Seven People in U.S. hit by Strange New Swine Flu , page 8
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reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 06:09 PM by son of PC
Originally posted by srsly_you_guys
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post by son of PC



I'm glad you've found something that helps you. I'm not knocking prayer or belief in it.

Its widely agreed, in the belief of intention, that focusing on the negative counters the positive.

And yet, every one ignores the post that brings some rationality to all this sensationalist doomageddon.

I'm trying to point out a glaring contradiction.

[edit on 24-4-2009 by srsly_you_guys]

[edit on 24-4-2009 by srsly_you_guys]


Yes, it is a contradiction. But, I did interject a positive tone by writing that I felt the FBI was still on the people's side for the most part.

The people that work for the FBI, are kinda like "just plain folks".


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 06:28 PM by drphilxr
reply to post by dingleberry77



hardly reassuring. you can be an asymptomatic carrier of the flu

for a few days until you get fever, chills, myalgias, etc.

therefore, the fact this is already "not containable" per the CDC, and

has an apparent epicenter in ONE OF THE MOST POPULATED CITIES ON THE PLANET

(Mexico City), means someone has gotten on a plane today with the virus

to Aussie-land via SD/LA etc, or Europe/US/Africa (anywhere).

The next 2 weeks will be very , very interesting. We will certainly know more

early next....good news is tamiflu works (for now) but not amantidine.

watch www.cdc.gov for breaking alerts.

(yes, i am a physician based in New England)


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 06:56 PM by fullmoonfairy
reply to post by uplander



Yep, one of my all time fav books...I read it years ago and to this day always think of it with every "disaster scenario' that gets talked about and tossed around. That book really affected me!

good call!



reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 07:21 PM by adodson
CDC Says Too Late to Contain U.S. Swine Flu Outbreak

www.foxnews.com...



Plans for Mass Graves Confirmed: Government Surveying Cemetery Readiness for Flu Outbreak.
Houston and Phoenix for sure.

www.infowars.com...




reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 07:37 PM by harddrive21
Well if they are using a vaccine, I hope it was not this year's Influenza vaccine used this prior season in the US. It was, at best, 50% effective. The Infuenza A virus that was in the vaccine was majorly ineffective due to mutation/bad guessing (for a US Flu Vaccine that will be used in November 2009 is being developed now).
This Influenza H1N1 has a unique mix of Avian, Swine and Human fragments that vary from location (Europe, America... check this link -
www.alertnet.org...).
Here is a great quote from the article "The virus is an influenza A virus, carrying the designation H1N1. It contains DNA from avian, swine and human viruses, including elements from European and Asian swine viruses, the CDC has said."
They also claim antivirals work...Tamiflu is effective, but should be 2nd line - Rimantadine is cheaper and hopefully just as effective...that data will not be available for a while...still too soon.
Panic...or just a slow news Friday....?
I think Panic....


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 07:42 PM by DaddyBare
reply to post by harddrive21
On that same news report I talked about they admited there is no vaccine and even if they put everyone on making one right now it will take 8 months to get the first batch out


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 07:49 PM by harddrive21
reply to post by DaddyBare



Sorry about the double link post my friend...There are numerous, numerous articles being posted online...alot of them I really don't trust (Reuters is solid for me personally)...I wonder how much/many of the reports are completely bogus.
Time for me to sit back with my scotch (J. Walker) and club soda, a decent Dominican Cigar (Cinco Vegas) and watch this unfold this weekend.



reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 07:58 PM by harddrive21
reply to post by gourlay



Dude, Just read that of Drudge...I grew up on Long Island (Nassau County) a few miles from the Queen/Nassau border. I wonder which of the many High Schools this one is. This is my freak out limit...can't wait to stay in NYC for 5 days next week and go to the new Yankee Stadium...Time to get some N95 masks.


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 08:28 PM by adodson
I have been watching for this outbreak for at least a year. Here is a quote from 2006:
A top scientist gave a speech to the Texas Academy of Science last month in which he advocated the need to exterminate 90% of the population through the airborne ebola virus. Dr. Eric R. Pianka's chilling comments, and their enthusiastic reception again underscore the elite's agenda to enact horrifying measures of population control.

Standing in front of a slide of human skulls, Pianka gleefully advocated airborne ebola as his preferred method of exterminating the necessary 90% of humans, choosing it over AIDS because of its faster kill period. Ebola victims suffer the most tortuous deaths imaginable as the virus kills by liquefying the internal organs. The body literally dissolves as the victim writhes in pain bleeding from every orifice.

As we have documented, members of the elite are quite open in their feverish lust to commit mass murder and ethnic cleansing. In the foreword to his biography If I Were An Animal, Prince Philip wrote, "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

National Security Memo 200, dated April 24, 1974, and titled "Implications of world wide population growth for U.S. security & overseas interests," says:

"Dr. Henry Kissinger proposed in his memorandum to the NSC that "depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World." He quoted reasons of national security, and because `(t)he U.S. economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less-developed countries ... Wherever a lessening of population can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resources, supplies and to the economic interests of U.S."

There is also info from 2007 and Henry Kissinger:

Calls to begin sterilizing the human population have previously been put forward by former secretary of State and high ranking Bilderberger Henry Kissinger in a declassified document of the National Security Council (1974) entitled "The Implications of World-wide Population Growth on the Security and External Interests of the United States".

Such calls to depopulate are echoed within the western scientific community by prominent figures such as Dr. Eric R. Pianka, who travels around the US speaking of the need to exterminate 90% of the population in order to save the planet. He suggests using the airborne ebola virus to do the job, choosing it over AIDS because of its faster kill period. Ebola victims suffer the most tortuous deaths imaginable as the virus kills by liquefying the internal organs. The body literally dissolves as the victim writhes in pain bleeding from every orifice.

Kissinger also promised Russian in a meeting with new russian president that the Obama administration would disarm the american people by september. China was also involved in the meeting. It was about Russia and China absorbing more U.S. Debt. They refused until they were promised that america would disarm its population!!

All of this is a plot by the NWO to create a one world gov't. Only the United states is standing in their way.

Protect yourselves! Do not Surrender!! Keep you Guns, Life, Liberty, and Religion.


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 09:36 PM by ozzieman
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
7 people got sick with the flu? This isnt NEWS. 20horses died the other day from something unknown, that barely made a headline.

So I have to ask ,why is 7 people sick, but recovered making headlines in the US and in Australia?

www.news.com.au...

SEVEN people have been diagnosed with a strange and unusual new kind of swine flu in California and Texas, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported.

All seven people have recovered but the virus itself is a never-before-seen mixture of viruses typical among pigs, birds and humans, the CDC said.


This is on the front page of www.news.com.au

I cant believe its on Australian front page news.

Why are they pre-empting things like this:

"We don't think this is time for major concern around the country."

However, some experts fear this strain, or another strain, could spark a pandemic that could kill millions.



"We believe at this point that human-to-human spread is occurring," Dr Schuchat said.

"That's unusual. We don't know yet how widely it is spreading.

"We are also working with international partners to understand what is occurring in other parts of the world."


Other parts of the world?

7 people had the flu, and got better... why are we saying this is a worldy event?

something stinks..


This is not a case in which something stinks, it is just the nature evolution of a virus. It is also nothing to be scared of, if you are prepared. I know in South Australia our health department is very well advanced in planning for an occurrence of a pandemic. I know as i am one of the infrastructure engineer with the department and we do annual exercises to practice keeping things going if our team is isolated in different places, such as homes and individual data centres etc.

At my house I have three large storage containers with canned and dehydrated provisions, batteries, torches and a battery operated radio. I have enough to last for several weeks, the only thing we lack is water, so will be relying on the mains supply. We also have face masks just in case we need to go into public. If a pandemic hits my family will be staying at home, we will not have physical contact with the outside world. Hopefully we never have to activate our family plan but being prepared never hurts.

From the workshops I have done I would recommended having a mobile phone handy. The first services to be cut to the ordinary joe citizen will be publicly switched phone network (PSPN) (to reserve communications to essential services), but it has to be noted that the first services to be turned off will be the mobile network as telcos have a higher level SLA around PSPN.

Any pandemic will come in waves, with each wave lasting about 4- 6 weeks and waves spread over a series of months. So remember to restock. If a pandemic does hit personal hygie is important, as the articles already posted states don't shake hands, kiss anyone who has no contact with your isolation group, wash hands all the comment sense stuff. Viruses can last hours (about 12) on surfaces after someone sneezes, but only a few hours on someone hands.

Play it safe, get prepared and everyone will be ok. If all of the community is prepared any pandemic will be short lived.
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