columbia viruses collected from facility outbreak settings." They only found these changes in flu samples taken from patients in care facilities.


Hate to eve say aloud what I am thinking!




posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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France: Institute for Public Health Confirms Two New Influenza A (H1N1) Cases; Total Nationwide Reaches Seven Cases. #swinefluless than a minute ago from web

16-year-old who had swine flu prepares to return to Branham High
www.mercurynews.com...

PA Dept. of Health Investigating Possible Swine Flu Case in Franklin Co.
your4state.com...

AlexHervaud: The Streets + grippe porcine + zombies, merveileux RT @skinnermike : a lecture on Swine Flu http://(link tracking not allowed)/avWdS (expand)
less than 10 seconds ago from TwitterFox


crazytxmommy: Getting ready to go look at houses again. I swear to God, if my kids act like fools Swine Flu will be the least of their worries.
less than 20 seconds ago from web



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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what are you thinking ?



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:52 AM
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US, Illinois: State health officials confirm 225 cases of influenza A (H1N1) mostly concentrated in the Cook County-Chicago area. #swineflu2 minutes ago from web

builtbybosche: Evidence suggests that Face masks don't protect you from other peoples swine flu. But does protect them from your infection if you wear one less than 20 seconds ago from web

ridethenews: The CDC confirmed 5 cases in Pinal County of the H1N1 virus. All 5 individuals reside in Pinal Co. or on tribal land within county borders.
less than 20 seconds ago from web

[edit on 5/6/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:53 AM
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Good point of intoduction...patients in care homes, used as "expeimental patients". Aka known as Guinea Pigs! Seems to unlikely to have been a coincidence!


[edit on 6-5-2009 by burntheships]



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Chevalerous

Could this mean that a lot of tests taken from people through nasal swabs etc, that turned up to be negative when the tests were taken - now could be wrong and are unreliable?


Maybe that's why they seem to be switching to throat swabs now. I read an article about them using throat swabs on monday, but i can't find it now.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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really, looking at this how it is and how its comming across on ATS, can, do, will governments do this sort of stuff ?



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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Back Door:
Deals Near for UN Agencies to Buy Vaccine for H1N1 Flu
blogs.wsj.com...



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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I just wanted to ask (probably I am have a brain meltdown moment and just cannot think of a reason.) why are the kids going back to school when there have been cases of infection at that school ?

I know they are trying to play this down but surely,and I think I am probably misguided in my trust here,they are still trying to contain it to a certain degree?

Just how long is deemed to be safe?



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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Nice response
makes you kinda wonder.

They have beeen stressing hand washing since this thing first came out. So when they go and remove the hand sanitizers that have been in place for so long, you gotta wonder if they aren't attempting to make this thing spread



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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If ya look back through BTS's posts you can see they do it routinely to .gov military types that do know, so, what's to stop them from doing it to sick/elderly citizens without them knowing...


@ saratoga123: *I think* they're trying to build some kind of resistance to it, but, it's mutating as we post


US, California: State officials confirm 27 cases of influenza A (H1N1) in San Diego County, five of which are in naval servicemen. #swineflu5 minutes ago from web

CDC guidance for schools: students & staff who are sick should stay home: bitly.com... #swineflu #h1n16 minutes ago from web

[edit on 5/6/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by binkatonka
reply to post by burntheships
 

really, looking at this how it is and how its comming across on ATS, can, do, will governments do this sort of stuff ?


Absolutley! It is a sad but accepted truth! I am sorry to be bursting anyone's warm fuzzy view of the government...but the truth is that governments have and will continue to do exactly that!

Sources to read up on...

www.naturalnews.com...

www.prisonplanet.com...

www.abc.net.au...

edit to add: Good for you for asking questions! Please ask all the questions you think of, as that is what makes ATS so good!
There are some great thinkers here!


[edit on 6-5-2009 by burntheships]



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:10 PM
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Follow-up to earlier tweet...

Seems to contradict the earlier story huh? Hmmm...


Swine flu is same strain in Canada and Mexico
www.cbc.ca...

Canadian scientists who sequenced Canadian and Mexican samples of the swine flu virus say it is the same strain, even though the virus seems to cause more severe symptoms in Mexico.

Scientists at Health Canada's National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg genetically sequenced and compared samples of the H1N1 flu virus from Nova Scotia, Ontario and Mexico. It's the first time the sequence has been completed on samples from Mexico and Canada, said officials during a news conference in Ottawa Wednesday.

The results have ruled out a mutation to explain why the Mexican cases have been much more severe than elsewhere, said Dr. Frank Plummer, the chief science adviser of the national lab.

"Essentially, what it appears to suggest, is that there is nothing at the genetic level that differentiates this virus that we got from Mexico and those from Nova Scotia and Ontario, that explains apparent differences in disease severity between Mexico and Canada and the United States," said Plummer.


[edit on 5/6/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
Back Door:
Deals Near for UN Agencies to Buy Vaccine for H1N1 Flu
blogs.wsj.com...


Star for You!

You know, I read about stuff like this 15 years ago...it seemed so conpiratorial at the time to think such things! Honestly, I am remebering conversations I had with people about such stuff...at the time it almost seemed like science fiction!



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:15 PM
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Lake County, Indiana, USA: 2 confirmed cases. Source: ABC WCPO Date: 5 May 2009, 20:40 GMT1 minute ago from twitterfeed

US, Massachusetts: Health officials confirm 35 cases of influenza A (H1N1) with the majority of cases in Middlesex County #swinefluhalf a minute ago from web

Aladag: One Suspected Case of Influenza A (H1N1) Identified: Date: May 06, 2009 16:33 UTC Risk: Medium Cihan News Agency, a national ..half a minute ago from twitterfeed

Moscow: Two Suspected Cases of Influenza A (H1N1) Registered; Recent Travel to Mexico Noted : Date: May 06, 2009 16:30 UTC Risk: Medi..half a minute ago from twitterfeed

Lake County: Total of Four Influenza A (H1N1) Cases Confirmed; One Probable Case Still Under Investigation: Date: May 06, 2009 16:27 ..less than a minute ago from twitterfeed

Veracruz: Second Case of Influenza A (H1N1) Confirmed: Date: May 06, 2009 16:25 UTC Risk: Medium El Financiero, a national media sour..less than a minute ago from twitterfeed

Will County: Total of 15 Influenza A (H1N1) Cases Confirmed: Date: May 06, 2009 16:24 UTC Risk: Medium Two local media sources and th..less than a minute ago from twitterfeed

Trial by fire: New antibody method gets big test r.reuters.com... minutes ago from Reuters.com

Pork producer ad blitz no instant cure for flu fears r.reuters.com... minutes ago from Reuters.com

Flu communicators face tweets, fans and zombies r.reuters.com... minutes ago from Reuters.com


@ BTS: look up...


Back Door:
AIG to post $5 billion loss: source
www.reuters.com...

Major banks funded U.S. subprime lenders: study
www.reuters.com...

Councillors apologise for making swine flu jokes as authority was dealing with two confirmed cases
telegraph.co.uk

[edit on 5/6/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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US, California: State officials confirm 99 cases of influenza A (H1N1) statewide. #swineflu3 minutes ago from web

muttonofthesea: Feeling better today. Is it swine flu? Not planning to go to the doctor, so I guess we'll never know.
less than 20 seconds ago from web

[edit on 5/6/2009 by Hx3_1963]



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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Flu Protocol ~
Gwen Scott, N.D.‏


In light of the recent “swine” flu outbreak,
I have been asked to write a natural medicine flu protocol.
We are told that this “flu” is a “re-assortment flu.” That was certainly a new term for me after 30-years in health care. The CDC explained that four viruses came together somehow (human, two bird, and one pig strain) from different parts of the world to form this new “swine” flu. No matter how it came to be, it certainly is virulent and sometimes deadly.

I submit my best effort here for those who don’t want to take drugs (assuming they work at all.) At the first sign of a flu (sneezing, elevated temperature, muscle and joint aches, coughing, etc.) this is what I do. I spray my nose with colloidal silver (10ppm.) I do this often and continue until I am well. I also take colloidal silver internally. I find sipping as much as I can at the beginning often stops the process. I cannot, by law, prescribe amounts, but you can do a little research and decide on what level is good for you. I use 10ppm.

I have my own colloidal silver maker and suggest everyone make that investment. It is important that the maker “cooks” the silver properly (see July-August 2008 Nexus article “Stem Cells The Silver Connection www.nexusmagazine.com) because some of the low end machines don’t formulate the colloidal silver correctly. This was part of the “Blue Man’s” problem. I bought mine from SilverGen (1-877-745-8374) in Washington (model SG6-auto,) but you can search the Internet for others. It makes a quart at a time. You need a quart mason jar and distilled water. I always keep at least 10-15 quarts back stocked. At the current price in the health store for colloidal silver, the machine will pay for itself in a very short period of time.

How does the silver work? Scientists tell us, after close observation of live blood, that the silver particles are attracted to ALL single celled organisms. They go right for the nucleus and attach themselves. About thirty seconds later the organism dies. It is important to note that we have good bacteria in out mouths, gut, etc. so taking colloidal everyday, all the time is probably not a good idea. I was interested to hear on BBC radio that the British government was giving free “silver water” to their citizens during the outbreak.

-2-
This next remedy might not sound very high tech or exciting, but, believe me, it is powerful. I make a broth and freeze it. You will not feel like gathering the ingredients and cooking the broth when you are sick.

In a gallon of distilled water: (use organic vegetables if possible)
1.8-10-cloves of garlic, chopped
2. 2-3 yellow onions, chopped
3. 5-7 carrots, chopped
4. 5-7 stalks of celery
5. a handful of parsley
6. 2-3 inches of ginger root, chopped
7. cayenne pepper to toleration
8. sea salt or “real” salt
9. about a teaspoon of curry, more if you want it
I bring this broth to a boil, then simmer for about forty-five minutes.
I keep some of the broth with the solids and some I strain.
When you are really feeling poorly, the strained broth will be the best.
It will hydrate you and deliver essential medicines to your body. There are many healing components in this mix, too many to list. Garlic, alone, would take up a page.
As you begin to feel better and gain an appetite, the broth with the solids will continue the healing work.

I also take extra vitamin C, Echinacea extract, and an herbal combination by Herbs, Etc. called Deep Health.
Often the respiratory system is deeply compromised. For the nose, I spray the colloidal silver. Sometimes I irrigate with a mild sea salt dilution (Neti pot, or small blue bulb.) If my throat is raw, I gargle deeply with a one-to one mixture of hydrogen peroxide and warm water. A Georgia country doctor taught me this years ago and it still stands as the best sore throat therapy. Never gargle with straight peroxide as it may burn your tissue.

If the lungs are congested, tea tree oils inhales are very helpful. I put two-three drops in a mug, pour rapidly boiling water to the top, cup my hands around, sniff, then deeply inhale until all of the steam is gone. Pour the mixture down the drain…NEVER ingest tea tree oil. This therapy comes from Chief Two Trees, a great Cherokee medicine man.
Dr. Mike Castle also recommends using peppermint oil in the same manner. It works and isn’t as hard edged as the tea tree.

-3- If your fever is too high, a warm wash cloth placed along the spine can bring it down. However, virus can be killed by heat. It is the body’s natural response to any viral invasion, so a fever can actually assist the healing process if it isn’t too high for too long. White Willow Bark is aspirin in its original, natural form. It doesn’t produce the contraindications of the pharmaceutical copy. I take it for any aches and pains that accompany the “flu.”

Remember the old advice about drinking a lot of liquids…still holds true. I use the broth as much as I can, supplementing with natural ginger ale to settle the stomach and fruit juices (organic juices are far superior to conventional.)
If what we are told is true, that this “flu” will be back in the fall, then now is the time to organize your remedies.

Please note, there are other natural remedies out there that people use and swear by. By all means, do what works for you. This protocol is what I find works best for me and I hope it has given you some direction.

Sending Blessings and Good Health to all.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:42 PM
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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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Hi, very good info, could you please provide a link for that ?



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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Kosovo, Pristina: First Suspected Case of Influenza A (H1N1) Dies in Hospital; Confirmatory Test Results from WHO Pending #swineflu2 minutes ago from web


US, Texas: State health officials confirm 61 cases of influenza A (H1N1) statewide. #swinefluless than a minute ago from web


Developments on swine flu worldwide
21 mins ago
news.yahoo.com...

_Confirmed cases: More than 1,750 worldwide in 23 countries; more than 800 in Mexico; more than 600 in U.S. Sweden reported its first case Wednesday.
More at Link...

In the crossfire of Swine Flu in Mexico
nation.ittefaq.com...

kristanichole: Interesting article re: swine flu. I learned that flu cells, not unlike my a$$, are coated in fatty material. less than 20 seconds ago from web

Swine Flu FAQ: Will getting swine flu now protect me later?
Why is winter flu season? Why do vaccines take so long?
www.slate.com...

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