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Originally posted by they see ALL
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I told him the truth, work, wife, kids, too many responsibilities not enough time...I thought about it a moment and couldn't help but see the irony in it as I finally told him..."come to think of it, going to prison has been the most fun I have had in ages!"
Exactly. I have a question, though. All these cool things were on a navy base or was it actually part of the prison? If the latter is true, you have greatly proved my point! Actually both would prove my point, as you bring allowed on base was a part of the prison experience. Were you in the navy?
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
When I lived on Vandberg AFB for a short time, they had prisoners from Lompoc who worked on the base doing landscaping.
I dont know the details of it - like why they were there, etc. But certainly not a bad gig. Sunny perfect weather. Working near the beach.
Originally posted by logician magician
Have you ever been to prison?
Or did you just see one on TV?
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Believe it or not on my last day at work the MWR and NAVY and Marines I worked with held a Pizza party for me, had a going away cake made, all signed a card and chipped in for a going away present!
Originally posted by ThirdJohnAdams
I await your argument.
Originally posted by Plasma applicator
What’s this “we” BS?
Is post is just an attempt at baiting?
You do realize your TV show is heavily edited and only approved footage can leave the facility. Access to areas of the facilities is also limited.
It depends on where you are, what kind of privileges are available. Most places weights are gone. Most places do not allow TVs in cells. Books consist of approved magazines
You want to make some BS claim that they are watching TV in their cells.
Yes they can buy food at the commissary. When the warden under feeds them and has pocketed the money that was allocated for food. The inmates can use money from their canteen to by food at the commissary. With the proceeds going to the pocket of the warden.
Did your TV show you how most drugs get into prison? Or did it just show you one
Visitor trying to smuggle it in? No? It didn’t show you the whole black market system? I wonder WHY
Rapes occur because the guards are indifferent. When they’re not doing the raping.
Or staging fights.
Most prisons are an overcrowded powder keg ready to explode. With guards under staffed and severely out numbered. But you want to run a riot, putting guards lives in danger so YOU can feel better about a TV.
So take a previously non-violent offender. Starve them, beat Them, Stab them, gang rape them,If they weren’t a psychopath they certainly are now. that’s who your loved one is going to bump into one fateful day. THINK ABOUT THAT.
Originally posted by ThirdJohnAdams
This guy really peeved me tonight and you did a good job ripping apart his logic with true logic.
Originally posted by slimpickens93
I go to prison everyday. OP is right. It's like a bunch of 5th graders going to high school.
90% of the time inmates are laughing and joking around.
The majority don't really have to spend all that much time in their cells either.
It's a relativly easy life, as long as you're not getting raped.
Originally posted by Plasma applicator
Most prisons are an overcrowded powder keg ready to explode. With guards under staffed and severely out numbered. But you want to run a riot, putting guards lives in danger so YOU can feel better about a TV.
Originally posted by miragezero
I don't think prisoners should be given those luxuries but I do think you should be able to work for them. Afterall, these people are going to be released at some point and it would be better for them not to have been some sensory deprived madman.
Originally posted by resistor
That's the real bottom line here. Prisoners are given certain niceties so that they can be taken away for bad behavior. It's the only form of control there is for long term prisoners. Without this reward type system, all long term prisoners would have to be in a super-max type situation, which causes mental illness.
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
I don't know. All the luxuries in a prison could never equal the freedom to walk the Earth.
I don't think they should be treated brutally. It would make them crazier.
Originally posted by they see ALL
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
I don't know. All the luxuries in a prison could never equal the freedom to walk the Earth.
Sure that is definitely true, but when one goes to prison for murder, for example, he or she should not have fun things for a while.
I don't think they should be treated brutally. It would make them crazier.
I'm not either. I've never said anything like this.
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
I don't know. All the luxuries in a prison could never equal the freedom to walk the Earth.
I don't think they should be treated brutally. It would make them crazier.
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Ah okay. I see your point. Yeah if you commit murder, you should spend some years without much at all.
Originally posted by slimpickens93
I didn't see where anyone said they should be treated brutally.
Originally posted by Neurockones
County Jail in Alameda County, CA. (Oakland) was far more hectic than Prison. I'd spend three months in Prison sooner than go back to county for the same amount of time. And that is a general consensus amongst all inmates, that I've ever personally talked to.
And to the originator of this thread, I'd like to kindly extend a middle finger right atcha.
I have witnessed a lot of screwed up things while incarcerated and I am aware that my actions put me in that position... however, the only thing I learned from my time behind bars was true cynicism and how to be a smarter 'criminal'. The old saying holds true.
Originally posted by Ben Niceknowinya
I have to say, compared to Turkey or Lebanon inmates probably have much nicer living acomomdation here in the US.
The fact that they are fed, daily, fairly well.....have access to weights, books, etc. might influence my agreement that inmates do have it pretty easy..true. I think the biggest problem might be your safety.
Interesting tpoic.
what strikes me is the fact that alot of inmates might even have a better life inside the sytem, prison, because it suits them better than the "outside" world. Scary.