Who runs America?

Let me start here.
On February 8th, 2009 National Security Advisor (and Trilateral Commission member James Jones spoke at the 45th Munich Conference.

In his speech, Jones states the following:

As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger,

What does this statement say to America and the world?

In this article, highlighting Jones remarks in Munich, NSC advisor Jones: “I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger”

a caller to Alex Jones Show mentioned the speech. The article goes on to say some rather frightening things.

Mr. Jones is basically telling us the National Security Council is run by Henry Kissinger. The NSC is the principal forum used by Obama for considering national security and foreign policy matters. Biden, Clinton, Geithner, Gates, Mullen, Emanuel, Summers, and others are listed as participants, but not Henry Kissinger.

In 2006, the Associated Press reported that Kissinger advised Bush and Cheney, a fact included in Bob Woodward’s book “State of Denial.”

In other words, the Bush and Obama administrations — never mind the “change” rhetoric — receive the same advice (instructions) from the ruling elite.

Earlier this year, Kissinger went on the floor of the stock market to declare Obama had a chance to create a New World Order.

Said Kissinger:

He can give a new impetus to American Foreign policy, partly because the perception of him is so extraordinary around the world. I think his task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period when really a New World Order can be created — it’s a great opportunity, it isn’t just a crisis.

Kissinger — along with David Rockefeller, Paul Arthur Allaire, and Richard Holbrooke — directs the American Friends of Bilderberg. He is also connected to the globalist Aspen Institute, the Committee of 300, the Trilateral Commission, and sits on the advisory board of JP Morgan Chase.

“Kissinger has been patiently waiting since at least 1973 for his New World Order egg to hatch,” notes the August Review.

Kissinger earlier praised Obama’s picks for economic recovery, and why not?

Obama picked Trilateral Commission wonder boy Timothy Geithner to be Secretary of the Treasury. The rest of the team are protégés of Robert Rubin, also a Trilateral and former Treasury Secretary under Clinton.

Obama’s top foreign policy advisor has been Zbigniew Brzezinski, the co-founder of the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller.

Finally, before Obama was elected, Kissinger went on the Charlie Rose Show and talked about the New World Order:

The Charlie Rose Show interview video link and other research related links follow this article.

The September 29, 2006 Washington Post article Woodward: Kissinger Advising Bush
Begins as follows:

Henry Kissinger has been advising President Bush and Vice President Cheney about Iraq, telling them that "victory is the only meaningful exit strategy," author and journalist Bob Woodward said.

The Washington Post editor's third book on the Bush administration, "State of Denial," comes out next week.
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"The truth is that the assessment by intelligence experts is that next year, 2007, is going to get worse and, in public, you have the president and you have the Pentagon saying, 'Oh, no, things are going to get better.'"

He said Kissinger, who served in the Nixon and Ford administrations, has been telling Bush and Cheney that "in Iraq, he declared very simply, 'Victory is the only meaningful exit strategy.'"

"This is so fascinating. Kissinger's fighting the Vietnam War again because, in his view, the problem in Vietnam was we lost our will."

There are many angles and twists regarding the NWO plan. Now we see Kissinger had advised our Presidential Administrations going back to the Nixon era, if not earlier. But there are concerns right here in our communities.

Two items that don't get highlighted much are:
1)
MNN: Elitist Thugs Keep Trying to Kill off Indigenous & People of Color

This article warms of ongoing attempts of Dr. Kissinger and elitists around the globe to fulfill this NWO master plan.

Mar. 27, 2009. We are told the world is overpopulated and that it must be depopulated! We are finding out it is part of the old eugenics plan to create a “super race” and get rid of those who they deem to be “useless eaters”. It’s a code for systematic killing of us and people of color, in violation of international law and norms. The serial killers making these blatant plans to carry out “mass executions” must be stopped. The economic melt down is being used as their incentive to proceed. Outright killing and bio-terrorism strategies are being perfected and practiced on us. It’s a pet project of the elite. It’s common knowledge that Prince Phillip said that after he dies, he wants to come back as a deadly virus to reduce the earth’s population by 90%.

Henry Kissinger set up the old ideas that President Obama is following. [Hey, isn’t he a person of color?] Kissinger was National Security Advisor NSA and Secretary of State for Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford in the 1970's.
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Like King George VI and early elitist Thomas Malthus, Kissinger says that humans will eat and reproduce until there is standing room only on the planet. He thinks he should rebalance the natural world to his way. In his memoirs, "The Final Days", control over life and death is a sexual high as "Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac". We think that the megalomaniacs should not reproduce.

Kissinger helped write the classified memo dated December 10, 1974 for the U.S. National Security Council called “The National Security Study Memorandum 200, Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests (NSSM200)”. President Gerald Ford adopted it as official U.S. policy in November 1975. Getting control of the world's food was one way to gain control of the people. To get food and medicines, developing countries had to agree to tough birth control programs and to drastically reduce their population. People resisted, of course. Kissinger and his cohorts decided to resort to wars.

2)
Since the high oil prices, leases of 73 million acres to drill off the Alaskan Coast have been proposed.
This article; Help STOP Arctic Ocean Multi-Sale (on left side bar at link),

Please take action to spur Obama’s officials to change course in Arctic Ocean away from massive Bush administration leasing and drilling plans.
The Interior Department proposes to offer 73 million acres off Alaska for oil and gas development that will endanger Native communities, harm wildlife, and add to global warming.
The Arctic Ocean Multi-sale draft EIS proposes to lease the entire 73 million acres, ...offshore oil and gas development destroy destroy communities, disrupt their traditional indigenous cultures, soil beaches, and kill countless numbers of birds, marine mammals, fish, and other wildlife. With broken sea ice prevalent and waters that are treacherous for oil rigs, pipelines and tankers, the threat of oil spills.

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[edit on 23-4-2009 by imd12c4funn]

Very well put together thread, disturbingly so, as this really is happening, and anyone who denies it will have quite a wake up call, these power hungry meglomaniacs make me sick to my stomach.

Apparently you missed my thread on the "Rothschilds"? International bankers run america, and the world for that matter. The Rothschilds operate in all but 5 countries globally. The bilderbergs, tri-lats, and cfr are just front-men of the elite. The Rothschilds own and control the Federal Reserve, World Bank, World Conservation Bank of Third World Nations. It's all historical facts anybody can look up.

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James' quote looks more damning on paper than it sounds. Here's the Audio:

munich conference

As usual, make up your own mind.

A group of losers disguised as winners. They steal the show and make it there own dribble out of visceral against your happy little lives. They dance around decadently while people just call for them to ..please ..stop that rucus..

yet they dont care, they enjoy watching you squirm because they..whoever they are, are messing with your heads and seemingly..readying us all for slaughter..or rather internment..then subsequent slaughter. Those who kill, those who drop destruction..are cursed for eternity. No absolute God needs to be thanked in any such way. The real warrior, like me for instance..doesnt use anything but a true heart..and BAM from the spice weasel your cured of your dimented psychological misguidances..

easy huh..go play some golf or something and leave me alone..peace yo.

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Henry Kissinger is definitely one of the "elite". He gave Obama his first job and look where he is today. Henry Kissinger has been a player for many many years and is an untouchable. He will be some where near the helm when all the smoke clears...sabre11004...

Definately not Henry Kissinger.
Kissinger is simply a far left diversion from the truth.
Try George Soros...

[edit on 24-4-2009 by Seekerof]

I know who controls America and it ain't no Rothschilds. They are little more than Buttlers in the heirarchy. You guys are playing smallball by focusing on those guys; the true Ruler is in the Astral plane.

Originally posted by thewind
Apparently you missed my thread on the "Rothschilds"? International bankers run america, and the world for that matter. The Rothschilds operate in all but 5 countries globally. The bilderbergs, tri-lats, and cfr are just front-men of the elite. The Rothschilds own and control the Federal Reserve, World Bank, World Conservation Bank of Third World Nations. It's all historical facts anybody can look up.

yes mate i was just going to say the same thing!

the 5 nations on the world left without a Rothschild controlled central bank: Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya

i think they key words being Iran,North Korea And Cuba...

those have been in the news consistently as of late, now with North Korea being a "Nuclear power" and it just being moments from the Us and Israel attacking Iran, it's not just a coincidence, it will be a short matter of time before they install there Central bank in Iran and North Korea,

and now obama is making friends with Cuba? another coincidence...

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The astral plane paradigm runs parallel with quantum physics. if one is going to think along the lines of a mental statedness of between what is dreamweaving and reality, then we cannot ignore biblical scripture that describes in detail of what's happening in the world right now, for this information was written over 2000 years ago. While quantum physics places us in a "3-dimensional" world, if this is true, then only "1" brain can think at a time, and yet control 3 different "physical" bodies in their respective parallel universes then. According to Hawking;s Paradox anyways! Then there's the "reincarnation" synopsis to deal with if one adheres to the astral plane mentality. Could we die off in this world, pop through a "mole hole" into another world and kinda be in like that movie "Groundhog Day"? I mean, this is a plausible scenario. Afterall, the bible plainly states that satan was made into a reptilian form and was made to stay that way all his duration of time! Then with the ufo phenomenon, the ET's are said to be that of reptilian form. Now, with the occultic beings of today that are well known, the "astral plane" picture could not be as much a farce as some would like for it to be then, would it? It's documented by many psychiatrists, that there are many people who have seen police officers, priests, politicians, and other average folks "shape-shift" from reptilian to human form and vice-versa! Maybe David Icke is not sooo crazy afterall? Personally, I will have to lean towards the "astral plane" complex, simply because the "Kingdom of Heaven" is the highest level of that plane that can be accomplished. As far as the Rothschilds go, they are the "face" of the new world order, and who knows really what level of physics their ancestry habitates in. Time will tell!

The Rothschild's are Trolls...I mean this for real. Trolls don't control America...Elf's control America, and the world.

While Trolls may be excellent record keepers and fiduciaries...they hardly control anything other than the banks with which they have been trusted.

I know someone will dispute this, but have you ever seen one? Hunchbacked and misshapen...they lurch around the vaults of the world simply doing what they are told and NEVER divert from their course or appointed order.

Is this thread an attempt to focus negative energy toward the Rothschilds or something? Trolls don't scare easily!!

The Elf's protect the Troll bankers, remember that.

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Okay, if the elfs protect the trolls, who protects the elfs? The chain of command has to stop and begin somewehere. I know as well as you do that the illuminati has many tentacles, but somewhere along the line, there is a brain behind the brawn. And if we're indeed dealing with something or someone from the astral dimension, then they would use something far more conscientious than money to control their prey(us). Money is such an archaic way of establishing dominion for a species that should be further advanced in technology and intelligent design isn't it? I mean, if all it takes to control us is paper, then we as humans are not as intelligent as we would like to think we are. The human race has developed cold fusion, the a-bomb, nuclear bombs, many weapons of different calibers in firearms, hangernades, etc, and to believe that a force from another dimension can negate all of this with a mere piece of paper called "fiat currency"? To me, that's not a possibility. Has man gotten so complicated that mere "simplicity" will be his/her demise?

The Elf protects himself, they are naturally transcendant beings. the Elf is something like a Graviton, as far as life forms go. Ultimately everyone can call the Elf, Father. Because he is the Father.

They can walk around living their life and noone would detect the obvious differences between an Elf and lets say a Goblin or Dwarf. They live just like the rest of us, except aging very slowly, but their minds are in the clouds.

Our world, from a certain point of view, while it appears large to most, is actually small enough to fit inside a space the size of a shoebox or smaller.

A crafty Protector Elf would do something like this...He would find the four sources of humanity, put it in a box, put that box in a box, put that box in yet another box, and so on until he got bored. He'd then take the box and deposit it in the most inaccessible place, so noone could find it. After doing this he would know that nothing can harm the world without first finding the box the world has been deposited in.

Because the four sources of humanity are people, an elf would create something like a "legal identity" that represents the four sources. That way he could put the identity in the boxes instead of the actual people. This way the people can move about freely at the same time as being protected, as they would have an invisible shield around them that would keep out the murderers and thieves. The Elf owns the box and its contents and the contents generate what you call reality.

Your real enemy lies beyond the smooth surface we call reality, the Elf built the surface and keeps the surface. Everyone that is within the surface is protected by the Elf, even Troll bankers that may or may not be greedy to the point of criminal behavior, until it is determined by law that they cannot remain.

Thus, the thing two feet in front you all of you is a surface that was built and is being managed by an Elf. Since he controls the surface, he controls the world.

One day, after the murderers and thieves that found a way to snake through the other side of the surface into this world are removed, according to the law only, the Elf will release the contents of the box so that we can all see...The Real World; the one the Elf sees everyday, despite the War.

Anyone who doubts it.... The Elf is unarmed...take your weapons and use them against the Elf or his world and your doubt will relieved.


I think Timur was the meanest Elf known to history. Sometimes an Elf will end up somewhere it doesn't want to be and to teach the people that brought him there a lesson, he turns into their most memorable nightmare.

With regards to controlling people via money...when the four fundamental forces are under the physical and/or legal control of belligerent forces there exists natural resistance to this condition...the cosmos demands it, so the belligerent force is required to use whatever means to suppress resistance...Money has been effective.

The four forces were under the control of these belligerent forces from approximately 5/14/1988, the day before the Soviet Union withdrew from Afghanistan until 12/27/2006, 3 days before Saddam Hussein was executed in Baghdad.

Focusing on the international bankers ensures only one thing...you will fail to see what is really happening. The problem is more involved, but simple all at the same time. Quantum Mechanics has something to do with it.

Just a little something to toss around...I speculate that Gravity, Electromagnetism, Strong and Weak Nuclear Forces are related in the following manner:

Father, Mother, Two Daughters. Four people, Four Rivers of Eden.

[edit on 26-4-2009 by huckfinn]

international bankers mainly. they run the planet. question is, who do THEY work for. secret socieites start getting mixed up in these things at this top level w cia etc. and large corporations. Book : Rule by secrecy, by jim marrs is really good; so is william bramley: gods of eden. as many people as possible really need to read these books.

Actually no one runs the nation. Despite the centralized nature of the government power in this country is so decentralized that no one actually runs it... even at the level of the presidency the power is limited by congress the courts, public opinion and events like the current financial meltdown.

Power shifts easily here and its entirely based on who garners enough votes at any given level... for example in the late 80's and early 90's right wing funnymentalists discovered that next to no one voted in school board elections so they organized and came out in mass and in many locales got their people elected... who then tried to force threw THEIR agendas sparking backlashes and court battles all across the country.

It could actually be argued that the Supreme court is the final arbitrator of power in this country.

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All those you mention are the official, public face of government. The real power, so many times, lies behind these people or government bodies and is hidden from view for most of the time. You then have to take into account the powerful lobbying industry that pours $Billions into government and organisations each year to buy influence.

So, the idea that it's actually the people we get to vote for that really hold power becomes a bit of a joke. They are allowed to man the helm, and reap the benefits of all that it entails, as long as they do as they are told to do and do not step out of line.

The following families have great influence on the American system and partly other regions of the world:
Carnegies, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Dukes, Astors, Dorrances, Reynoldses, Stilimans, Bakers, Pynes, Cuilmans, Watsons, Tukes, Kleinworts, DuPonts, Warburgs, Phippses, Graces, Guggenheims, Milners, Drexels, Winthrops, Vanderbilts, Whitneys and the Harknesses.

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The only elves I know of were of mongolian dessent, and Timur came from persia. Now, if you're actually referring that elves are running this country, then we've got a "Lord of the Rings" dilemma here. One more elf comes to mind when you referred to electromagnetic shockwaves, and that is that the word ELF, is actually an abbreviation for "Extremely Low Frequency" electromagnetic weapons that are used in mind control via harmonics and pitch to humans that have been implanted with a microchip. This would make it very clear why the usa and russia are the only two countries with a H.A.A.R.P. system, and why that microchipping is now on the fast-track globally. But you have also introduced worm hole possibilities, along with quantum mechanics, that would pave the way for a biblical intervention of demonic origin to. Lucifer and his minions are well documented biblically as cherubs, the annuaki, the nephilum, the giborim, the anakim,the amalkim, and the rephraim. Those angels survived past the 4th captivity of Israel, and are alive and well even yet today. So, with movies like the lord of the rings trilogy, the chronicles of narnia, the da vinci code, and now the latest one angels and demons, could it be that all of these upper level entities are "intertwined" and conjointed? I mean, this isn't even thinking outside the box, it's thinking far beyond infinite comprehension! So, if an elf is controlling us like you say and has us in a shoebox, then how come we are always under a microscope per-say? If nobody else can see us but the elf, then it should be easy to indentify our controller wouldn't it? I'll buy into your astral dimension, for that paradox is fathomable due to its' alignment with a higher powerful being (God), but to say that an elf is micromanaging us, well, I'm gonna have to study on that one for a while longer.

Originally posted by thewind
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The only elves I know of were of mongolian dessent, and Timur came from persia. Now, if you're actually referring that elves are running this country, then we've got a "Lord of the Rings" dilemma here. One more elf comes to mind when you referred to electromagnetic shockwaves, and that is that the word ELF, is actually an abbreviation for "Extremely Low Frequency" electromagnetic weapons that are used in mind control via harmonics and pitch to humans that have been implanted with a microchip. This would make it very clear why the usa and russia are the only two countries with a H.A.A.R.P. system, and why that microchipping is now on the fast-track globally. But you have also introduced worm hole possibilities, along with quantum mechanics, that would pave the way for a biblical intervention of demonic origin to. Lucifer and his minions are well documented biblically as cherubs, the annuaki, the nephilum, the giborim, the anakim,the amalkim, and the rephraim. Those angels survived past the 4th captivity of Israel, and are alive and well even yet today. So, with movies like the lord of the rings trilogy, the chronicles of narnia, the da vinci code, and now the latest one angels and demons, could it be that all of these upper level entities are "intertwined" and conjointed? I mean, this isn't even thinking outside the box, it's thinking far beyond infinite comprehension! So, if an elf is controlling us like you say and has us in a shoebox, then how come we are always under a microscope per-say? If nobody else can see us but the elf, then it should be easy to indentify our controller wouldn't it? I'll buy into your astral dimension, for that paradox is fathomable due to its' alignment with a higher powerful being (God), but to say that an elf is micromanaging us, well, I'm gonna have to study on that one for a while longer.

Well it seems that we are on the same page...Timur was an Elf...an exceptionally powerful and violent Elf. He was also Mongolian; his mother was Mongolian and we are what are mother is. Timur only met his father once, so didn't know him well, but, Timur was also a son of Adam, via Japheth; according to his own geneology. I've seen his image and I assure you Timur wasn't a Persian, but there is a story with that.

Adam and Eve, fell and lost the world...the resulting world, the one we all know about, was made possible, after Adam and Eve's fall. The War is being fought to delay the inevitable...when the Elf who built it returns to take it away from the 5 people who stole it.

You should be happy to hear that this has already happened. Unfortunately, the 5 who stole the world don't have the good sense to know when to quit and they've made it so the war has lasted far longer than it had to. They lost 3 years ago, actually this very day could be considered the 3rd Anniversary of their defeat at Armageddon, but even though their army was destroyed they been able to hold out even this long; you should wish them congratulations, as they lasted in the ring with a real Killer for almost longer than anyone else.

That is why the Elf isn't letting any of them off the hook and plans to rip their souls apart...and he's decided to make the whole world watch. Have you seen what is happening in Sri Lanka? Learn from that...Parbakaran will be taken to Adam's peak naked and in chains where he will receive the help he so severly needs.

To keep my post on topic...I'll say this about Bankers...and Trolls. In the big picture whatever the situation bankers are needed. I haven't been able to contemplate how an advanced society based on Barter could work. Other have, but I don't see how that could be possible.

And since Bankers, thus Trolls and their deep vaults are needed, whether good or evil reins in the Earth, I don't think they would risk their lives for such a pipe dream as taking over the entire world. Their skill is at thriving in deep, dark places, keeping records and counting money. An Elf can cause the catatrophic destruction of entire cities and empty out continents with the twist of his wrist and doesn't lose a wink of sleep at night about it.

Its just not practical that a Banker would RISK it, they won't even give me a small business credit card with a truely generous credit limit. The idea that bankers control the world just doesn't hold up to the simplest scrutiny. Trolls don't have the skin for that. But it does make since that they hold wealth in trust for REAL power.

As you mentioned Lord of the Rings, wasn't the guy who built Mordor an Elf? I think so.

God is incomprehensable, the Elf is his Son.

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Okay, now that you and I are on the same playing field, let's get this ballgame rolling, shall we? First, let's address the bankers and their bosses and system. There is only a single type of elite, and they come from who knows where really, but the ones chosen to be their "frontman" has been the Rothschilds. Now don't go asking me why, for the only answer I can give you is that this family down through the centuries has been one of the most vicious and vile set of human beings on the planet in every way, shape and form! So, now that we know the rothschilds control the banking industry globally, let's discuss how and who it keeps rich and why. MOney creates power, power creates wealth, and wealth creates absolute power, and absolute power corrupts society as a whole! Most people look at oil companies, big major banks, the stock markets, precious metal and commodity markets, and global agriculture as the mainstayers of where the actual wealth is being placed, but it isn't. Remember, wealth is not created or earned, it's structured. This explains one reason why you couldn't get a business credit card even with your good credit. You were not structured within the realms that would return a great dividend to the elites' banking infrastructure.

Remember in Michael Moore's movie "Farenheit 9-11"? It stated that if saudia arabia pulled it's "moneies" outta wallstreet, america would collapse in less than 8 hours, or something like that. Okay, if that is the scenario, during the G-20 summit, why all the big whoop about how if the world allowed the usa to go under, the entire world would suffer? One nation, saudia arabia is propping us up, and if we piss them off, they can yank our livelyhood right out from under us with just one simple bank withdrawl? Get the big picture now? Stock markets are the biggest fronts of all! They get people to invest their paper money, but what the people are really investing is their sweat, blood and tears while the powerful elite use this same money, via the banks, to loan that same money you worked your ass off to make in the first place, back to YOU, but at a very comfortable interest rate of course! Then, when the big money changers have made enough money to secure their respective reserve currencies, depending upon which nation they are residing in, they crash the markets by liquidating all their fake assets by slowing down either trade or creating a fake national emergency of some sort that causes all the smaller investors to sell out before they lose all their gains. Good example is the housing crisis. American gov't leaders allowed the bankers to make those corrupt loans to people knowing that they'd never be repaid in the first place! People went into debt because they had good paying jobs, but when the jobs left via nafta, gatt, the free trade zone, so did the big paychecks!

Now, if it's the american people who are suffering due to no jobs, then why in the heck give banks trillions to waste? Who are the banks gonna loan any money to, not too many people working these days are they? But yet, the bankers got trillions, and the american people got that big ole "stimulus" check! We have, not counting the ilegal aliens, roughly 271 million working americans. Now how simple would it have been to just give all 271 million a check for say, $500,000.00 a piece? People wouldn't have lost their homes, cars, etc, and the banks would still have been getting their monthly payments, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Obama had to make sure he followed HIS orders from his handlers and give trillions to the global banking elite! So, like I said, I don't really know yet who's behind the Rothschilds yet, unless it's satan himself, but there is a much larger entity running the show, and the Rothschilds are at the helm. But to say who controls "america", it's a combination of three distinct entities, and they are: The Rothschilds, whoever the Rothschilds answer to, and a committee that is assigned by the Rothschilds to oversee the entire global economic system. Gotta remember one very important thing, money is only paper, it's real estate, power sources, and the masses of people that the elite want to own!