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Thank you for everyone for your kind and most wise words.

I have to say I do lead a very busy life. I don't often find myself bored and I have a great network of friends, some whom I have told over the years and some I have not. Crazy thing is the one's I have spoken to about it do not believe me! Which in my minds eye is a good thing as I would'nt really want them to believe me, but at the same time it's nice to have someone to talk too. They humour me, but that's fine. I don't care I know the truth and if anything it has enpowered me and given me more confidence in my personal affairs and my working life.
I have some days when i'd rather stay in bed and I do, but short of that things are'nt that bad considering these aliens are in the shadows of our own life's. Blink and you might miss them, but trust me, they are there.

Thank you

Originally posted by happinness
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I don't often find myself bored and I have a great network of friends, some whom I have told over the years and some I have not. Crazy thing is the one's I have spoken to about it do not believe me!
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it's nice to have someone to talk too.
They humor me, but that's fine.
I don't care I know the truth and if anything it has empowered me and given me more confidence in my personal affairs and my working life..."

Thank you

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Thank You Happinness !

I created the Abductee Chat Forum to share just what you encapsulated in the above comments.

We are not alone with these experiences or the distancing of friends and family.

The general public is ok with these experiences as long as they continue to remain a esoteric subject.
Only seriously spoken about in public conditioning films by characters on the silver screen.
They gladly pay for a ticket to pay for that conditioning.
Just so it is not too real.

Here we have each other. Speak your mind.
I am personally encouraged by your comment that your experiences have lead to confidence.

We are all on a path that can lead us from isolation to the empowerment you speak of.
Not all of us make it threw the bunny hole although.
I have lost a few along the way.
When I came threw there were few tools to deal with the stress.
Lets give them a few positive reinforcements.
Sometimes just time gives us perspective.

I gland to see your positive outlook.
I hope your comments encourage others going threw dark times coming to grips with the reality we must come to grips with.

Know that you've made a difference.



Watcher

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Hello Watcher,
Thank you for your encouraging reply. It was nice that you had found the time to reply. I have been on ATS for a few years now, looking for answers and generally trying to fit in and make sense of it all. I have come across very nasty people on other sites (trolls) who have twisted things around that I have said and generally trying to make out that i am lying and trying to scare people. This couldn't be further from the truth! If anything I was the one who was scared, because I didn't understand what was happening to me. Then when I first met one in real life, in real time, not in a dream....everything changed! This is where my nerves kick in, because I don't know how far to go. I mean this is a public website and as much as I want to go into details, I cannot without going to much into my personal details. I also have issues over who to trust. At one point I was fantasising about going to MI5. Just marching in there and blurting it out, hoping they would at least reassure me and at least wrap me up in cotton wool, until I had calmed down! Then I thought better of it, remembering the story of the Russian girl accused of being a spy a while back, who in interview said that the so called MI5 agents voices got deeper as they spoke and this was so reminicent of mine and I thought better of it.
It can be a very lonely existance and sadly I have had to distance myself from certain people in my life and act a bit aloof, becasue I so want to tell them and I can't! As I have said I have told some, but it was a waste of time and as nice as they are they think it's all in my mind. So be it! think what they want, I don't give a poo!
I have put bits on ATS, mainly about the sleep paralysis, but I haven't really gone into any detail about the aliens. This news is not even a year old yet and I am still in shock and trying to carry on as normal. My GP gave me some sedatives just before xmas and I have seven left out of 33, so that's not bad going is it? Thing is, I can't tell if they work or not. Honestly, you cannot imagine how I feel about this. I only wish I could get some sort of councelling. Someone who understands, we are definately not alone! One last thing. I love documentaries, but I can't take some of them seriously anymore. Take care x

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These guys come into your home,they come in physically because they can be levitated down from the craft or because of some other physical ability,I believe it is because they need to physically carry us out of our homes.

I saw the same guys in my home,and absolutely yes they wear little monk robes and they have wrinkly skin,deep wrinkles,not really ugly just deeply wrinkled like they are very old or something.

You are not alone and they were real.And funny but they seem to come in threes.

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I have been Taken!! I know the Aliens have infiltrated the Human Race..but maybe its not such a bad thing. No-one would believe me either. I talk about the issue on this site..but I Do Not in PUBLIC!! Why- I have been Beat up by Local Cops and Tortured in Hospitals.

Im here- What is happening to you?? I am not a Troll.

NC

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When I was returned home from the craft they were not present and were not needed as I remember how I was sent home .And what was done to replace them in the process.

wquote]Originally posted by happinness
I have come across very nasty people on other sites (trolls) who have twisted things around that I have said and generally trying to make out that i am lying and trying to scare people. This couldn't be further from the truth! If anything I was the one who was scared, because I didn't understand what was happening to me.

Our coming to grips with the experience is what this Chat is all about. It dose get better with time.
Talk about what you are comfortable talking about. Get help if you need it. Don't feel that you suffer alone.

I suggest that you read some of the previous posts here.

It is not up to us to wake others to this knowledge like a bully. Keep this in mind
We actually had the experience. And think of the hard time we have a hard time dealing with it.
If they are truly open and looking for answers be careful with them.


wquote]Originally posted by happinness
It can be a very lonely existance and sadly I have had to distance myself from certain people in my life and act a bit aloof, becasue I so want to tell them and I can't! As I have said I have told some, but it was a waste of time and as nice as they are they think it's all in my mind. So be it! think what they want, I don't give a poo!

Ya isolation can give you time to sort things out yourself. Don't confuse this with depression although.
You can always zap Watcher a note here. If it is depression there are sources that can help you. Without knowing how this is effecting you although I would see if things are getting better or worse. Then make your decisions with that in mind.


wquote]Originally posted by happinness
I only wish I could get some sort of counseling. Someone who understands, we are definately not alone! One last thing. I love documentaries, but I can't take some of them seriously anymore. Take care x

Counceling....

Bud Hopkins group, Mufon Ect. But be careful.
They all are humans with there own agendas.
If it helps you get threw the day although who cares.
If you are in your teens your parents are your allies no matter how you look at it now.

Ya after seeing the big picture how can we take anything seriously.
I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop myself.
I think that the next few decades should be interesting.
Looking forward to your posts.

---Watcher

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"I am one that DOESNT remember, but I do know there is something profound. I dont even feel like I belong here, on this earth!
I feel like a stranger on this planet. I have NEVER fit in..my entire life and I know I never will. I feel like I am a lost soul..constantly searching.
If i only had answers..even if they were NOT what I wanted..at least I would know." reply to post by Yummy Freelunch



I can agree with this 110%!!

Originally posted by n120by60w
The Dr after removing it looked at it on from both sides by turning his wrist.
Then said Interresting
He then dropped it to the table that he was picking up his tools from.
I never saw it again.

I had a similar experience once. Doctor said "just an oddity" and moved on. I bet you wish you could go back and ask more questions.

Originally posted by wigit

Originally posted by n120by60w
The Dr after removing it looked at it on from both sides by turning his wrist.
Then said Interresting
He then dropped it to the table that he was picking up his tools from.
I never saw it again.

I had a similar experience once. Doctor said "just an oddity" and moved on. I bet you wish you could go back and ask more questions.

I would want to go back, and insist on keeping it.

Saying something to the effect of "excuse me, it might be an oddity , but it came out of my body, so its mine..hand it over"

They would most likely find a way to keep it, and as far as answering any questions, I doubt they'd give you a straight answer..though some doctors might.

Originally posted by defiler
By the way what is the meaning of the 1 and 0 are they binary message?

[edit on 23-4-2009 by defiler]

Its "evidence" that he/she has been abducted and have been given some secret message (random sequence of 1's and 0's), which some think is sufficient enough to believe "abduction" stories.

Interesting thread, thanks for starting it. Have only read page one, so will comment more later. Take care and I commend all of you for coming forward on this challenging issue.

Nice thread. I only read a just a handful of responses but I believe that is all that is needed for me to share a quick story.

About 2 weeks ago I was an emotional roller coaster. In one of my highs/lows and frustrations I declared for someone to take me and prove it to me that what I have experienced throughout my whole life was in fact real and not my imagination. After putting this energy out in the universe i received and immediate answer that they would be here when I started working my new job. A week or so passed and I hadn't started working so I just put it behind me. I talked to a friend and hes said "were gonna need you for work tomorrow so be ready." So going to sleep that night,last Thursday the 28th I thought something was going to happen. Well the next day came and nothing and I went to work and just about fell out in the 105*F temps we were slammed with.

I came home home physically wore out. Proceeded through my evening as usual, and laid down to catch a good nights sleep. As I'm laying in bed I notice I can see the moon peering through the one broken spot in my window blinds. I moved in a way to were the light wouldn't bother me and drifted off. The next morning I woke up with out my alarm as usual and proceeded through my morning motions.l After about 10 minutes I realized my time was off. My atomic clock was showing 20 minutes faster than my playstation 3, laptop, and cellphone. I held the clock in my hand in shock. I searched my feelings and tried to see if I could remember, but all I got was neutral feeling, and no dreams of any kind except for the feeling of sleeping very well. I kept this in the back of my mind for the next two days, and when i woke up and went work on Sunday July 1st, all my clocks were back in sync once again.

That's all for me I no longer question them in that manner anymore. I am now trying to take advantage of the situation by exploiting the residual "esp" that's left after these experience. Nightly before I fall asleep I'm focusing on trying to activate my "junk DNA," and honestly I feel like it could happen at anytime, Also just so you no one has to ask they do not show them selves to me, and I believe the group that is in contact with me lately for the past couples years likes me to refer to them as a "renegade greys."In a different dream on a previous night they came and asked for my assistance, but that's a story for a different time.

Originally posted by Podius1
"I am one that DOESNT remember, but I do know there is something profound. I dont even feel like I belong here, on this earth!
I feel like a stranger on this planet. I have NEVER fit in..my entire life and I know I never will. I feel like I am a lost soul..constantly searching.
If i only had answers..even if they were NOT what I wanted..at least I would know." reply to post by Yummy Freelunch

 

I can agree with this 110%!!

For those of you that are new to our Abductee Chat Forum.
I would like to thank Yummy Freelunch for posts that have proved to be significant over time.

Yummy's posts & threads have allowed others along with myself to bring their thoughts into focus threw well thought out comments and posted at the right time. I encourage you to follow her posts.

I was struggling with one of my experiences and was dealing with the medical problems from an abduction.

Yummy relayed experiences that got me looking in a direction the proved very helpful.

---Watcher

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Originally posted by WhisperingWinds

Originally posted by wigit

Originally posted by n120by60w
The Dr after removing it looked at it on from both sides by turning his wrist.
Then said Interresting
He then dropped it to the table that he was picking up his tools from.
I never saw it again.

I had a similar experience once. Doctor said "just an oddity" and moved on. I bet you wish you could go back and ask more questions.

I would want to go back, and insist on keeping it.

Saying something to the effect of "excuse me, it might be an oddity , but it came out of my body, so its mine..hand it over"

They would most likely find a way to keep it, and as far as answering any questions, I doubt they'd give you a straight answer..though some doctors might.

I had a little knowledge of the abduction experience at the time I had the implant from my nose removed.
Thinking back at how i would deal with it know might prove helpful to others. So here go's.

I was rather noisy while looking for answers
I would suggest stelf with prospective.

I had Spoken to Stanton Freeman and our local State Mufon director.
I found that if significant events occurred and trace evidence was left that a clean up crew would roll in. It would be replaced or removed from my grasp.

I used simple diversion in one instance to retain the item.
I showed and inferred that something outer than what I was trying to protect was the important to me.
So if you stumble into physical evidence realize that we are dealing with something that is important.

I have been allowed to grasp a few things that I cant quite believe myself.

I want us to remember that sometimes this stuff might be hazardous.
Unless yours a materials specialist we my not have the proper background to deal with effects of these objects.

I was told of one that was like a metal fiber that was recovered from an abduction site by Mufon In Michigan's UP. It smelled up the entire house and took a long time to find. Yet was physically a small thread less than 3 inch's long.

I would be careful with objects if you can retain them somehow. I have kept a few myself.

I had an experience that I have recounted previously here.

It provided me White Leaves on one of the trees in my yard after an abduction. I was looking for a physical evidence. It was given in to me but I was not allowed to retain it myself due to circumstances out of my control. I found the leaves beautiful and oddly calming, I had something that I could hold in my hand not just a memory that could be flawed or messed with.

A crew showed up on a Sunday and removed the trace evidence driving City trucks. I spoke to the man in charge of the City Trucks later that week. He informed me that they don't work Sundays.

I have found that the white leaves maybe a common occurrence after a abduction. So watch for them up to a week afterwards. I am speaking from experience, I have had more than one of these occurrences in different locations.

I think that it is a side effect caused by the craft stopping or hovering. It killed the very top of a nearby tree and turned leaves bright white on a tree in by yard. The tree's effected were 3' to 30' tall. I never saw it happen to larger tree's. I believe this is some kind of harmonic resonance effect due to their size.

--- Watcher

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Lots of wisdom in that post, and great advice.

You sir, are an asset to those who may have had similar experiences, and did not know hot to deal with them.

Or, you are a class A bs'er, for whatever reasons.

I'm going with the first analogy .

Do any of the rest of you have trouble with electronics or anything, like wristwatches, that use crystals? I had a Seiko with a perpetual calendar that was forever in for repairs because the battery would drain within days of replacement and the calendar would randomly just change dates. I mean even within hours of the date changing. I could go to sleep on the 5th and wake up on the 28th. By noon it was the 18th and the next day/week/minute it would be the 1st.

The watch sat, after its final repair (which again came with the report that there is nothing in the world wrong with that watch), in a drawer for some years. Now my daughter wears it and it works fine.

Mobile phones malfunction regularly in my hands. My computer at work would break in some major hardware way three times per year, plus it would lose trust for the network and refuse to be contacted for days on end. I could not affect the computer deliberately in this way. I worked in an extremely high security area and any tampering with any machinery would bring immediate attention, and not in a good way.

I know I have something in my leg still, probably from an abduction as a child. We have strange connections to such things in my family.

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Same problem with cell phones and computer. They did something to my right ear and left eye. I also know of the vibration issue you have spoken about in other post. This happened in my stomach area- one time driving down the road, I also know about the being taken driving down the road you have spoken of. I have went over every theory to explain things that have happen to me. Its going on 5 years and 10 months and I have basically just dont care anymore. I guess all of us whom have been taken are Alien Pets now..so what can we do..nothing. Thank God these beings have not bothered me in several months. This Telepathic Issue connected to other humans is what bothers me. I have no privacy. I have been doing re-search on HAARP and Silent Sound..attempting to learn how this works and if there is a connection. This is considered a Non-Lethal Weapon and was used in IRAQ. Would our own Government use something like this on us?? Im still looking into this area.

I read youre other post last night in some thread..where this guy was saying we abductees were lying and making things up. I just ignored the idiot and didnt bite the bate. Alien Abduction does exist..just take a look at how many missing persons we have in the US. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children is a great website to check out.

The fact is..the general public does not want to talk about this issue. The Alien issues runs so deep in Government..who knows.

I have learned to hard lesson of not talking about this issue in public! My career with Homeland Security was destroyed by local idiots. I have been beaten up by local police and thrown in hospitals and tortured! Will I ever forgive them?? No- the actions of the local people took me off of my true lifepath. I work everyday, sleep, and get to communicate on the internet. My current job is a dead end, but it pays some of the bills. This Telepathic Issue has affected my writing, and math skills. I want to move forward in life and excel! I cant pass test anymore..I went from a 3.89 in college to just dropping out. I am not the same person I was before I left for my duty station in Montana.

I wish you happiness! I believe you have gone through what I have. All we can do is pray the beings do not come for us again. No-one can help us, but each other. NC

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Telepathic Link off the chain in NC! These fools down here have made up so many games I cant even keep up. Players on link- Trouble makers seem to be Local on link..out of State connection exist but are quite. How is this being done? Either Alien war tactic or Government induced by HAARP- Silent Sound Spread Spectrum or Artificial Telepathy. My therory- This State was active when I returned from attempting to make it to my duty station. Humans on link connected with me and turned focus on me.

This is like listening to humans talk 24 hours a day- except when I am sleeping. Sort-of like listening to a radio that you cannot turn off. I have no privacy..I have made it clear..I do not want the connection..it feels like my brain has been hy-jacked. I am ok..I mean its been like almost 6 years since this began. I have learned how to adapt and still maintain a normal life.

You cannot run away from these idiots..I have attempted to leave and went to SC, GA and could still hear all of them. There seem to be around 10 that attempt to cause trouble all the time. My guess at how many others may be connected to link..that stay quiet..in the thousands. The humans on the link, know how to remain quiet so they do not disturb me..but the main players act out all the time. These crazy fools have made up all kind of games..this ability was never suppose to be used as a Game. This is a new form of Terrorism..funny thing to me is others will not talk about this issue..they go around Bowing their heads as they walk past me..attempting to give me some kind of hint they are on link..this is not solving the issue at hand. The is one of the most amazing abilities this Earth has ever seen if used correctly. As usual- humans have mis=used power..Can I prove any of this? No..but if you ever come to NC and start picking up other humans talking in youre head..let me know.

I cuss allot on link and call out Montana, Montana, Montana..anyway..Holding my own here in NC Hell


Let me give an example of how this works- Lets say- Im hungry..I think of what I want to eat..I want a hamburger say from Wendys. This information goes straight to the other humans on link..say someone at Wendys is on link..they could put something in my food..what I am attempting to get at is everything I think of goes straight to other humans..this kind of tactic has been used..I have been drugged 4 times in the past 5 years and 8 months..it got to the point..I didnt know who was doing this to me..I finally sent my blood work off to the FBI in DC..telling them I had been drugged down here in NC and I do not do any type of drugs. Something was found in my system called a roffie-date drug...So basically I have to avoid being drugged or poisoned on a daily basis..I cook my own food and never leave a drink sitting around un-attended.

Another example- I may be driving down the road and looking at street signs..this goes back to the humans on link..they know exactly where I am..I learned to fool them on this by just not looking at street signs..if I am attempting to hide my location.

Anyway, I have been beat up by local cops, tortured in hospitals where they attempted to destroy me..and basically this entire State is just screwed up.

I am ok and holding my own..I will be going on vacation soon and plan on interviewing a guy from Southport, NC whom is also having problems with the Alien Connected Issue..I found him on a MUFON report.

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siezures? doctors had no idea why? please please go into detail about that. i posted in another forum that i have some stuff goin on with me, i joined ats to get some perspective. but yeah siezures, and ive always had a blood curdling fear of anything seeming alien. theres certain scenarios, abstract sequences im just scared of. like an old memory or something. they give me goosebumps and i get all freaked out. im not scared easily. im hoping to find something on here that can put into words how ive been feeling. i dont think ive been abducted or anything. but an unprovoked tonic-clonic siezure with no explanation, no epilepsy is just unsettling. i also feel one come on every few weeks but fight it off. its like a nauseating sick gut twisting feeling, very unique to anything ive experienced that led into my siezure. and i keep getting it. maybe ill find some sort of explanation on ats. the doctors dont have one, and thats just one thing goin on with me. just all kinds of wierd feelings and things goin on at the same time. i have no diagnosis, no one thing causing this stuff. i just wonder if i have any similarities in symptoms or things to an abduction experience. might not